S2R 800 clutch damage

[mikeb]

Posting for a friend.

Long story short.....something backed out of the clutch/basket and got hung up in the case.  Locked the transmission.  Luckily he was at a stop light when it locked up.

Fixable....or need new case? 

Bike is 2005 S2R 800.

[Speeddog]

Any other damage?

What happened with the hub?

[mikeb]

Not sure on the other damage.  Haven't seen it yet.  He said springs are bent and there is some clutch related damage.  The case is the biggest issue though.  Dealer gave him an estimate of $8k to fix.  Which is crazy considering how much the bike cost brand new.

[corey]

$8k to fix is absolutely absurd, i don't care what it is. that's less than i paid for my complete bike...
what could possibly need replaced? At absolute worst it's an entire new gearbox and clutch assembly... $8k? no way.
Cheap? No way.. but not $8k...

[Dave328]

This is my bike. Thanks to Mikeb for posting. The clutch basket is pretty much toast, I'll post pics of it this evening. Main cause was the main nut backing off. Not sure how the clutch basket springs broke, but oh well. After talking with some people, I believe that it can be repaired. And that's exactly what I'm going to do. Worst case scenario, I need to replace the engine, which is what it needs right now.
Not entirely thrilled to have this type of failure on a 2006 bike with 3400 miles (yes, 34 hundred) and the response I got from Ducati, but that is another thread. I'm just thankful it let go when it did. I was 60 seconds from zipping along the interstate at 70! Priority is trying the repair and getting her running, before a terminal case of Lackus Ofus Ridingus Ducatiitis sets in!

Dave

[booger]

There are S2R800 engines available periodically, and I've also seen S2R1K engines for sale as well on eBay, there are parts bikes out there so good luck I hope you get her fixed and also hope that it doesn't happen to me on my '06 S2R800 with ~6k. Probably a freak occurrence but tragic to say the least.
check this out
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=20740.0

[DucHead]

That pic is too much of a zoom.  Is the damage to the case cover?  If so, they can be picked up on eBay for under $100.

[corey]

What on earth could cause this?
Wet clutch bike with 3400 miles... nothing in that area has probably ever been touched since that bike left the factory.
I call manufacturer defect/quality control issue on this one.

[Dave328]

Here is a wider shot:

And the back of the clutch basket, all but one of the springs are broken/missing:

And one final kick to the smalls , a little gift from the dealership when I picker her up:

So here she sits, buried in garage crap and boxed in my the lawnmower  :'(:

I'm going to try the repair this weekend. I just wish I could find an aftermarket supplier of a clutch basket. It sickens me to think DNA will get one more penny from me, even if it's for necessary parts.

What on earth could cause this?
Wet clutch bike with 3400 miles... nothing in that area has probably ever been touched since that bike left the factory.
I call manufacturer defect/quality control issue on this one.

That's exactly what I told the head Tech Cust Service Mgr of DNA. He said the clutch nuts loosening up is NOT happening as widespread as I have been told. Then he said, "sorry, you're out of warranty. Doesn't matter if there are only 3400 miles.Have a nice day" And for the record, and Mikeb can attest, these 3400 miles have been very very easy miles. (I ride like an old man! I'll even post my chicken strips to prove it!  )

[Speeddog]

I've heard of clutch basket spring failures on S2R800's, dunno how prevalent they are.

Check out our Marketplace, Parts for sale, you may find some help there.

I'd be worried about scrap inside the pocket of the trans bearing area, where it's cracked.

That shifter detent arm doesn't look so hot, but as long as it still pivots, and the spring isn't injured, it should be OK.

[EEL]

8k is probably the cost for a new motor, lazy bastards probably dont want to open er up to fix it.

[Dave328]

8k is probably the cost for a new motor, lazy bastards probably dont want to open er up to fix it.

No, $8K was parts/labor to tear down, replace both crankcase halves and replace every thing in the clutch housing. 

[EEL]

good lord...

[Speeddog]

No, $8K was parts/labor to tear down, replace both crankcase halves and replace every thing in the clutch housing. 

I just looked up on Ducati Omaha, OEM cases for an '04 800 engine are  ~$4k.
OEM clutch basket (which has the primary gears with it, matched gearset) is ~$750.
Plus other parts, plus sales tax....$5.5k-6k in parts *easy*.

Second-hand complete engine is a way cheaper way to go.

[pintsizejesus]

Here is a wider shot:

And the back of the clutch basket, all but one of the springs are broken/missing:

And one final kick to the smalls , a little gift from the dealership when I picker her up:

So here she sits, buried in garage crap and boxed in my the lawnmower  :'(:

I'm going to try the repair this weekend. I just wish I could find an aftermarket supplier of a clutch basket. It sickens me to think DNA will get one more penny from me, even if it's for necessary parts.


That's exactly what I told the head Tech Cust Service Mgr of DNA. He said the clutch nuts loosening up is NOT happening as widespread as I have been told. Then he said, "sorry, you're out of warranty. Doesn't matter if there are only 3400 miles.Have a nice day" And for the record, and Mikeb can attest, these 3400 miles have been very very easy miles. (I ride like an old man! I'll even post my chicken strips to prove it!  )

Also boxed in with your Ferrari, I'm having trouble finding sympathy.  Kidding, I also have an s2r800 so I don't want a problem like this.  I would keep on DNA to get it fixed and keep an eye out on ebay for motors etc.  Let us know how it goes.