Title: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: Bbrent on August 27, 2008, 07:16:46 PM Does anyone have experience with both of these seats? Is there a difference between them other than the price? Thanks
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: erkishhorde on August 28, 2008, 06:40:21 AM This was a big topic on TOB. I don't know a whole lot about Corbin since I don't have one but I have a Sargent.
Corbin: lower than stock comfier for passenger Sargent: higher than stock not as comfy for passenger seat cowl barely fits/doesn't fit (depends [roll]) large under seat storage [thumbsup] bungee hooks that are sorta functional... (I've had a bungee jump off them a few times) dishing of the seat pulls you away from the tank not my bike, but for reference corbin (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e70/erkishhorde/Bikewithcorbin.jpg) sargent (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e70/erkishhorde/Bikewithsargent.jpg) Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: djomlas on August 28, 2008, 09:08:46 AM this is corbin on my bike, very comfy
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2zxuuds.jpg) Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: eltristo on August 28, 2008, 09:40:35 AM Comfort-wise, they are both great seats and you will be happy either way. I decided on the Sarge cause it's a little taller, and the extra leg room was handy.
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: Duc Fever on August 28, 2008, 11:06:16 AM +1 on the Sarge for taller people, Either one beats the stocker though.
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: Ducnewby on August 28, 2008, 08:01:32 PM With the Sergeant and a 2up rider... Do your nads get squished as much or less than stock? I found that with the wife sitting behind me on the stocker seat, after about an hour, I need a pry bar to get my sack pried from the tank.
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: eltristo on August 28, 2008, 09:00:33 PM I really don't slide forward at all since installing the Sargent, but I never ride with a pillion. Apparently the Corbin has a better passenger perch.
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: pitbull on August 29, 2008, 11:56:34 AM The pics above of the cromo is actually my bike which has about 60k miles on it with about 20k each on the stock, corbin, and sargent and many 600-800 mile days on all the seats.
The corbin is the best for a pillion but still not great. To be honest I really hate the corbin, which I shouldn't admit to as I will probably try and sell it here. It's hard as a plank and...no....it doesn't break in....it stays hard. It also sits you lower than the sargent and is friggin' hell on the knees after about half an hour....and I'm only 5'9. FWIW I also bought a corbin for the triumph sprint I recently sold and I hated it on that bike too. The corbin is also much heavier than the sargent and has no storage space. It's really a friggin' brick. The sargent is fantastic for the rider, but completely useless for a pillion. In fact, when I contacted sargent about getting them to rebuild it with a better pillion perch, they replied that the pan is not strong enough for a pillion and their seats are not meant to be used 2-up. For single riding however, the sargent is much better than stock or corbin. One caveat however, if you're riding track days or canyon carving, you may not like how much higher the sargent sits you up. When riding twisties I prefer the feeling of sitting in the bike which I get with the stock seat or corbin. I lose that with the sargent as it feels more like I'm sitting up on the bike vs. in the bike, but for touring, it's the bees knees. Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: knightrider on August 29, 2008, 06:39:54 PM i have to agree with pitbull, i have the sargent and its great for commuting, but i cant stand it in the mountains. i wish the sargent could be modded to be a bit lower because it sits a little far off the frame compared to stock or the corbin, kinda ruins the look for me.
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: erkishhorde on August 29, 2008, 10:46:06 PM i have to agree with pitbull, i have the sargent and its great for commuting, but i cant stand it in the mountains. i wish the sargent could be modded to be a bit lower because it sits a little far off the frame compared to stock or the corbin, kinda ruins the look for me. I went this route and had them customize my Sargent. It was $$$ but I like my results. It's like a slightly taller stocker now but more comfortable. ;) I had them lower the front nose of the seat and extended the pillion portion since I'm a smaller guy and wanted the girl to be able to sit closer to me. Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: knightrider on August 30, 2008, 07:39:20 AM any pics? im thinking of getting mine customized a bit to shave some off the nose to lower it a bit. my biggest gripe is that you can see through the bike under the sargent, I wanna shave the rubbers under the seat to lower it down on the frame
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: erkishhorde on August 30, 2008, 09:11:49 PM (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e70/erkishhorde/sargfrontside.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e70/erkishhorde/sargsidehigh.jpg) These are the markups that I sent to Sargent. I don't have any close up shots of the results though. They shaved off the hump in the square at the nose and extended the pillion to the line in the back. Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: Darth Paul on September 01, 2008, 07:19:46 PM I'm thinking of getting either the Corbin or Sargent but can't decide.. I was pretty close to choosing corbin but now knowing that it ends up lowering the seat some I have some concerns.
I'm 6'1" and ride an '07 S2R. Can anyone comment on which of these seats would probably help/hurt me the most? I already sometimes feel like I wish my footpegs were about a half inch lower, so I imagine a lower seat probably wouldn't do me much good. Thoughts? Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: erkishhorde on September 01, 2008, 07:35:16 PM Yeah, I think the Sargent would help you. It's about an inch taller than a Corbin from what I hear and about 1/2" taller than stock.
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: tangueroHondo on September 01, 2008, 07:49:58 PM ...Sticky this thread? I've found it hella useful.
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: erkishhorde on September 02, 2008, 12:10:29 AM Random side thought. If one were looking for a lower seat or better pillion section but also wanted the added storage of the Sargent, the pan can be bought alone from Sargent and then sent to Corbin to mount their seat on. It's a bit pricier than buying either one alone but it's an option if you really like the Corbin but want storage.
Also, if you're short on cash, either company will refurbish your stocker if you send them your pan. It's cheaper than buying a new seat and reduces the number of extra bits you end up with. Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: pitbull on September 05, 2008, 06:51:17 AM I'm thinking of getting either the Corbin or Sargent but can't decide.. I was pretty close to choosing corbin but now knowing that it ends up lowering the seat some I have some concerns. I'm 6'1" and ride an '07 S2R. Can anyone comment on which of these seats would probably help/hurt me the most? I already sometimes feel like I wish my footpegs were about a half inch lower, so I imagine a lower seat probably wouldn't do me much good. Thoughts? I honestly think the corbin would be hell on your knees at 6'1, unless you have a very short inseam. I'm 5'9 with a 29" inseam and my knees are screaming after 45 minutes on the corbin. I've done as much as 14 hrs on the sargent (with breaks for gas and meal stops) and the knees never ache. Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: Bbrent on September 16, 2008, 07:53:53 PM Ok. I'm sold on the Sargent seat. Are there any rear cowl fitment issues with the sargent? I'm thinking of a CF cowl.
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: Spidey on September 16, 2008, 08:24:22 PM Ok. I'm sold on the Sargent seat. Are there any rear cowl fitment issues with the sargent? I'm thinking of a CF cowl. Depends what you mean by fitment. The seat cowl may not cover the seam where the passenger part of the seat meets the rider part. Here's an example. (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3038/2864763888_fcfa6099e1.jpg?v=0) I like the Sargent more than other aftermarket seats. My main gripe is that they have "hips." They force you to either scoot back and splay your legs or sit forward to prevent your hips from being splayed. This might be fine for taller riders, but it sucks for shorter riders (they're still way comfier than stock). The "hips" look like crap too. I had my shaved off so the seat is about the same width as the cowl. Then I had it recovered. Now I loooooove it. It looks better and is a million times more comfortable. Here's the "hips" on a stock Sargeant (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/2831408051_c43009e68c.jpg?v=0) Here's a pics with the "hips" shaved off. (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3291/2832244390_8a04e0c300.jpg?v=0) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/2832244318_0cf1c4ac49.jpg?v=0) Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: eltristo on September 16, 2008, 10:21:19 PM Yeah, it's definitely a stretch to fit the cowl over that seat. I tried it and decided i did not like, but I didn't consider a little custom seat-trimming [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: hypurone on September 17, 2008, 05:41:18 AM Ummm, might I suggest the DP Gel seat? [thumbsup] Awesome comfort for both pillion and rider. Accepts the cowl if you loosen the mounting brackets and readjust. It keeps my nads off the tank, is a tad lower and is easier to move around on than the stocker. [moto]
Just a thought... (http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/hypurone/Monster%20S4RS/S4RSwBSTs.jpg) There are other pics here as well: http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/hypurone/Monster%20S4RS/ (http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/hypurone/Monster%20S4RS/) Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: erkishhorde on September 17, 2008, 06:11:16 AM Doesn't that one get insanely hot after sitting in the sun?
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: hypurone on September 17, 2008, 08:19:44 AM Doesn't that one get insanely hot after sitting in the sun? It might, but I cover my seating area with a medium sized towel that I carry in my backpack, or my gloves and helemt if I'm not leaving the bike. Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: eltristo on September 17, 2008, 09:18:12 AM It does get hot without making arrangements (such as covering it), and does not offer the height advantage of the Sargent. I also didn't like that, with my butt in its usual position all the way back on the seat, i wasn't even on the gel pads any more. I ended up selling mine once I tried the sarge.
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: donzo on September 19, 2008, 09:56:47 AM I like a low ride better so just by reading everyone's comments I'd lean toward a Corbin seat. I was just checking out Corbin's website though and they have a note on their page that says the seat won't fit with a tail chop. The pics on their site all show the seat with the beer tray still on the bike. In the pics above, I notice the chopped tails. Did you guys have any problems with fit with/without chopped tail or seat cowl?
Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: Jimmy Ducati on September 19, 2008, 11:25:34 AM I just bought a used DP seat for my 696, but haven't received
it yet to add any input on it, but I did find a dollar store fix for mashed junk on the gas tank. I found a small beanbag, the kind with the glossy, stretchy fabric. It is about 5" x 4" x 2.5". I wedge that between my sack and the tank and BAM, no more nut mash. I also will wear a thin pair of mountain bike shorts if I know I will be out for a bit, and damn it works great, especially with the beanbag in place. I am hoping the DP seat works as well as my $3.00 bag. Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: eltristo on September 19, 2008, 11:39:11 AM I just bought a used DP seat for my 696, but haven't received it yet to add any input on it, but I did find a dollar store fix for mashed junk on the gas tank. I found a small beanbag, the kind with the glossy, stretchy fabric. It is about 5" x 4" x 2.5". I wedge that between my sack and the tank and BAM, no more nut mash. I also will wear a thin pair of mountain bike shorts if I know I will be out for a bit, and damn it works great, especially with the beanbag in place. I am hoping the DP seat works as well as my $3.00 bag. Spot on [thumbsup] Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: tangueroHondo on September 19, 2008, 12:22:15 PM Quote .. I wedge that between my sack and the tank and BAM, no more nut mash. I don't get it - Now your sack is mashing the bean bag sack which is mashing the tank. Guess I should just buy one and figure it out. The right underwear is critical - boxers = rolling forward and mashing your own nuts between you and the seat. Whatever is left over gets mashed against the tank. Maybe I need to put the bean bag in my shorts, UNDER my sack to prop it up and prevent a roll-over. [clap] Title: Re: Sargent or Corbin? Post by: Jimmy Ducati on September 19, 2008, 01:01:00 PM I don't get it - Now your sack is mashing the bean bag sack which is mashing the tank. Guess I should just buy one and figure it out. The right underwear is critical - boxers = rolling forward and mashing your own nuts between you and the seat. Whatever is left over gets mashed against the tank. Maybe I need to put the bean bag in my shorts, UNDER my sack to prop it up and prevent a roll-over. [clap] I actually move it around depending on my pants/underwear combo. The bean bag is very pliable so the pressure is minimal, certainly 85% less than not being there. Without getting too graphic, sometimes I go with bag between junk and the tank, but I have also found tucking it under the sack area works as well. I couldn't afford a seat for a while, neccessity is the mother of invention as they say. All I can say is it works for me. |