They have called for a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans by 8AM tomorrow morning. I have family (cousins, aunts, uncles, etc.) there, and they have all headed out already. I hope any DMF'ers who are there will stay safe.
My son is stationed at Keesler AFB in Mississippi, and while they haven't ordered a base evacuation, today they evacuated the aircraft out of there.
Yes, and fuel prices up here in Virginia have already jumped .10 in advance.
I know it's not anything approaching the hardship the people of New Orleans and the surrounding coastline are going through, and I hope the damned thing turns around and heads back out to sea, but it just pisse me off.
At least it looks like they learned from Katrina. I saw news that they've got a fleet of buses ready to help folks evac.
Guess tax payers get another mess to clean up.
Feel bad for the people that live there, but when are gonna learn?
Judy still has some family in Slidell.
One son up here visiting (good timing), but her daughter and other son, along with her dad are still down there.
Been a day of worrying and stressful phonecalls.
Quote from: SheMonster on August 30, 2008, 08:42:16 PM
I hope any DMF'ers who are there will stay safe.
a big +1 to that.
Quote from: Munch on August 30, 2008, 09:02:41 PM
Guess tax payers get another mess to clean up.
Feel bad for the people that live there, but when are gonna learn?
For a lot of people, it isn't a matter of learning. My cousin has a house that took about 4 feet of water during Katrina. Damaged, but not destroyed so he had no choice but to fix the damage. They cannot sell the house and they have a mortgage on it. If they could, they would move back to Chicago in a heartbeat (his job had relocated him there in 2002) but they can't just walk way from a $200,000 mortgage so are stuck there. They would have been better off if the house had been destroyed, then they could have walked away after Katrina.
Quote from: SheMonster on August 30, 2008, 08:42:16 PM
My son is stationed at Keesler AFB in Mississippi,
Jebus-you have a son old enough to be at an AFB? I thought you were like 25! :o
I am. He's 23. It was some kind of miracle or something ;D
Quote from: SheMonster on August 30, 2008, 09:40:36 PM
I am. He's 23. It was some kind of miracle or something ;D
Uh-huh. Act yer (venerable) age.
Hope he stays safe.
"Venerable"? Ouch. [cheeky]
He's fine, thanks for your concern. He had to stay on base until they got all the of planes out today, then he and his girlfriend (who is a student at Tulane) headed to Egland AFB in Florida this afternoon. They are staying there tonight and will reevaluate tomorrow. If they are still in the pathway, they will head to her dad's house in South Carolina.
my girlfriends parents just boarded up the house and plan on evacuating tomorrow.
I went to a 3 year aniversary of Katrina party last night and we had a moment of silence for Gustov. I really hope that nothing happens and that everyone is safe.
Let's all hope Gustav changes his mind.
I was talking to my roomate from college yesterday. He is in the Coast Guard, stationed in NOLA. He said they've been busy locking up and strapping everything down....then they'll be leaving this morning to get out of the city.
They're heading out of the flooding, but they'll still be in the hurricane path....ready to go back in as soon as it passes through town to start cleaning up. He used the line "picking up tree branches and bodies" [laugh]...guess the best way to deal with it is to have a little bit of a sense of humor about the situation. I actually think their first goal is to make sure the ports are opend back up ASAP.
Any of you guys who are down there. Stay Safe!!!!!
Some of my family left LA after Katrina, but most stayed. I have an aunt that lives in Gretna, but everyone else are above sea level. I do not know why they stay.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2654687/New-Orleans-mayor-orders-evacuation-as-Hurricane-Gustav-bears-down.html
Ray Nagin has warned residents: "You need to be concerned and you need to get your butts moving and out of New Orleans right now. This is the storm of the century.
"We want 100 per cent evacuation. If you decide to stay, you are on your own.
"This is the mother of all storms. This storm is so powerful and growing more powerful every day that I'm not sure we've seen anything like it."
Quote from: NAKID on August 31, 2008, 08:34:07 AM
Ray Nagin has warned residents: "You need to be concerned and you need to get your butts moving and out of New Orleans right now. This is the storm of the century.
"We want 100 per cent evacuation. If you decide to stay, you are on your own.
When Katrina hit a lot of the people said they "couldn't get out." I'm not going to argue whether or not that was true, but this time....they've given the citizens every available option to leave the city (buses, etc...).
If people are still staying....then this time....it's their problem.
BTW---the local news here had a story where they were interviewing a NOLA citizen and he was saying that the federal government had caused this storm to "finish off the city"
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
It's nature people....get over it.
If you live near the water, you are going to get wet.
Live video feed http://www.wwltv.com/video/?nvid=57429&live=yes (http://www.wwltv.com/video/?nvid=57429&live=yes)
www.wunderground.com
Yup -- they told us Friday when we left work to come back Tuesday w/ bags packed for two weeks.
Hopefully this thing will push further west and spare NOLA w/ the larger of the storm surge. But reguardless it is going to suck for somewhere here in a few hours.
And once this thing is done w/ it looks like Hanna is going to turn towards the Georgia coast...
your son will be fine at keesler... I'm staying in gulfport about a 1/4 mile from the beach not terribly worried.
sucks now because nearly every gas station down here is..... OUT of fuel. We have ~15 gallons of generator gas if it does take the hook to the east and follow the coastline like katrina did...
just an FYI folks, Katrina hit coastal MS dead on, not new orleans, the fishbowl just couldn't stay float with katrinas surge
Mother is helping with the evacuations and cleanup. Please keep him in your thoughts.
Awesome! Glad to see they are ahead of the curve this time. Good luck Jacob and God Speed...
Just wanted to give a shout out to my fellow NOLA peeps......and fellow DMF'ers with folks in the NOLA area. Just want to tell everyone to stay safe.
Wife and I had a trip to Pensacola planned for the holiday weekend. So we are just chillin at the beach. Given the tract of the storm we decided to stay a little longer and ride it out here. Closed up the house real good before we left on Friday. So all is well with us.
Just wanted to say hey and wish everyone of my fellow DMF'ers in the 504 well........
Later.
The s/o, me and the dog were just at the Human Race and bat festival in downtown Austin. We ran into a few groups of people who just evacuated from New Orleans.
That has to suck to just get up and leave all your house and all your valuables behind! Has anyone heard about any looting down there yet? :-\
Quote from: IZ on August 31, 2008, 07:59:56 PMHas anyone heard about any looting down there yet? :-\
Just give it alittle time. ;)
Quote from: IZ on August 31, 2008, 07:59:56 PM
The s/o, me and the dog were just at the Human Race and bat festival in downtown Austin.
WTF is that?
Quote from: NAKID on August 31, 2008, 08:06:04 PM
WTF is that?
Something that we'll never see clear pictures of.
It was in Austin. Soo probably some Artsy fartsy Hippe event.
Quote from: NAKID on August 31, 2008, 08:06:04 PM
WTF is that?
FU LETHE!! [cheeky]
Nike's Human Race being held all over the world. Only a few cities in the US having it and Austin is one of them.
Austin
Bogotá
Buenos Aires
Caracas
Chicago
Istanbul
London
Los Angeles
Lima
Madrid
Melbourne
Mexico City
Munich
New York
Paris
Quito
Rome
São Paulo
Seoul
Shanghai
Singapore
Taipei
Tokyo
Warsaw
Vancouver
http://www.runtex.com/web/2-2089.asp (http://www.runtex.com/web/2-2089.asp)
THe Bat Festival is on the Congress St. bridge where all the bats fly out of everynight to eat the bugs.
Austin, Texas has one of the world's largest bat colonies living in the heart of downtown â€" under the Congress Avenue Bridge. Every night during the summer months, millions of bats come out from under the bridge and fly off into the night. This spectacle is celebrated at the Austin Bat Festival, a two-day event held in the true spirit of south Austin. It features live music, bat viewing and education areas, good food and plenty of family-friendly fun.
They left out the tons of guana [puke]
Quote from: Munch on August 30, 2008, 09:02:41 PM
Guess tax payers get another mess to clean up.
Feel bad for the people that live there, but when are gonna learn?
we are going to learn when america finds a better place to drill oil AND refine oil. If everyone moved out of LA to waste less tax money, you'd probably pregnant dog about gas being $4 a gallon...wouldn't you? yep i bet you would.
LA was built around a prosperous oil industry that probably tops every single state in the US, except Alaska. Here is a little list as far as refineries go.
Refinery Location bbls/day
Calcasieu Refining Lake Charles 15,680
Calumet Lubricants Cotton Valley 9,500
Calumet Lubricants Princeton 9,500
Calument Lubricants Shreveport 35,000
Chalmette Refining, LLC Chalmette 188,000
Citgo Petroleum Lake Charles 440,000
ConocoPhillips Lake Charles 239,000
ConocoPhillips Belle Chasse 247,000
ExxonMobil Baton Rouge 501,000
Marathon Ashland Petroleum LLC Garyville 245,000
Motiva Enterprises, LLC Convent 236,000
Motiva Enterprises, LLC Norco 220,000
Murphy Oil Meraux 125,000
Placid Refining Co., LLC Port Allen 56,000
St. Rose Refining (Shell) St. Rose 55,000
Valero Energy Krotz Springs 83,100
Valero St. Charles Refinery Norco 186,000
that is..nearly two million, nine hundred thousand bbl/day
So in short, quitcherbithcin'
People stay because oil pays. Then there are always those people that like the whole culture thing in new orleans ???
Quote from: Munch on August 30, 2008, 09:02:41 PM
Guess tax payers get another mess to clean up.
Feel bad for the people that live there, but when are gonna learn?
Its kind of like all those crazy Californians that live near the areas that have forest fires, or where there are earthquakes... people don't complain about all of the money it costs to fight the fires or repair from earthquakes.
New Orleans is one of the oldest cities in the United States (almost 300 years old), there is something special about the place. Implying that people should just pack up and move seems pretty ingnorant.
I was planning on riding it out in Gretna (westbank NOLA), but relented under the constant badgering from wife/parents/sisterinlaw/etc. [roll] Ended up in NW Houston (copperfield, I think) staying in a friends empty house. Now it's a cat 2, so staying would have been easy and the drive unnecessary! >:( Oh well, time to [drink] [wine] [beer]
Quote from: Vindingo on August 31, 2008, 10:41:23 PM
Its kind of like all those crazy Californians that live near the areas that have forest fires, or where there are earthquakes... people don't complain about all of the money it costs to fight the fires or repair from earthquakes.
New Orleans is one of the oldest cities in the United States (almost 300 years old), there is something special about the place. Implying that people should just pack up and move seems pretty ingnorant.
I agree with you Vinnie. New Orleans may be in the path of hurricanes, but it's also one of the primary access points to the most cost effective North-South transport corridor in North America, the Mississippi River. It's got a rich multicultural history that is unique and should be preserved. Abandoning the area would cost more than protecting it from, and cleaning up after the occasional storm.
It's better to evacuate and not have needed to, than it is to not evacuate and have needed to.
+1 to Mother. [thumbsup]
We rode his Rat-bike yesterday while he was gone, and thought we broke it. 8)
Quote from: krolik on September 01, 2008, 10:01:47 AM
We rode his Rat-bike yesterday while he was gone, and thought we broke it. 8)
Was it ever fixed?!
Quote from: IZ on September 01, 2008, 11:23:34 AM
Was it ever fixed?!
Yup. I've been riding it for the past several days. Its dirty but running very smooth.
Quote from: matt922 on August 31, 2008, 02:14:21 PM
your son will be fine at keesler... I'm staying in gulfport about a 1/4 mile from the beach not terribly worried.
They did order a base evacuation at Keesler on Sunday, but he and his girlfriend had already headed out Saturday evening. They are fine and just having a little vacation in FL now staying at Eglund AFB near Pensacola, waiting for orders to go back. :)