Title: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: He Man on August 31, 2008, 07:12:17 PM Does anyone know if a 999 power commander or a S4R power commander's wire harness will plug into a 2v, specifically an S2R?
Not sure if there is a wiring difference between 2v and 4v. I know the PCIII unit itself works for both, as long as you load the proper map. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: Monstermash on September 01, 2008, 07:44:08 AM I'm pretty sure the connectors are the same. Just keep in mind the main difference is the length of the harness. Each model of the PCIII for the different bikes are designed to mount in different locations on the bike.
For example the S2R model is designed to mount behind the left side panel and the harness is long enough to reach where as the model for the M1000 i.e. mounts under the fuel tank on top of the battery. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: uclabiker06 on September 01, 2008, 10:26:53 AM Quote For example the S2R model is designed to mount behind the left side panel FYI the best place place to install PCIII on an S2R is between the front/bottom of the air filter behind the steering tube. Although instructions say to put it under the side panel I found that it didn't quite fit on the S2R (2006 model). But if you install it there you have to earth it in the mounting bolt for the horn. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: DarkStaR on September 01, 2008, 10:30:39 AM FYI the best place place to install PCIII on an S2R is between the front/bottom of the air filter behind the steering tube. Although instructions say to put it under the side panel I found that it didn't quite fit on the S2R (2006 model). But if you install it there you have to earth it in the mounting bolt for the horn. I don't agree. Best place is under the seat. Hidden, but easy to get to when needed. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: 25KV on September 01, 2008, 10:32:31 AM I dont mean to hi-jack, but which model power commander fits/works best on an '08 S2R 1000???
Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: NAKID on September 01, 2008, 10:39:52 AM I don't agree. Best place is under the seat. Hidden, but easy to get to when needed. Mine fits just fine under the tank on top of the battery, just like it did on my 800... Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: DarkStaR on September 01, 2008, 10:52:45 AM FYI the best place place to install PCIII on an S2R is between the front/bottom of the air filter behind the steering tube. Although instructions say to put it under the side panel I found that it didn't quite fit on the S2R (2006 model). But if you install it there you have to earth it in the mounting bolt for the horn. Mine fits just fine under the tank on top of the battery, just like it did on my 800... Not you NAKID. Under the tank is fine. It seems uclabiker06 put his where it could be seen. Not my style. The PC3 looks cheap in plain view. Mine... (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/hundredpercentkill/Motorcycles/DSC00001.jpg) Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: He Man on September 01, 2008, 10:55:45 AM you can see a lot of things on my bike. the DS1000 leaves little place to hide things in the front. It doenst matter if its too short, ill just snip the wires and extend them.
The main thing is, i need to know if an S4R wire harness will physically plug into an S2R1000 and work if i load my own map. I plan on putting it underneath my seat, the area underneath the tank is already taken up by 2 ballasts. Hell if all power commanders are alike and the Aprilia Tuono is anything like a ducati.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=022&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=350092558983&rd=1#MainBikePic cheapie! Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: Monstermash on September 01, 2008, 11:41:07 AM I'm not sure the Aprilia has the same connections or if the signal from the TPS is the same. In which case it wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: uclabiker06 on September 01, 2008, 01:24:18 PM Quote It seems uclabiker06 put his where it could be seen. Not my style. The PC3 looks cheap in plain view. Mine... You can barely see it unless you really look for it. Besides you had to fabricate a bracket. Anyways, for my bike under the side panel and under the gas tank worked out pretty horribly compared to where I put mine (and you put yours). Quote Hell if all power commanders are alike and the Aprilia Tuono is anything like a ducati.. I've always wondered if there was any difference besides the mounting hardware/wiring between PCIIIs for different bikes. Try calling Dynojets customer service if nobody knows. The 1-800 number should be on the website. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: Capo on September 01, 2008, 03:15:30 PM You can allways cut and splice the wires
Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: DarkStaR on September 01, 2008, 04:37:17 PM You can allways cut and splice the wires not "IF" the tps is calibrated to give off a different signal (volts) at a given throttle %. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: He Man on September 01, 2008, 05:01:27 PM not "IF" the tps is calibrated to give off a different signal (volts) at a given throttle %. ???? so what if it does, thats why you have a PCM to deal with it. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: DarkStaR on September 01, 2008, 05:46:49 PM Thit is all hypothetical, and only applies if the TPS from different bikes send signals differently:
A given V will not equal your given throttle %. a +/- in fuel at a specific RPM will be applied at the wrong time. Not a big deal if you go for a custom map, but tuning may get a bit confusing. Canned maps will not work. But in the end, I have no clue what I'm talking about, I base this on absolutely nothing, and I might be blowing this out of my ass. That's just how it works in my head. Please, correct me if I'm wrong. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: He Man on September 01, 2008, 05:54:42 PM Canned maps will not work, and tuning gets a bit confusing. Which is why I just load the proper map....... Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: DarkStaR on September 01, 2008, 06:08:07 PM Which is why I just load the proper map....... I hope it works. Keep us updated. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: Capo on September 02, 2008, 02:21:38 AM My PC was boxed for a 999, the connectors to the injectors were wrong, cut and spliced, fired up first time, no TPS issues.
Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: moto4us.com on September 02, 2008, 05:32:09 AM My PC was boxed for a 999, the connectors to the injectors were wrong, cut and spliced, fired up first time, no TPS issues. you are saying that your S2R is running good with a 999 PC?! Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: Capo on September 02, 2008, 08:52:09 AM My S4R the shop that fitted it is one of the top Ducati race shops in the UK, they just re-programmed it. They have the ways and means.
Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: He Man on September 02, 2008, 01:18:55 PM Oh, thats not very special i thought you ment this..
My PC was boxed for a 999, the connectors to the injectors were wrong, cut and spliced, fired up first time, no TPS issues. you started the bike with a 999 map... My S4R the shop that fitted it is one of the top Ducati race shops in the UK, they just re-programmed it. They have the ways and means. in reality, you just spliced wires for your bike and loaded the correct map, which is basically what im doing, minus the splicing wire parts cause i have the right connectors already. Just goes to show, the PCIII unit is the same for all bikes, just different connectors. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: Capo on September 02, 2008, 03:28:11 PM Exactly, however I no longer have it fitted, went bad over a winter layup, removed it and running on the DP ECU, noticed no difference.
But Nemesis is coming soon. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: NAKID on September 02, 2008, 03:36:44 PM How did the PCIII go bad over the winter?
Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: Capo on September 03, 2008, 03:09:07 AM Don't know, would not start when I got the bike out. Had a track day booked for the following day, process of elimination pointed to the PC, though it would 'self check' during power up and respond to throttle input but there was no output to the injectors.
Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: He Man on September 03, 2008, 07:33:55 AM maybe it lost its map? did you try reloading the map onto it? or pluging it into the computer?
Mine just shipped out today, chances are,ill get the PCIII before i get my bike back even though the bike got the head start a month ago. Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: NAKID on September 03, 2008, 12:47:22 PM If it lost it's map, the bike should run as if nothing is there. The map would just zero out and not add or subtract any fuel...
Title: Re: Power Commander Wire Harness Post by: patroldawg on February 20, 2009, 08:57:12 PM Don't know, would not start when I got the bike out. Had a track day booked for the following day, process of elimination pointed to the PC, though it would 'self check' during power up and respond to throttle input but there was no output to the injectors. I know this is an older thread, but i thought I'd add... I had the very similar situation happen back in 2003 on an R6, when PCIII's were first coming on line. after pulling the R6 out of winter garage status the bike did start, but the engine would cut out suddenly on the highway at around 5000 rpms. this happened several times, very dangerous, and almost caused serious accidents on all occasions. scared the sh*t out of me. took out the power commander, and everything was fine back to normal. those incidents caused me to never trust a power commander for street use ever again. I don't think dynojet ever recommended for street use anyway, but nonetheless... |