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Title: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: livefastdiefun99 on September 22, 2008, 09:54:20 AM
Just wondering if anyone with a 696 has had this issue.  I took my bike to the dealer last week, because I noticed it smelled like gas while riding it.  I then found out it was leaking gas but couldn't see where, so I decided to take it to the dealer.  They gave me a call back and said that it was my gas tank leaking, and that somehow it had been warped by heat.   They are supposedly having one sent from Italy that should be here in 3 days.  Not really worried about it since it is a warranty issue, but just wondering if anyone had a problem similar to this. Dealer said it was the first one he saw.  It's been so nice out I just want to ride though!


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: MikeZ on September 22, 2008, 10:01:53 AM
3 days from Italy?  Let us know how that goes.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: desmodan on September 22, 2008, 10:53:41 AM
3 days from Italy?  Let us know how that goes.

No kidding, that seems very optimistic. 

I've been able to smell gas a time or two on my 696, but rarely, and only on startup... Never enough to be concerned.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: ducisurg on September 22, 2008, 10:59:28 AM

I have about 700 miles on my 696.

Have not noticed any gas smell. How hot is your engine running?


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: desmodan on September 22, 2008, 11:07:42 AM
Mine runs at 3-4 bars.  I've never seen five.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: lazarus7 on September 22, 2008, 11:13:55 AM
zero issues here, or any others i know of.....


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: cyrus buelton on September 22, 2008, 12:57:40 PM
3 days from Italy?  Let us know how that goes.


 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: r_ciao on September 22, 2008, 01:39:38 PM
1000+ miles on my M696, up to 5 bars on the temp gauge.  NEVER any gas smell.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: rosstermyer on September 22, 2008, 02:02:35 PM
1500 miles on my 696 here.  she has been known to see 6 bars on a couple instances in traffic, but usually stays pegged around 3-4 bars.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: BomberHead on September 22, 2008, 03:46:10 PM
1700 on the 696 and no gas smell. however im starting to lose that "New Bike Smell" i wonder if i can get that odure and spray it inside my helmet so i can feel as if my bike will always stay new.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: gearhead on September 22, 2008, 05:23:09 PM
 I waited 3 weeks and they still never got me a part for my new bike. The dealer finally gave up and took one out of a bike on the showroom floor. My speedo back lighting quit on me a month ago and I'm still waiting for a new one. Ducati absolutely blows in the customer service aspect. Can't say much good about reliability either. Funny thing though is I still love the bike.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: PizzaMonster on September 22, 2008, 06:46:46 PM
3 bars..4 bars..6 bars.  What's with that shit?  I thought temperature was measured in degrees.

Oh yeah.  It's a 696.  No real guages..just that digital video game shit.  It's not a real bike.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: zLoki on September 22, 2008, 07:17:45 PM
3 bars..4 bars..6 bars.  What's with that shit?  I thought temperature was measured in degrees.

Oh yeah.  It's a 696.  No real guages..just that digital video game shit.  It's not a real bike.

No real vacuum tubes, just that fancy transistor stuff?  You're not using a real computer.  ;D


1200 miles, occasional gas smell when parked but nothing to complain about, 3 days from Italy, do post if you get it, might want to switch dealers, no matter where they are located.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: Louv on September 22, 2008, 07:40:43 PM
No real vacuum tubes, just that fancy transistor stuff?  You're not using a real computer.  ;D
...

Real Computers didn't have no fancy TUBES.  Just gears and levers and things.  Real men calculated projectile trajectories on them.  Or something.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: ducpainter on September 22, 2008, 07:47:07 PM
3 bars..4 bars..6 bars.  What's with that shit?  I thought temperature was measured in degrees.

Oh yeah.  It's a 696.  No real guages..just that digital video game shit.  It's not a real bike.
c'mon dude....

My 96 didn't have any real gauges besides a speedometer.

give 'the ron' act a rest.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: rosstermyer on September 22, 2008, 08:06:34 PM
3 bars..4 bars..6 bars.  What's with that shit?  I thought temperature was measured in degrees.

Oh yeah.  It's a 696.  No real guages..just that digital video game shit.  It's not a real bike.

i guess all superbike and moto GP bikes dont have real gauges either huh....try embracing advances and new technology for the monster line instead of getting upset by it.   [beer] 


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: booger on September 22, 2008, 08:26:00 PM
Meanwhile back at the ranch, my S2R 800 Dark's tank had the exact same problem. Running a finger around the fuel pump flange one could notice dips in the mating surface between the bolts. I don't know if I'm so quick to blame heat however. I think it's just a factory defect. An Acerbis factory defect. Tank also had the weird cellulite surface finish on the knee indents. So something funny went on with the plastic. Perhaps not annealed properly after rotomolding??? Just a guess. Got a new tank, garage doesn't smell like gas anymore. Dark's not a Dark anymore either.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: PizzaMonster on September 22, 2008, 08:29:07 PM
give 'the ron' act a rest.


Heh heh... [cheeky]   Where is my hero these days anyways?


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: Rameses on September 22, 2008, 08:49:40 PM
3 bars..4 bars..6 bars.  What's with that shit?  I thought temperature was measured in degrees.

Oh yeah.  It's a 696.  No real guages..just that digital video game shit.  It's not a real bike.


My Hyper also has "just that digital video game shit."

And it has a readout in degrees.

Sorry to ruin your fun.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: livefastdiefun99 on September 24, 2008, 07:41:02 AM
Quote
Quote from: MikeZ on September 22, 2008, 12:01:53 PM
3 days from Italy?  Let us know how that goes.

Update:
     Initially dropped my bike off last Friday, the 19th.  Dealer called me yesterday (Tuesday the 23rd) telling me my bike is ready to be picked up.  that's a total of 5 days, with Ducati shipping the tank from Italy and the dealer replacing it. The dealer isn't open on Sundays or Mondays either.  Not bad.  Maybe some of you guys should go to my dealer. ;)  It's Motorcycle Center (MCC) in Villa Park, IL, in case you were wondering.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: MikeZ on September 24, 2008, 07:44:45 AM
Holy SHIT!
That has got to be a speed record for a Ducati repair.
Glad to hear it went so well.
Now if they were a little closer (717 miles from me) I'd start using them and buying from them.



Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: Rameses on September 24, 2008, 07:57:00 AM
Wow, that's outstanding!

Any chance they're looking to buy a dealership in Raleigh, NC?

There're a couple here that could use a little positive influence.   [roll]


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: nkryptit on September 24, 2008, 08:55:41 AM
4K miles on my 696....No problems like that...Can't imagine they would use a gas tank that could warp because of heat...seeing as though they placed it right over the engine.  Is this the first time they've used this plastic fuel cell rather than a real honest to god tank?


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: VDG696 on January 24, 2010, 04:23:00 AM
Hi my 696 was leaking gas,and it was a seal on the base of the tank they told me. They ordered a new tank because you can't replace the seal. I'm not so upset because it's late January,and not the first day of spring. [bang] [bang]


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: 1KDS on January 24, 2010, 05:20:17 AM
Maybe the seal was leaking because the surfaces are warped like the op's bike.
Welcome to the board [thumbsup]


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: Raux on January 24, 2010, 10:07:05 AM
was your tank attached with two or three bolts?


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: Bill in OKC on January 24, 2010, 10:34:31 AM
I've read some are finding out that ethanol is the culprit on the nylon tanks.  Could this be the problem here too?  When the e10 separates, the ethanol settles to the bottom and causes *problems*  I'd think that winter time would be when it would show up - when the bike/fuel sets for some time?


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: Triple J on January 24, 2010, 10:53:59 AM
Aren't the new tanks HDPE?


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: Porsche Monkey on January 25, 2010, 04:16:46 PM
Ducati is teh suck when it comes to building fuel tanks.     :-\


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: ducatiz on January 25, 2010, 04:23:21 PM
Wait, your gas tank WARPED due to HEAT?

That smells like bullshit to me.

Have you seen the "plastic tank problem" sticky in this section?

Plenty of plastic gas tanks exhibiting problems, first I've heard of a 696 "warping".

File a NHTSA report.  That is serious shit.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: Travman on January 26, 2010, 04:18:36 AM
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25074.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25074.0)

For everyone's sake I hope this isn't the same kind of wide spread problem it was for the plastic tanked Monsters and Sport Classics.  It will be the same problem if they used the same material.  Does anyone know if it is the same material?


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: Raux on January 26, 2010, 08:14:54 AM
i think it really needs to be asked and checked on these bikes people are saying are cracking/warping if they are using 3 mounting screws or 2. the manual clearly says use only 2 and some dealers and riders were added the 3rd. the 3rd not being used allows for some chassis and tank flex without cracking the tanks. fixing the 3rd with a bolt and any flex will put stress on it.


Title: Re: 696 gas tank problem
Post by: junior varsity on January 27, 2010, 10:30:59 AM
"Italy" according to the dealer, must be what the refer to the parts warehouse out back. Bullshit they got parts that fast.


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