:o (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4804007.ece)
Quote from: Ducatiloo on September 22, 2008, 02:04:37 PM
:o (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4804007.ece)
That's unpleasant.
In a pleasing way [evil]
I take it we have to be using firefox to see this?
[roll]
Quote from: Mother on September 22, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
I take it we have to be using firefox to see this?
[roll]
The link doesn't work? I'm using IE 6.0 at work.
Quote from: Mother on September 22, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
I take it we have to be using firefox to see this?
[roll]
Nope, you just have to click on the smiley. Quasi-hidden link.
marshmallows
That is really really odd. Even after reading through it a couple of times (kinda poorly written and hard to follow) I'm still having a hard time developing a mental image of it. I'm a pretty mellow guy so I have a really hard time trying to get a grasp on these kinds of temper incidents (barring medical conditions, such as bi-polar). Unfortunate.
My fav. part was when she was telling people to get the F**K away, as they tried to get her out of the car.
Not great that she killed herself but better then her killing someone else. Darwinism at it best
Quote from: DCXCV on September 22, 2008, 02:44:37 PM
Nope, you just have to click on the smiley. Quasi-hidden link.
nothing
you guys are playin tricks on me
One less crazy woman.
How long before the turn that into a test on Top Gear [laugh]
Quote from: Mother on September 22, 2008, 03:03:02 PM
nothing
you guys are playin tricks on me
here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4804007.ece
better?
Quote from: JBubble on September 22, 2008, 03:09:23 PM
here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4804007.ece
better?
You made it too easy on Mother, Now I can't go in and randomly remove the link [evil]
Well now thats seeing something through till the end. Im picturing a car with fire spewing off the spinning tires engulfing the car and someone giving you the finger out the window till their dead. Man thats commitment. Way to give 100% [thumbsup]
Quote from: Ducatiloo on September 22, 2008, 03:11:57 PM
You made it too easy on Mother, Now I can't go in and randomly remove the link [evil]
someones gotta look after the poor little guy. [thumbsup]
A: she was a woman of size
B: air bags look like big marshmallows when deployed
C: she was angry because she thought the people wanted to take her tasty treat away from her
D: marshmallows are better toasted
Quote from: bobspapa on September 22, 2008, 03:20:55 PM
A: she was a woman of size
B: air bags look like big marshmallows when deployed
C: she was angry because she thought the people wanted to take her [clap]tasty treat away from her
D: marshmallows are better toasted
[clap]
Ma'am yer car is on fire! Get out!
... yaaaaaa- go f*&k yerself!
That's what they ought to put on the outside of her urn.
Quote from: c_rex on September 22, 2008, 04:08:26 PM
Ma'am yer car is on fire! Get out!
... yaaaaaa- go f*&k yerself!
That's what they ought to put on the outside of her urn.
in the urn.... whats car parts, and whats people parts?
:o
the fact that they didn't forcefully pull that woman out of the car is the really make the beast with two backsed up part
"oh she swore at me and raised her fists, so I let her burn to death"
what a make the beast with two backsing coward
Quote from: Mother on September 22, 2008, 04:18:47 PM
:o
the fact that they didn't forcefully pull that woman out of the car is the really make the beast with two backsed up part
"oh she swore at me and raised her fists, so I let her burn to death"
what a make the beast with two backsing coward
ever try to take a smore away from a fat chick?
make the beast with two backs that
Quote from: bobspapa on September 22, 2008, 04:22:03 PM
ever try to take a smore away from a fat chick?
make the beast with two backs that
I know it's wrong but [laugh]
If she wanted to burn that bad....let her burn.
one less crazy, angry person in this world. they tried, she got pissed at them....screw her
sit back and watch the show
really
you people would watch a person burn to death?
maybe some don't need saving
wow
Quote from: Mother on September 22, 2008, 04:42:55 PM
really
you people would watch a person burn to death?
After a person rammed another car and kept going until she caught on fire? I was going to say yes I would, but to be honest I would have broken the window and pulled her out by her hair. If she tried to scratch or bite me, I'm not sure what I would have done.
Quote from: Mother on September 22, 2008, 04:46:24 PM
wow
Not everyone can be big damn heros. If she told me to make the beast with two backs off I'd prolly give it one more go but I'm not gonna risk my life doing it. Especially after she attacked another person. :-\
Not that I'm defending road rage, but the article did say that the lady suffers from bipolar disease. She was likely off her rocker when she did this and that's why she didn't try to save herself.
Quote from: erkishhorde on September 22, 2008, 05:48:41 PM
Not that I'm defending road rage, but the article did say that the lady suffers suffered from bipolar disease. She was likely off her rocker when she did this and that's why she didn't try to save herself.
;)
seriously though,... thats kind of make the beast with two backsed up. even though i think that everyone has a right to kill themselves if thats whats gonna make them happy.
You know it would be the luck of the poor sap that pulled her out to get sued for millions of dollars.
No good deed goes unpunished! <--- This proves itself day after day!
Dana
Quote from: Mother on September 22, 2008, 04:42:55 PM
really
you people would watch a person burn to death?
I guess I should clarify. I fully agree with twhat they did do.
they didn't just sit there and watch her burn....they were trying to put the fire out, since she wouldn't get out of the car.
I agree with their course of action. I don't see anything wrong with what they did.
make the beast with two backs that. I had a friend that was bi-polar and when she went ballistic she wans't herself at all.
This lady probably wasn't herself either. Open the door, punch her good and hard and drag her ass out.
She'll thank you the next day when she's herself again.
Servere bi-polar is really hard to treat. You have to get the meds just right and with really severe cases they kill themselves more often
than not before you can get the meds correct to prevent the super highs and lows.
Isn't that forcefully removing her from the car and could be charged assault?
Quote from: VisceralReaction on September 23, 2008, 10:51:11 AM
make the beast with two backs that. I had a friend that was bi-polar and when she went ballistic she wans't herself at all.
This lady probably wasn't herself either. Open the door, punch her good and hard and drag her ass out.
She'll thank you the next day when she's herself again.
Servere bi-polar is really hard to treat. You have to get the meds just right and with really severe cases they kill themselves more often
than not before you can get the meds correct to prevent the super highs and lows.
Doesn't it seem unfortunate that someone that unstable can get a driving license?
Quote from: msincredible on September 23, 2008, 10:59:59 AM
Doesn't it seem unfortunate that someone that unstable can get a driving license?
yup.... she should have stayed home
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=11766.0
Quote from: msincredible on September 23, 2008, 10:59:59 AM
Doesn't it seem unfortunate that someone that unstable can get a driving license?
Seems odd, too.
Most crazy women ride bicycles.
Quote from: someguy on September 23, 2008, 11:18:57 AM
Seems odd, too.
Most crazy women ride bicycles.
In my case it's cause I have a flammable boyfriend. [cheeky]
Quote from: Pakhan on September 23, 2008, 10:59:17 AM
Isn't that forcefully removing her from the car and could be charged assault?
Yeah so charge me with assault, I didn't have to watch her burn :)
Quote from: VisceralReaction on September 23, 2008, 11:25:13 AM
Yeah so charge me with assault, I didn't have to watch her burn :)
to each their own, I would let her burn. I think the guy that tried to help did right.
Quote from: Pakhan on September 23, 2008, 11:36:27 AM
to each their own, I would let her burn. I think the guy that tried to help did right.
Oh i'm not faulting them or you of course.
Just saying what I would have done.
Quote from: VisceralReaction on September 23, 2008, 10:51:11 AM
make the beast with two backs that. I had a friend that was bi-polar and when she went ballistic she wans't herself at all.
This lady probably wasn't herself either. Open the door, punch her good and hard and drag her ass out.
She'll thank you the next day when she's herself again.
Servere bi-polar is really hard to treat. You have to get the meds just right and with really severe cases they kill themselves more often
than not before you can get the meds correct to prevent the super highs and lows.
The people there had no way to know she was bi-polar. They tried to get her out of the car, and when that wasn't working they tried to put out the fire. They did what they could but I don't blame them for not putting their own lives at risk.
Quote from: Kyna on September 23, 2008, 01:46:45 PM
I don't blame them for not putting their own lives at risk.
That is what seperates the people labeled as heros from the general populace.
Putting your own life at risk to save someone you don't know.
Quoteigniting the brake fluid and setting the car on fire.
WHATT BRAKE FLUIDS FLAMMABLE????
shit! im moving that stuff.
Quote from: Kyna on September 23, 2008, 01:46:45 PM
The people there had no way to know she was bi-polar. They tried to get her out of the car, and when that wasn't working they tried to put out the fire. They did what they could but I don't blame them for not putting their own lives at risk.
She made her own decision on to stay. I would have tried to put the fire out and tried not to look at her. You cant save people who don't want to be saved, you can only show them the door, so to speak.
Not being able to know whether a suicidal person is in their right mind or not aside, I believe in letting the person off themself if they choose as long s they're not endangering anyone else. My first priority would have been the lady whose car got rammed in the first place.
It's kind a cold way to think about it but at least she (and those around her) won't have to suffer with it after it pushes her over the edge and she offs herself. That bipolar stuff is real nasty in its worst states.
that is THE BEST story i have read all day.
a road rager kills themselves because they got so mad they wanted to keep going and killed themselves. GOOD, AT LEAST SHE DIDN'T KILL OR INJURE ANYONE ELSE.
ALL ROAD RAGERS should follow this person's lead and kill themselves and not injure anyone else when they get road rage. It will make the world a HAPPIER, PEACEFUL AND SAFER.
[clap] ;D [moto] [drink]
But the problem is: Bi-polar people when in their manic state; either high or low dont' know what they want.
As I stated before, my friend was a different person completely, but when medicated regreted crap they did while manic.
They may want to die while manic, but while completely sane it's another story.
Quote from: sbrguy on September 23, 2008, 03:51:15 PM
ALL ROAD RAGERS should follow this person's lead and kill themselves and not injure anyone else when they get road rage. It will make the world a HAPPIER, PEACEFUL AND SAFER.
That would be a Good Bumper Sticker [thumbsup]
Quote from: VisceralReaction on September 23, 2008, 04:03:34 PM
But the problem is: Bi-polar people when in their manic state; either high or low dont' know what they want.
As I stated before, my friend was a different person completely, but when medicated regreted crap they did while manic.
They may want to die while manic, but while completely sane it's another story.
Does your friend go around injuring others?
No, never did. But you have to understand how out of balance bi-polar people are.
AND the varying degrees of severity of being bi-polar.
Mental issues suck. When people are off their meds they are freaking nuts and what's
scary is that when they take their meds they KNOW they are nuts.
And theres the problem. They have to stay on their meds. Just like a diabetic has to take meds to prevent a diabetic episode (which can make them act like angry drunks), bipolar people have to take their meds. Personal responsibility has to come in to play.
Wow... not sure where to go with this debate... still trying to decide what I would have done in that situation... we can all say what we would think we would do... but when it comes to real action... you never know.
Quote from: JBubble on September 24, 2008, 10:47:55 AM
And theres the problem. They have to stay on their meds. Just like a diabetic has to take meds to prevent a diabetic episode (which can make them act like angry drunks), bipolar people have to take their meds. Personal responsibility has to come in to play.
My ex-husband is diabetic (type I), and used to have a lot of hypoglycemic episodes. It was so bad that after he ended up in the ER a couple of times, his doctor contacted the DMV to inform them (didn't matter at the time because he was using an out-of-state license [roll]). Thankfully he got an insulin pump and is under much better control now.
I would hope that psychiatrists do the same for unstable patients. :-\
Quote from: bobspapa on September 22, 2008, 04:17:04 PM
in the urn.... whats car parts, and whats people parts?
good one [clap]
Quote from: JBubble on September 24, 2008, 10:47:55 AM
And theres the problem. They have to stay on their meds. Just like a diabetic has to take meds to prevent a diabetic episode (which can make them act like angry drunks), bipolar people have to take their meds. Personal responsibility has to come in to play.
I think that's a great point....but just to keep it interesting, what about the hundreds of thousands of people across the nation that suffer from equally/more challenging mood disorders who cannot not afford to spend $300+ on meds a month. I heard an interesting conversation(some random radio talk hour) from a father describing his son's mood disorder and it's effects on their unit. He stated a statistic that something like 70% of homeless suffer from some sort of debilitating mood disorder, no money no meds no stability, they get arrested for whatever, and are spat back out in 24-72 hours on a routine basis. His point was, there is little being done to help this cross section, the situation is just festering yeah...so anyway
What a sight that must have been... A crazy fat lady going bezerk while being engulfed in flames.
Reminds me of the time I was playing texas hold-em with friends. I was down to my last few chips and was dealt a 2 and a 4.. absolutely worth nothing, but kept calling and raising the pot. Even after the river and the flop. Why you ask? Cause I got sick of the game and wanted to go out with a bang. Sure, it was against all semblance of self-preservation... but I just didn't care.
Quote from: cbartlett419 on September 24, 2008, 03:15:56 PM
I think that's a great point....but just to keep it interesting, what about the hundreds of thousands of people across the nation that suffer from equally/more challenging mood disorders who cannot not afford to spend $300+ on meds a month. I heard an interesting conversation(some random radio talk hour) from a father describing his son's mood disorder and it's effects on their unit. He stated a statistic that something like 70% of homeless suffer from some sort of debilitating mood disorder, no money no meds no stability, they get arrested for whatever, and are spat back out in 24-72 hours on a routine basis. His point was, there is little being done to help this cross section, the situation is just festering yeah...so anyway
I do think thats an interesting thing to think about but it might throw us into politics and/or the sad state of health care in this country. So I'm not gonna touch it other than saying that every single person needs to take personal responsibility and make a concerted effort. I'm so tired of the whining and yes I have FHE with the bipolar topic.
But like I said, interesting topic.
right right right right right, never did I intend to taint this wonderful place by being 'that guy', one thought just led to the next. thanks for the intervention [coffee].......