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Love to know people's opinion...as a show in it's own right.....vs. the english edition?

I'm not sure what to think.

In it's own right it wasn't a bad show ... but ... it's still a copy ... and it's just ... wrong  :-\

Excellent production values, fast paced, good editing.
I know Warren Brown and that's pretty much him.
The other two are okay, I'm sure Charlie is playing a bit of a "wanker" character.
I think the Top Gear track needs to be upgraded it looks pretty cheapo.
I'm going to a taping next Tuesday 7th, so I'll let you know what the studio experience is like. 

Didn't mind it, good to see some local cars compared.
 instead of the euro types.

I heard somwhere the test track is at Camden airport.


Rob

For sure it's Camden, look at the wide open spaces in the shots.
I am going to Bankstown Airport for filing though.

Yeah, Warren stood out, he's a natural, not so sure about the old guy.

I felt it was a bit cheesy in places, trying abiyt too hard to be the same, an aussies Stig is just wrong.

Interesting you mention the production values Matty, I said to the Boss I reckon that will be its undoing - would have thought the production costs might get a bit high for their little market. The presenters aren't as slick and polished as the poms so I reckon people will find it hard to adjust ... it was these things which drew in 'non-motoring' people to the pommy version. If you look back at some of the originals, the aussie version is a mix of the old and new.

At least I  may have a chance of recognising some of the 'stars' which is often hard for an uncultured coastie with the pommy version.

The track seemed a bit tight for Aussie Stig, he (assuming it is a he) seems slow on screen but is shown to be working pretty hard - I reckon the track is a tough one.

an aussie stig?
give me a break!!! i may be old and cynical but can anyone come up with a new idea these days?

paul.

To sum it up,

Same show different hosts.


Oh and cars (some of them anyway!)


Who would pay a mill for that Maybach? :o


Rob

the shark was the best out of the whole show .... the rest sucked

they were right about the Maybach - what a joke!

wish they showed a back end shot of the Lamborghini too. A rear end is very important.

I could use that Lotus as a powered roller skate for my foot. It's THAT small.

A real pale , lame and overacted imitation of the original.  ???  :-[ Shitful.

What about the Proton Satria as the bog standard car? I would have thought a car most people had actually heard of would have been an idea ... perhaps a Corolla, most Aussies could relate first hand to that.

Didn't mind the 'what were they thinking segment' ... but they stuffed up with the Lightburn Zeta. I'd love to have the the Sport (which they showed) at one stage I had a weird obsession with the Runabout. The Runabout has the same, as fast forward as it is in reverse, feature but is powered by a monstrous 324cc engine (as opposed to 500 in the Sport) in a far less aerodynamic body ... a body which even Harold Lightburn himself would struggle to love.

I was wondering if someone would post about the show (ta spider). [thumbsup]

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IT WAS REALLY I'm mean REALLY SHIT.

nuff said!

P.S the show was shit

I am going to hold judgment TGAu. I don't like it's chances though, like Betty said they will need to spend a lot of money to keep a relatively small market watching.  

The thing that pisses me off is that now they don't seem to show the UK Top Gear anymore.  [bang] Oh well, back to the internetz for TV.

i thought it was pretty shite.
jokes seemed forced and unfunny.
the track looks short and lame.
stig looks like a slouching neanderthal. in fact, they shoulda just had him wear a different coloured suit.
and overall they really should've stopped chasing after the style of the uk show and come up with something more distinctly aussie.
eg. not that i'm a v8 meat-head, but wouldn't it have made sense to start the series with a ford/holden comparo?

Yep, big pair of shoes to fill, seemed a bit lame and "try hard"
I like warren Brown though, I remember he was pretty good in that Peking to Paris show.
It does take a long time to establish a rapport like the poms have done, so will give it a chance
but given the limited market and the obvious expensive production costs, I can see it sinking like those cross channel
amphibious cars.

I with you craigo and brimo, part of the show were lame and forced, some of the scripted jokes were total cringe.

Have you seen some of the reruns of the original.... they are exactly the same. They even changed out a presenter.

I think the shows got a chance.... I'd like to think so at least.

I thought the soft roader trial was OK for a start and they're lined up the V8 Ford vs Holden battle for the day after Bathurst. Probably should have aired that this week come to think of it.

I was supprised that the set looked identical and was disappointed about the track.

I liked Warrens moke - shark segment but I reckon Steve Pizzati is the weakest link.

Lot's of good points.
Had a long chat with a friend after the show last night.
We decided there was too much in the first Ep.
The Maybach had such a huge intro and build-up and the segment was shorter than the build-up.
The Mini Moke shark cage was funny but said nothing about the car, no history, no place in motoring history. Nothing just a Hmmm wonder if I can do something silly.
As I said before, aside from knowing Warren and what you saw was him, the other seemed to be over acting as stated.

They could have lost the Maybach, all the extra hot laps and cut Vince Colosimo a little (bit boring)
It would have left more time for the Soft roader story and introducing us to the TG track.
We had no idea where the plain white Stig was going, there is a corner called Clarkson! but who knows which one it is.

There is 8 Ep's in the first series and I know Warren is doing another Peking/Paris type journey at the end of the year.
All that being said, the very first series of TG-UK before James May came along was pretty average also.

Judgment not yet fully passed.
Lastly I have to say it shite's all over "The Car Show" with Glenn Ridge.  

I have to say, I enjoyed parts of it, but most of the time it just seemed forced, they were trying to hard to be funny and silly.
I like the pommie show, but why copy it?
Do we need the set to look the same?
Do we need to have a dick in a racing suit called the Stig? Try a different name guys.
To copy cat for my taste, yes I know they are trying to replicate the success of the UK based show, but when you bring something over here from the UK, I would suggest tweak more for the Australian market.

Seen 1 episode, I'll try a couple more, but to me the original is better.

yep

IT WAS SHIT  ;D

+1 on ALL of the above comments, I too wish we could watch the UK one as well, why have they stopped it? 'cause it would take away from the AUS one? there is no comparison..........................the older guys voice is sooooooooooo annoying, they seemed to jump from one segment to another, and you did not know what was going on half the time. I agree also on the Maybach a 1mill car and we got him sitting in the back saying how many buttons there were, and then showed us a gigantic set of ear phones that came out of the Arc? BLAH BLAH BLAH I could keep going but I won't It's  SHIT...............BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL..........PLEASE  ;D

After watching so many of the UK shows I didn't really feel comfortable watching the aussie take on it. Somehow doing the same things with different presenters just doesn't cut it.

I think they need to develop their own style which they might do over the first series. I suppose it is a franchise so they are probably stuck with a certain formula to follow.

Judgment is reserved at this stage.

Shit

If you look past the fact that they did not intend to be like the UK presenters - the show was actually OK.
It would be interesting to see how the huge BBC budget actually influences the types of cars on the show compared to the OZ variant.

You only have to watch some old season UK episodes to realise that they were not really that crash hot compared to what's on now.

I'm not much of a V8 person - but I hope next weeks Holden v Ford challenge lives up to expectation

Brief, concise and above all accurate!!  ;D   You gotta stop beating around the bush Wraith. ;) [clap]

Im not sure what to make of it, I didn't like it at first , but maybe it will grow on me. need to see more shows and see how it goes

we don't know the politics involved and what decisions they got to make but...

remix the title track....that way it starts of different, but a little familiar...not so 'British' a bit funkier and dirtier.

then - the set HAS to be different - having an identical set with 3 guys that mirror the ages of the UK presenters and then saying "we're not trying to copy" is straight up idiotic....it sets the whole thing up as a facsimile, so don't blame viewers for making comparisons (and losing when you've got 1/5 the budget!).

However SBS was well and truly bent over a barrel, if they didn't pay for the franchise then they would have lost there number one show and channel nine would have come in bought the franchise and destroyed them....so really if we're pregnant doging about why we don't have the UK version - I'd suspect we have no one to blame but the BBC for forcing this upon us!

I do suspect that if the local flops that the BBC will do a good will gesture and let SBS have the UK version - 'oh, sorry for having you spend 3 million on a show that only attracted 250,000 viewers for half the season!' sort of thing.

Just a further note to budget etc....
The TV company doing it Freehand TV is 40% owned by the BBC so I think budget is pretty okay for now.
But they are not going to keep piling $$$ into something that isn't attracting the same viewer base.

I have a mate working on post production for the show matty, if you meet her when you go to see the taping say gday from me, her names anna.

So let me get this right, we have lost the pommie version altogether?

We won't even get it off-season? That is, show the Aussie version for its season run then revert to the orginal to maintain interest ... or are they worried one will show up the other?

Shit I hope that's note right. I'd definitely rather be watching the Pommie version.

Oh well time to unrap the plastic off my TG video set! :-\

You can't be serious!
They copy every other aspect of the show, and then your telling me the 3 cocks they had out front were not trying to copy the UK presenters? Bollocks! 

I call Shenanigans!

Rubbish - bring back the original.

Enough said.

Geez, look what I missed all day yesterday while I was sitting in a classroom doing a boring Diploma in Business Mgmt.  [bang] [bang] [bang]


Anyway, if I had of been in front of a compoota yesterday, my thoughts would have been:

1. Shit!
2. Presenters were trying too hard to be like there UK compatriots.
3. Presenters were trying to act like old mates but they had only just known each other for a couple of weeks.
4. Shit!
5. Maybach! Gimme a break.  [roll] Who'd buy a poncey f*cken re-badged Mercedes! Wankers with too much money, that's who!
6. Soft C*CK roaders! That's all they are, that's all they will ever be. Soccer Mum wagon for taking Felix & Felicity to a garden tea party! F*CK OFF!  [bang]
7. Shit!
8. I want to see a real comparison, get some clapped out cars, say a Valiant Charger, Holden Torana/Kingswood, Ford Falcon and a Leyland P76 (if you can find one) and go bush or drive them to Cape York and drive them till they do or don't break. Mini Moke with a shark cage on it, I don't know what that was supposed to mean, "You can put a cage on a turd and the shark still won't eat it"
9. Shit!
10. "The Stig" how about "the Yob" or "The Bogan"
11. Proton Satria? As was said before, I'm sure they could have used a more popular car. Does anyone even buy Satria's?  [roll]
12. Track. Boring as BAT SH*T! We need the "Hammerhead!"
13. Vince Colosimo. "Oh, I won a trophy!" F*CK OFF!  >:(
14. Shit!
15. SHIT!
16. SHIT!

That is all.  ;)

it,s about cars................who cares............ ??? ???

It's just not "all about cars"

Alot of people who watch the UK program don't know sh*t about cars, but they like the actual show, which for me, is how it is actually presented and hosted.

And don't tell me that some of the cars they have on the show aren't sh*t hot!

o.k  i,ll tell u , they are not shit hot........................

Opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one.  ;)

Is it time for a little vent Toe Jam? ;D

*cough* (http://www.mininova.org/sub/224/seeds)

Got to agree with Super TIB - try hard copy that is just not as good at the original.

It is a shame that they have copied the format so exactly but don't have a Jeremy - Without Jeremy the original would be shit too!

Clarkson is really the personality behind the show and to make it any good you need him - not going to happen.

I will watch again to see it it gets any better bit if not then back to WebTV to watch the BBC version....

CRICKEY!!

              OK so they did a half arsed job of the original, but go back and have a look at some of the early footage of the original show and I think that most of you will make the same comments that you have said about the Aussie one.
Yeah remove the 'stig' and put the aussie version the 'yob' in instead. I'm gunna give it a little time to develop, see what happens, and then make my mind up. They need more cameras on their test track so you know where you are, hopefully they will slick it up some.
I'll let you all in on a little secret of mine.
I've often thought of this type of show since about 1999, some clever aussie characters, and put them on bikes, old ones, new ones, small and big, some crazy trips, and some clever tips and having a bunch of fun along the way. But I know nothing about that sort of game, its just a dream.




                                                Mmick

And with their tongues firmly wedged in the cheeks. Some are more shit than hot?? ;D [thumbsup]

And I agree Super, its entertainment value with the UK show and not just as a car show per se. ;) ;D

Mmick, we're dreaming about the same thing. It's been on my mind for the last 12 months.

so a bike show....that doesn't pretend that everyone is a overweight, unwashed, tassel-bound Harley-riding chrome-addict???

revolutionary, I like it!

 :)

Weren't those guys from bikeme working on something like that? I thought it was gonna be a regular DVD. Haven't seen one yet.

Back on topic, episode 2. I'm still not warming to it. The big fault with last nights show was the lack of intro to the cars in the Holden/Ford comparo.
They should take some time to introduce the cars, who makes it, what are they, how much etc. I like to learn something from shows like this, not just watch idiots burn rubber. I can look out the window and see that. In the end they didn't end up with an opinion about which one came out on top. Say what you like about Clarkson but at least he has an opinion and isn't afraid to offend anyone.

Bring back the UK version.

Sound like a great idea mate! [thumbsup]

And you would make a great host with that little bit of Aussie humor you possess.

My take on it though is that the greater majority of viewers are educated enough to know how much each one would cost.
Be it Ford or Holden, they know how much power blah blah blah, what you wanna see is people driving them.
Be it creating smoke as Clarkson does at every opportunity.
To attract a wider audience the show has to a car show about people and personalities, not a show about cars.
That's why TG-UK and it's personalities have attracted so many people as an audience, both male and female.

After seeing a taping yesterday, I am going to give it a good go to see how it develops after all we are just 2 eps in.
There is a lot more to come I think in the development of the show and the characters who host it.
Just my view

I agree with Matty. I am going to give them a go as it has only been 2 episodes. Compared to that other crap (The Car Show) which is just a big Shannons ad, this show is streets ahead.

I must admit I do love Top Gear UK but with this we at least see some local cars.

kind of a side step....

the shannons ad that is on the show....with the Ducati owner...

am I the only one here who has to impersonate that guy when someone asks what bike they ride?

"so exciting, and like all duks it has no redline on the tacho, you shift by feel, the insurance SHANNNNNNONS."

seriously, between him and Tom Cruise it's a public relations nightmare!

OHHHHHHH so glad that ad drives someone else nuts. all my mates do that everytime they are near my bike. "SHIFT BY FEEEEEEEEEEL" as they sexually caress my bike up and down with greasy fingers... urgh. stupid ad.

and then I found this while reading another forum, even netriders are laughing at us
http://www.netrider.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=58113 (http://www.netrider.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=58113)

I don't think they're laughing at us, just at the ad. As Ducati owners, we tend to cringe at it. Is there a smiley for cringing?

ooh no i can't find one

i worried now (http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_4_169.gif)

what, queen of the smilies stumped, no  [bang]

top gear episode two: some of those jokes were so bad they made my neck spasm with the cringe.

anyone know what the ratings are like for it?

Didn't hear what the 2nd week ratings were like.
But I was talking to Warren and the screen writer at the taping of Ep3 on Tuesday.
They are listening I think and adjusting things as they go along. 

This might help ease the pain for the diehard fan.........

http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=TOPGEAR09&searchId=131e1f01-4493-42a0-b3e0-8466b1d382f0 (http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=TOPGEAR09&searchId=131e1f01-4493-42a0-b3e0-8466b1d382f0)

Didn't see the last ep so I can't comment.

The ratings did drop massively from the first week to this week.

I will give it one more go but they do need to improve.

How many episodes in the first series? Is it six or twelve?

Well i saw the second show last night and i think it is growing on me, not as good as the original but no too bad

There's 8 Ep's in the season.

& where is it filmed again?

I mean the warehouse set thingy?

Bankstown Airport is the set.
Camden Airport is the track.

Next weeks guest is fantastic, the filming was done in one take total professional and funny as  [laugh] [laugh]

well it's on again now, and i lasted a total of 2mins. what absolute crap!!! the format isn't theirs to bastardise, they should come up with something original or can it. it's corny and unoriginal, next they'll have canned laughter ferchrissakes


paul.

Hate to use the same things twice, your right Loony [thumbsup]

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yep thats the last show ill watch id rather talk on here at least i get real laugh here  [bang]

I made it about 10 minutes before ringing someone for a chat....and the bloke at the end of 1800-hot-boys wasn't a fan of the show either!  :o

that BMW is going to be popular around these parts - 2.7 tonne of status symbol that will crush any other car and you won't die no matter how badly you drive. Perfect for Toorak!

Arrr the Toorak Tractor sticks again.

spider spider spider see what i mean , your one funny dude  [clap] [clap] [laugh] [thumbsup]

A tiny improvement. Some would say a "poofteenth?"  ;)

But still doesn't do it for me. The only character who has anything going for him is Warren. The other two  [bang] [bang] [bang]

And for F*CK SAKE, what is it with this show and soft cock 4 wheel drives! Who in their right mind is going to buy a BMW that looks like Bertie Beetle?

My prediction, Top Gear Australia is doomed. It's all over after this run of episodes. Unless they change drastically and get rid of two of the three hosts.

 >:(

I'd like to see the auditions to find out who didn't make the cut, but any suggestions on who could do a better job? Somone who know's his subject, a great interviewer, bit of a raconteur.
Wait....I've got it.....hmmmm....I wonder what Daryl Eastlake is doing these days.

Timmy or Jimmy from South Park could do a better job.  ;)

I'll do it for half the money.  [laugh]
And bring some two wheeled action in also.
Let's start a petition.

Vote Matty onto to Top Gear.

1. yes
2.

Go matty

The small bloke (aka the 'Richard Hammond'), bloody hell he looks small behind the wheel, looks like he was driving his dad's car when in the merc....but how come when Hammond drives he looks normal? does ours sit to forward?

and the segues into the studie when Warren starts to talk about the review....very awkward.

good news.....ah......Oasis's new album is out and it's pretty good. (trying to be positive about something!)

And Peter Wherrett.................   .....................   ............................  OK so I'm showing my age ................ how sad  :-[

Well at least thats the two replacements (I actually missed last nights show)





                                                        Mmick

yeah matty, I'll back you!

you didnt miss much how about cole elliot  or kevin bloody wilson  and rodeny rude  and matty our mate too do the format

Surely you don't think I was serious about daryl bloody eastlake, do me a favour,but seiously peter wherret, yep his show "torque" was probably about the best home grown car show we've ever had, (ABC of course).
How about wayne gardiner, knows his stuff, got personality, but SBS probably couldn't afford him.

Peter Wherret looked good in a dress.  ;)

Now, this would be interesting, Merrick Watts.  ;)

Loves his cars, owns a Multistrada, piss funny.  [thumbsup]

That I like the sound of.. Comedians who know their cars and bikes, who can talk about/review things funnily.

Not people who have media experience, and only think they're funny.

Yeah, I'm still giving it a go, but its starting to hurt.

Beats American sit com crap, and any reality show, but thats not saying much. If you look at the early series of the UK show, it took a while to settle in, and the line up did change. Even the first series with the current three guys (Clarkson, Hammond and May) was pretty average.

Agree with the need to sort out the line up of the Aussie show and get some genuinely funny B'stards into the mix. Merrick is a great idea.

Wherret was only ever good for 'drag' racing and bolting mag wheels onto Sigmas. There, I said it. Someone had to. ;D

And Matty, you've got my vote too.

I think that W427 Holden is a bit of a wimp!
375 Keelowatts (in Steve speak) and $150k
All it can manage is 250klm/h on the oval.

Hell my little 620 is pushing 200+ at the Creek, and it's nowhere near $150k's worth of kit.

Gotta say though that lawn bowls caper was pretty funny, not quite as good or as much carnage as Toyota Igo football.
But still pretty sporting of Holden to allow many of there cars to be treated with little respect.

I know ! my 992 gets 230kph.....ah, um...well...that's what this bloke who ah....takes it on private roads....ah...yeah, when he dropped it off he said he got it to that....me, I got it to 62 kph once but realised what I'd done!

Yeah, a 'mate' of mine has a 620 sport that will do 210 km/h pretty easily ;). Having a fairing to tuck behind helps in top speed [thumbsup] umm...allegedly....

reaching that speed on a 620 you'd be talking some nice long open stretch of road right?

when i had my stock M620, max i *cough* heard *cough* i could get was around 180kph?

Piece of crap taxi with a big V8 in it.  [cheeky]


I think Holden are starting to see this show as a good marketing tool.  ???

Anyway, it wasn't bad last night. Charlie still gives me the shits, he can't interview to save his life.  [roll]

Yeah totally agree, the Jack Thompson bit bored me to tears cause he just didn't know what to do or say.
I think it's his hand gestures, he doesn't seem to know what to do with them, so they are always flapping about like a bird trying to take flight!

I was embarrassed watching that, was not good at all.  :-\

I thought Jack Thomson had spent too much time in the green room ... [drink]
Normally he's a bit more articulate than that.

 [laugh] [laugh]

Yeah, I thought that too.  [wine]

yeah, 3rd that, he seemed a bit 'stunned'. Bloody legend of an actor though.

what about the lawn bowls and GPS vs tracker?

Not so sure about the GPS story.
But yeah I did like the Lawn Bowls story did like the sense of humor behind it.

992. under 20k twwwwwoooooooofffooooouuuurrrrrtttttyyyyykkkkkkkkkks 

so I have been told by a so called friend on a private road out back of nowhere! [roll]


Rob

The GPS story was shit. I've worked in the Kimberleys and there's so much you could do. We used to hire landcruzers in the wet season and turn them into submerines trying to cross rivers etc. We'd race them up hills so rocky and steep that you'd couldn't believe how far they go. We discovered along the way that 'hired' cruzers always went further, harder and longer than the ones someone owned! I think this was because you'd return it in a couple of days and just say you got stuck in the mud or something like that. [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

The country is so unbelievably ruggered up there that they should have been doing real offroad testing not comparing a guided horse with a GPS. What about rounding up cattle with choppers and vechiles with bull catchers on them. The producers had a shocker thinking that'd make a good storey. What in the world was that trying to prove.

I believe the W427 is electronically limited to 250 ... probably conveniently, I don't know how much quicker it would go - considering the way the antenna was bouncing around the thing might start to come apart.

Betty will only do 110km/h tops, might explain why I can't keep up with you people on your high powered 620s.

The bowling was really hard for me to watch - something about doing thousands of dollars damage to (brand new) nothing little cars for a couple of laughs makes me feel a bit uneasy. The problem is there was no real skill shown in what they were doing ... at least with the football version the guys were actually driving.

The guests are proving pretty hit and miss - I think Julia had the right idea ... don't let Charlie speak. Colosimo must be spewin' big time about his piss poor effort in the car.

Minor threadjack continues.....
Yes ptooey, umm, theoretically, a long flat straight about 2km long, with really good visibility. Quite close to where I live, actually. As I said, I think the fairing on the sport and the crouch-down-making-my-wrists-hurt-all-the-bloody-time riding position help. Allegedly....threadjack ends  :)

hey gang, sorry to chime in sooo late.

but you know... opinion everyone's got one! and me too.

TGAu.. what can I say is that it reminds me very much of early Top Gear and I mean well before hammond/may too.
So i guess its such a copy that they even started similarly. I just wish they have hotter chicks in the audience. - Chris

What do you expect? :-[ It is filmed in Bankstown! ;D

Rob

Be very careful with what you say. i came from Bankstown.

I can only assume that ducmonrob is hoping to see you in the audience then??  [cheeky]

yeah, but you LEFT BANKSTOWN, he's saying that because of you and other women LIKE you...that there aren't any good looking girls in Bankstown.

 ;D

would port kembla be a better option?  [cheeky]

They could fill the set with prostitutes.  [laugh]

That'd cost too much even at PK prices!

Thank you Spider my point is the demagraphic has changed alot over the years!


Now that would definately add a little colour to the show! [thumbsup]

pitty the hookers down there havn't checked their use by date lately. :o

Rob

My support is waining, totally bored with Charlie driving in circles in the R8.
And Steve with his grouse little BMW.... That's grouse, your grouse, I'm grouse.
I know it's a very Melbourne/Vic slang but could he lay off the "grouse" a little.

no mate, Vic's haven't used it in YEARS! I thought he picked it up from one of your gay bars up there!

isn't a grouse some type of game bird like a pheasant ?

correct!

(taste like chicken)  :)

(kidding, tastes like pigeon, had it in Canada...you name the animal in Canada and I've eaten it, reindeer? what sick bastard eats reindeer......Spider does!)

Have you had Guinnie Fowl in Canada?
My Father-in-law raises them.

Sorry for insulting Vic's then "grouse" should be banned...

big bird actually, I was thinking in was going to be between a spatchcook (tiny, don't bother, only foodie wankers cook them) and a small bird....it was quite big (not turkey) but sizable. Elk, antalope, horse & donkey in Italy, moose, all that stuff!

back on topic.....

is it the presenters delivery of humour that needs to be worked on....

or do they need a new scriptwriter?

They've lost me, I've had enough.

That is just one big pile of crap.

Ended up watching Border Security.

Charlie & Pizza boy just do not work IMO.

I think it's the fact that there is a script writer.
There seems to be not enough scope for them to inject themselves into the script.
I know from being there, the audience is poked and prodded into clapping and cheering going into and out of breaks.
And at the average jokes.
If they just left them run with things a little.....

Canned laughfter goes here  [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Applause goes here  [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]

TV audience is going here  [bang] [bang] [bang]

I think they need to loose the script writters altogether! let it flow mang, letitflowww......
Let it come a little more natural, not so Victorian try-hard! (jokes on the last one)... maybe they do need to hang in some gay bar?! HA! ;D
Honestly the show has potentail but maybe they need to stop copying the UK so much and allow the presenters to be themselves a little more and the script a little less... - Chris

ps, I should be the stig though...

syd, I also think you should be the stig,  hhmmm you in white leather

hmm... the suits are a nomex/poly blend so leather for me. Sorry Jul's. Besides, I don't need the poser looks. Ill let my steering do the talkin...! yeeha! - Chris

Ahh but new Stig will be testing bikes too.

You will need full leather kit to demonstrate that a modified 2 valve monster is quicker around the top gear test track than a D16RR

ahh... :P hmm ??? ???
I've dug myself into a hole now. So to quote a great man,...
"no, dig up stupid!" - Chris

so chris where is the leathers for me to see :o

Missed it (again) but it does'nt sound like I'm missing much.

OK, let me be 'The fat Stig'  and ride the wheels off some shitbox and then give it two thumbs up  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]






                                             Mmick [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

Geez, it's not improving is it.  :-\


Luckily, I had a fix of UK Top Gear on Foxtel yesterday evening.  [thumbsup]

They were comparing the Vauxhall "Monaro" against the Chrysler 300C. That wasn't enough so they flew in a Jaguar 'S' Type in a RAF Hercules onto the beach where they were testing.  :D

If you don't know, guess which car won the test?  ;)

Im actually not minding TGA... its a little try-hard. But what were we expecting. Ever seen an episode of "the car show"... come back and tell me which one is worse. - Chris

I do agree Chris, compared to The Car Show it's streets (pun intended) ahead!
Lets think of it this way, it's been mixed and still in the oven being cooked.

Yeh i also agree its a little better,I actuly watched the whole show this time arround with out shaking my head to many times [laugh]

and to be truthful..last week's episode was the ONLY television I watched for the week....so that must mean something. For the past 2 weeks I've made it through the episodes too, so that is something!

So the Aussie slaughter is over for season 1.
Next week the fun will resume as normal.

Clarkson, Hammond and May will be back in the latest series from the UK.

I will always support a local, but sometimes imported is best.

Actually just watched it for the first time...  :-\

MMmmmmmmm best I say no more........  :P

Bring back Top Gear.....  ;D

Looking forward to it

I didn't see it last night, completely forgot about it.  [thumbsup]

Goes to show how much I liked it.  [roll]

And bring on teh real "Top Gear"!!!!!!!!!1!1!11!1!   :D

UK version is back on, I had a good laugh! how is the supercars racing on a gallon of fuel!

It's a much better show than the OZ version

yes yes yes love the Uk top gear, got the laughing back into me