Title: Track days and motion sickness Post by: Cucciolo on October 04, 2008, 06:25:56 PM track veterans and noobs alike.. did you ever get motion sickness after your first few morning sessions? Today was my second day ever at the same track and the second time that I get motion sickness after the first sessions. Is this normal when you start doing track days and once used to it then never happens again.. ? Sort of like sailing.. that you have to get used to. If not, there might be something wrong with me.. inner ear or something. i am a little worried...this little problem will take the fun out of my future track days.
Please ...don't be noob averse ;D ... and let me know what you think. I would appreciate a short yes is normal or no it's not, [thumbsup] Thanks Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: ducpainter on October 04, 2008, 06:43:02 PM track veterans and noobs alike.. did you ever get motion sickness after your first few morning sessions? Today was my second day ever at the same track and the second time that I get motion sickness after the first sessions. Is this normal when you start doing track days and once used to it then never happens again.. ? Sort of like sailing.. that you have to get used to. If not, there might be something wrong with me.. inner ear or something. i am a little worried...this little problem will take the fun out of my future track days. I never suffered motion sickness at the track...Please ...don't be noob averse ;D ... and let me know what you think. I would appreciate a short yes is normal or no it's not, [thumbsup] Thanks fear?... you bet. ;) Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: darylbowden on October 05, 2008, 09:48:53 AM I don't think it's motion sickness (for me at least), but I do get nauseated at the track quite often actually. For me, it's a hydration/heat/sun combo that seems to do it to me, but it does happen. This might sound strange, but I've found that if I can make myself vomit, I feel fine and I can go back out at 100%.
Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: El Matador on October 05, 2008, 09:50:42 AM I felt pretty nauseous at the track before and after the first session. But then It kinda went away. I just chalked it up to nerves.
Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: Cucciolo on October 05, 2008, 05:10:48 PM thanks for your input guys. It could have been nerves/fear since early in the morning I was pretty hydrated and it wasn't hot. Like you said Matador.. and it did go away after lunch, at least last weekend.. but yesterday.. the nausea lasted all day.. it wasn't fun. About vomiting.. I bet it would have worked, but I never get to induce it right.. (I've tried many times back in the day..to sober up of course.. but ended up with a red face and with sore abs instead each time.. LOL)
Next track day I will try taking a motion sickness pill 1 hour before the first session..(if they are non drowsy.. need to check) they work pretty good for flying and they get rid of the nausea pretty good whether it was provoked by fear/nervousness or motion. Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: Statler on October 05, 2008, 05:15:21 PM If it is motion sickness I suggest scapolomine (sp?). It's a patch for behind the ear. Maybe even cut one in half as it's good for several days.
I get horribly seasick and it's a great non-drowsy fix on the boat. Never got motion sick at the track though. Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: ducpainter on October 05, 2008, 05:19:03 PM I get a little nauseous after lunch...
are you eating a lot for breakfast? Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: Cucciolo on October 05, 2008, 05:29:11 PM I get a little nauseous after lunch... Yesterday, I only had a 2 egg omelet, a banana..and a glass of FRS drink for energy. I don't think that is too much.. is it? oh.. wait a sec.. and cheetos.. LOL.. are you eating a lot for breakfast? Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: DesmoDiva on October 05, 2008, 05:29:44 PM I don't think it's motion sickness (for me at least), but I do get nauseated at the track quite often actually. For me, it's a hydration/heat/sun combo that seems to do it to me, but it does happen. This might sound strange, but I've found that if I can make myself vomit, I feel fine and I can go back out at 100%. Sounds like you suffer from hyponatremia, low salt level in the blood. I have this problem anytime I'm sweating a lot. I feel nauseous, and sometimes vomit, if i don't take in enough salts. It took me a couple really close calls, almost passing out, to figure out what was wrong. Now I prevent it from drinking half strength Gatorade when sweating. As long as I'm hydrating and taking in salts, I no longer have this problem. Sometime just water isn't enough. You need to replace the salts your sweating out too. Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: ducpainter on October 05, 2008, 05:31:43 PM Yesterday, I only had a 2 egg omelet, a banana..and a glass of FRS drink for energy. I don't think that is too much.. is it? oh.. wait a sec.. and cheetos.. LOL.. would be for me... ;DTitle: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: darylbowden on October 05, 2008, 07:29:55 PM Sounds like you suffer from hyponatremia, low salt level in the blood. I have this problem anytime I'm sweating a lot. I feel nauseous, and sometimes vomit, if i don't take in enough salts. It took me a couple really close calls, almost passing out, to figure out what was wrong. Now I prevent it from drinking half strength Gatorade when sweating. As long as I'm hydrating and taking in salts, I no longer have this problem. Sometime just water isn't enough. You need to replace the salts your sweating out too. Hmm, that's interesting. Is there anything besides Gatorade i can use? Maybe a salt lick? ;D Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: lin on October 05, 2008, 07:49:13 PM If it is motion sickness I suggest scapolomine (sp?). It's a patch for behind the ear. Maybe even cut one in half as it's good for several days. Diving is another hobby of mine. I see a lot of motion sickness from the boat rides to the dive sites and different remedies including the patch. I've never used it, but have several friends who do so hesitantly. A couple things regarding Scopolamine aka the patch. It's serious stuff such that a prescription is required the last time I checked. Dry mouth is the most common of several possible side effects. Withdrawl symptoms are common from what I've seen as well. I'm not saying you'll have these problems. For instance, it seems to work fine for Statler. I'm just suggesting that you try something over the counter such as Triptone, Dramamine, or Bonine. Bonine has a different active ingredient than the first two. Depending on which one you use and your body chemistry, drowsiness could be an issue. That said.. you sure you weren't just nervous? or you weren't hydrated, rested, and/or nutritionally deficient (salt, potassium, blood sugar)? Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: DesmoDiva on October 06, 2008, 04:16:19 AM Hmm, that's interesting. Is there anything besides Gatorade i can use? Maybe a salt lick? ;D Yes, a salt lick would work. ;) Powerbar has a new product out that is just electrolytes, doesn't have all the sugar Gatorade has. I haven't had a chance to try it yet, because I'm having trouble finding it in my area. (http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn43/Desmodiva/DMF/lemon.jpg) *runner not included. Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: gm2 on October 06, 2008, 07:13:01 AM use this instead of gatorade: http://www.rei.com/product/520007
fwiw, i always sit out a session after i eat lunch. (for those track days that don't stop for lunch, which seems to be most) edit: and yeah i've gotten sick feeling first thing at track days before but i'm 99% sure it was nerves and getting up so bloody early. if i have to get up that early i need an hour to sit and do nothing. Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: Ducnial on October 07, 2008, 02:57:47 PM If you are having serious butterflies/cramps in the morning, just before your first session then I'd suggest its a nervous stomach. Be careful what you drink the night before and what you consume in the morning, no greasy food, no acidic or sugary drinks like orange juice, Gatorade or Colas, high sugar drinks are the biggest cause of upset stomachs for athletes. Eat only as much as necessary to keep the rubbles away and eat it early (+2hrs) to give it a chance to settle. You can always take a Granola to tide you over. While racing bicycles it was not uncommon to see riders with nausea and craps frequenting the porta-pottys first thing before a race. Give it some time, if it is nausea brought on by emotional stress it will go away after a few trackdays. Also except for Pepto Bismol or other OTC antiacids I'd shy FAR away from drug related solutions like Dramamine or Scopolamine (patch) These are powerful drugs that can induce dizziness, drowsiness and mental confusion in some people, that why they are regulated.
Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: Dietrich on October 07, 2008, 03:18:04 PM I've done two track days, and didn't feel naseous at either, despite being nervous and on a hot day. However, I used to get motion sick all the time when night skiing. I think it was the lights or something, but the chairlift ride back up the mountain was torture a couple times. I started popping some over-the-counter motion sickness pills on the first ride up and was good for the night. Can't remember what they were, but they were pretty mild.
Maybe you just need some of these: (http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n85/dietrichpfeifer/TrackDay8-3-08/TrackDay8-3-08f.jpg) ;D Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: gm2 on October 07, 2008, 03:28:18 PM something else to remember: in addition to day-of, drink a ton of water, like constantly, the day BEFORE the track day.
Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: hypurone on October 08, 2008, 06:10:04 AM Ya know, it just might be that whole horizon tilting thing. Some folks (like my wife) get dizzy/nauseous just looking at things tilting over on TV or when the horizon tilts when you're in a corner. Obviously head positioning is key to alleviating it but even then, if you have a propensity for it, it's gonna bug ya. a lot of guys turn their heads to look thru a corner but a lot don't tilt their heads to help maintain the horizon angle. For some not an issue but something I've noticed and may/may not help you...
Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: MTBryan on October 08, 2008, 06:35:55 AM Hey Julian.
First, you might consider not going so damn fast with your head sidways! Just kidding. I get sea sick BIG TIME if I can't see the shore. So, I take Dramamine and nothing else works for me. However, Dramamine completely knocks me out, so I usually take it with a large coffee chaser. Yes, that is completely pathetic, but it works for me. Interestingly, I don't get sea sick while scuba diving (although I do while snorkeling), nor do I get sick from flying. I also occasionally have an inner ear problem that has motion sickness as the result. it's possible you are suffering from that? It's called BPPV. When I used to race mountain bikes, I got close to hurling a time or two. But I chocked it up to race day nerves. Same with Enduro's on the WR. I've heard ginger is a great natural solution to motion sickness. But I haven't tried it on a boat. By the time I get sick on a boat, I am WAY past the point of no return and it's too late for any help at that point. FYI: I am going to start calling you Ralph. [laugh] HAHAHAHAHAHA! Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: Cucciolo on October 08, 2008, 07:43:03 AM a lot of guys turn their heads to look thru a corner but a lot don't tilt their heads to help maintain the horizon angle. For some not an issue but something I've noticed and may/may not help you... Bargy tought us that we needed to keep the head level like you say... but from the gazillion things that I was trying to incorporate and learn at the same time, I am sure that my head was all tilted sideways... I also occasionally have an inner ear problem that has motion sickness as the result. it's possible you are suffering from that? It's called BPPV. Did you or an instructor scare me with this that day.. because I started this thread to rule this issue out.!! FYI: I am going to start calling you Ralph. [laugh] HAHAHAHAHAHA Who the hell is Ralph? LOL Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: MTBryan on October 08, 2008, 07:46:25 AM I think if you had BPPV, it wouldn't go away when off the track. It stays with you for a long time.
If you don't like Ralph, how about Chuck? (Up Chuck)? Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: El Matador on October 08, 2008, 07:50:29 AM Mtbryan might actually have a point there. Try looking more through the turns :)
Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: Cucciolo on October 08, 2008, 08:16:12 AM Mtbryan might actually have a point there. Try looking more through the turns :) I might be able to see if I was tilting the head when MtBryan gives me the pics he took that day.. ;D oh.. and like you.. last track day... well.. the night before, I slept 2 hours or less... [bang] Bryan.. are you on crack today? LOL.... hey,, I wanted to go test a speed triple tomorrow in Madison.. wanna see what the hype is all about. Wanna go? Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: El Matador on October 08, 2008, 09:53:23 AM I might be able to see if I was tilting the head when MtBryan gives me the pics he took that day.. ;D oh.. and like you.. last track day... well.. the night before, I slept 2 hours or less... [bang] Bryan.. are you on crack today? LOL.... hey,, I wanted to go test a speed triple tomorrow in Madison.. wanna see what the hype is all about. Wanna go? Ahh yes, I'm looking forward to not sleeping again on friday ;D Title: Re: Track days and motion sickness Post by: MTBryan on October 08, 2008, 09:58:33 AM Bryan.. are you on crack today? LOL.... hey,, I wanted to go test a speed triple tomorrow in Madison.. wanna see what the hype is all about. Wanna go? No, that was yesterday. HAHAHAHAAHHA! I was only joking. Your head position was fine. I'm not sure about tomorrow or Friday. I will let you know via email. Cheers, Bryan... |