Ducati Monster Forum

Once upon a time, I stumbled across the technical drawings of the CycleCat kickstands.  Does anybody have a copy, or link to those?  They showed the lengths, etc. and I can't find that information anywhere else.

Ok, maybe that's a bit too wishful.   :P

Can somebody measure the stock length of their sidestand from a DSS monster?  My 695 came from the dealer lowered.  I want to go back to standard height, but I don't know how much they cut out of the stand.

Any and all input is appreciated.

what gives with that. My S2R sits like its going to tip over. You would think that some one would make an aftermarket style that is an inch longer.

That's exactly what CycleCat did.

I thought about this too, as it seems it is ready to fall over - so, I tried to tilt it and found that it is NOT going to fall over the kick stand. If it sits more upright, with less pressure on the stand, it is more likely to move back- or forward. Now, that could be more of a problem.

I'm going to take another look if I get the new suspension which will result in a little less free sag. Guys who raise the rear substantially has a valid reason to put on a longer stand, but I think that's easy to do - welding on an extension?

The bike itself was lowered, so they shortened the stand to compensate.  I want the bike back to normal height, so the stand needs to go back, too.

$25+ shipping and Ill sell you my 2001 M900 stand...

PM sent.

I raised my rear on my RS about an inch and I'm having the same issue. Does anyone sell a longer kickstand?

Brian

Getting the length on the kickstands is pretty tricky. Here is the easy way to accurately measure to get your bike to sit at the correct angle.
If you are thinking that you need a longer sidestand you will need to guess at how much longer to start. One inch is a good starting point. If you think you need one inch over then get or make a piece of material in that thickness and place it under your side stand. If the bike is still leaning too far add to the thickness and if standing up to straight loose material. When you have it where you want it you have the length you need to add to the side stand.
If your bike is standing too upright then get two pieces of material in the estimated thickness and place them under both wheels. This will show you what a shorter sidestand by the thickness of the material under the wheels removed from your sidestand will do for your lean angle.
Make sure that the angle of the foot is correct. This is easier said than done. The Cycle Cat copies I have seen are the wrong length for the bike and the foot does not sit flat on the ground. I have no idea who made them so please dont ask.
Good luck with your project.

It's really amazing that this seems to be such a problem to deal with.  I've had a delrin block tapped into the base of my sidestand for a few years now because I had my suspension raised.  Cycle Cat sidestands don't really work because the foot angle isn't great (and I'm not crazy about the flex either), no one else has made an aftermarket sidestand for any of the Monsters, and machinists don't really seem to be crawling out of the woodwork.  I have an aluminum bar I bought several months ago just sitting and I am thinking about shaping it myself.

Those of you who have made your own sidestands, please chime in with how difficult this really is.  I proper billet aluminum bar only costs about $15 on fleabay, and if the work isn't too bad I may just do it myself finally.

I gotta go with stopintime on this one. I raised my RS 1 inch in the rear and initially thought it was gonna fall over in its new "lean" angle. I have manually applied some "help" to it to see if it really is on the edge of going over and its not even close. That said, I do carry a wooden hockey puck in my jacket for extreme situations...

are the extreme lean angles a left over when the stands were suicide stands? i mean if those weren't leaned on heavily... 'bam' time to fix the bike.

I dont have sketches but here are the Cycle Cat application charts.

http://ducatishopping.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1227 (http://ducatishopping.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1227)
http://ducatishopping.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1226 (http://ducatishopping.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1226)

Im looking at the DKS-35 in mill finish for my S4.

Thanks Tim

Cycle Cat made some damn fine products.

Finally broke down and bought an S2R sidestand off ebay for $25.  We'll see if it works since stock height of the S2R is roughly where i raised my 695 to.  Worst comes to worst since this one is aluminum, welding isn't as much of a problem to extend it.

Finally got the new stand on tonight and it sits much better.  I think it could be just a bit longer, but all in all I'm pretty happy.  ECS originally jacked up my rear 3/4" and the front 5/8" when they set up my suspension and did my forks, and I've had a piece of delrin tapped into my iron side stand for the last year or so.  The only minor issue with the S2R sidestand on a 695 is that it hits and rests on the shift linkage when retracted.  A little welded nub will take care of that though. 

Anyone who has a 695 and has raised their ride height would be well served by this mod.  +1 that the stand is aluminum and can be modified further much easier.  Looks much better IMHO as well.

I too tried an S2R stand on my bike, but it hits the low mount exhaust.   The bend angle seems to be bent the opposite of the stock steel stand. 

I had Swatt lined up to make a new one, but didn't push it because of the $$$ it was going to cost.

which was?

Do I hear a group buy, a few different lengths?

Contact oncycles.com Customer Service 614-577-8080 ext. 111.  IIRC they are taking preorders on the 1 inch longer cyclecat sidestands.

Price wasn't 100% set, but $125 was the "range" at the time and it wasn't highest on my priority list.  I can go back to them if there are multiple people interested (they are local to me). 

"Your" Swatt is Bill Swatt of Swatt MotorCycle Products?
They have a good reputation - I'm probably getting their clip ons soon.

$125 is 20 cheaper than the CycleCats. I think that 125ish would be ok.
If you could get an estimate from them and post it in a specific thread, I'm sure a few guys would bite?

They answered by mail today - sorry, just a rumour.

Yes, Bill Swatt.  His place is about 20 minutes from me.  They seem to make good stuff at fair prices.  I'll re-approach them and see if we can work something out. 

Just out of curiosity before going back to them, is anyone else interested...or is it just me and stopintime?  2 vs. 5 vs. 20...it  might make a considerable difference in price and/or their interest in developing a product.

It's impossible to get an accurate estimate. Only when the product is available and the first reviews are in, will people start buying.
Maybe Swatt can call some of his dealers (MonsterParts, MotoWheels, ..?..) and get an idea from them if this is a product people have asked for.
Plenty of people raise their bikes and complain about the new lean angle. I have no idea how many "plenty" is and I have no idea if they actually will buy a new stand. This must be a familiar situation for Swatt, guessing how many they might sell. Talk to them and let's hear what they think.

BTW - I'll post a thread about this, asking for any interest. Just to have something to work with, even if that method is uncertain.

Does anybody remember the discussion on TOB about Sport 1000 kickstand being a bit longer than the regular one on Monsters...?

I remember some measuring was done, but can't remember the results...  [bang]

My bike is up an inch and I'd be interested in a 1" longer stand.

LA

:( i want the cyclecat stand back that i bought, and had to return because it didn't fit my older bike's sidestand mount. Now i have the right kind of mount, and now no sidestand.