Ducati Monster Forum

I need everyone's help in deciding if this is a worthy brand of bike!

I'd need some more details

how much for what size?  New or used?

It's really whether or not anyone believes that this fairly untested brand would be worth spending good money on.  If you would like details to base it on I'd have to start with the GT250/Comet or the GT650/Comet.

I think that for the price, with the 2 year, no extra cost, full coverage warranty it seems like a good deal.  But it all depends on how it feels to me when I was riding it.   Maybe you would want to request that the admins move this over to general monster forum, if you want the rest of the DMF to chime in.  I know at least one of the group owns one.  It's not a Ducati but it could be a good bike.

If you must buy new, and that's your price point, it's not a bad bike.  A used bike will cost the same or less, and you'll get more bike for the money.  If a used 620 is more maintenance than you're interested, check out a used Ninja 650R.

or SV^^^^

The one Goodolboy and I saw was $2900.  I haven't taken one for a test ride yet.

I have ridden brand new hyosungs and I would NOT recommend this brand.  I found the quality to be quite poor! (suspension, welds, fit and finish, etc.)  I rode one from the dealership and wanted to like it for his sake, but the quality was just too bad.  I would recommend buying a used bike of another brand instead.  If I were in your situation and could have a new hyosung or a used honda, yamaha, kawasaki, etc., I would take the used without a second thought!

Depends.. if you were serious into bicycling, would you buy a Huffy? [puke]

I think hyosung translates roughly into english as shit house   :o  buy a used reputable brand

wouldn't this brand be like a Kia for cars?

My big problem with this brand is the whole get what you pay for scenario.

i had looked at the 250 as a easy commuter bike around town and a starter bike for the wife.

at $3500 new, weighing 330,with a wet clutch and about the same seat height of the 696- this is the best bike at the right price for her to grow into the 696. that way i can get the 1100 later  [moto]
plus it's a cool looking little naked and a V-twin

(http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/gallery/gt250_4.jpg)

If it was free. .

yes.

If i have to pay for it. . .

Good god no.

Hyo what now? Is that a vehicle of some sort?

Come on man, why? Go buy an old BMW airhead with 100,000 miles on it. Check the oil and drive it another 100,000 miles.

As I was riding home from a Ducati bike night last week I came upon a guy on a bike broken down on the side of a fairly busy and narrow street.  It was a <20 yr old kid on a 2 month old Hyosung sport bike that died just after he got off the freeway.  I played escort while he pushed the bike down to the next side street where he could get it out of traffic.  I was impressed that the Hyosung had emergency flasher lights, but maybe that is telling...

Anyway..
The Ducati dealer I bought mine has Hyosung also...
And guess what ? I am thinking of getting one as a race bike.
No moral problems to dive that into the gravel, cheap parts and as much fun as the expensive Duc.
I just don't want to park it in front of the caffee ;)

they've sold a heap of them out here in aust.  seem to do quite well and cheap.  as always, you get what you pay for quality and equipment wise, but they appear to be reliable.  the 650 range starts at about half the price of the cagiva 650 raptors (and 696) we were trying to sell.  how many raptors do you think we sold?  we've still got a demo that's about 3 years old i think.

they've sold a shitload of the fully faired 250 due to the (now gone) 250cc learner limit in victoria.  and a heap of limited 650 in other states.

Wait till you see it in person...fugly!!!! i would just get a used bike with a reliable brand.DUCATI!

I'm pretty much a relativist, so I have to answer with "it depends." They are inexpensive and probably not as prone to failure, or high maintenance as some other expensive high strung machines, but from what I've read they ain't a Honda either.

If I was looking to fill the need for something cheap and easy, I would be more likely to go out and find a used bike that covered my needs rather than a Hyosong, but if you gotta have new, then I see nothing inherently wrong with them. They're not a Yugo either.

New....maybe not.  A used, Maybe yes.  Before I got my monster, i was considering a hyosung.

Quote from: ArguZ on October 07, 2008, 01:40:09 AM
Anyway..
The Ducati dealer I bought mine has Hyosung also...
And guess what ? I am thinking of getting one as a race bike.
No moral problems to dive that into the gravel, cheap parts and as much fun as the expensive Duc.
I just don't want to park it in front of the caffee ;)

Couple guys out here had some to compete in the small twin class against the SV650's.... they were not very competitive against the SV's and it seems like they have all disappeared from the track... not sure if that means they blew the engines or not.... but I did see a few crash hard... and they crash just like any other bike.  ;D

Since this is being looked at as an cheaper option to a 695 Ducati Monster, maybe some of you guys can list your 6k and 12k maintance costs.

Any how many of you guys that voted even took this bike out for a test ride?  Any owners?  It's not as good as a Ducati but it's less that fifty percent of the cost. 

I am sure it's awesome man. buy it and give us the lowdown. [moto]

Quote from: Ducatiloo on October 07, 2008, 09:49:19 AM
Any how many of you guys that voted even took this bike out for a test ride?  Any owners?  It's not as good as a Ducati but it's less that fifty percent of the cost. 

Well, if you go to a Ferrari forum and ask what people think about the WRX, you'll get much the same response.  It says more about the audience than about the bike. 

I stand by my original statement; if you have only X dollars to spend on a NEW bike, then you will likely enjoy the Hyosung.  Spend the same X dollars on a good used bike, and you will get more bike ... but it ain't new.  What's "new" worth to you? 

A used Hyosung is another equation.  Not sure I would want one out of warranty.  There just isn't any owner history to determine their longevity.

I think the thing that appeals to me is using it as a teaching bike for my wife.

My favorite rag, Motorcycle Consumer News did a review of the 650 version.  The message that I got is that these bikes have a nice engine
(a sv650 knock-off) but other than that it was about the harshest review that I can remember them doing.  I put a lot of faith in their opinions.  I'd look for something else.   

It seems to me there's no reason to mess around with them when Ninja 250's and SV650's are so proven and easy to get a hold of!

Quote from: Paegelow on October 07, 2008, 05:30:53 PM
It seems to me there's no reason to mess around with them when Ninja 250's and SV650's are so proven and easy to get a hold of!

yes but the ninja 250 is more based on the sport bike style of low clipsons and agressive seating right? i mean the GT 250 hyosung almost has the exact ergonomics of the monsters.

i know they are not better bikes. i'm just looking to avoid putting the wife on a sport bike that will be hard on the wrists and one that will be closer to the 696 as far as riding style.

Quote from: Raux on October 07, 2008, 06:32:25 PM
yes but the ninja 250 is more based on the sport bike style of low clipsons and agressive seating right? i mean the GT 250 hyosung almost has the exact ergonomics of the monsters.

i know they are not better bikes. i'm just looking to avoid putting the wife on a sport bike that will be hard on the wrists and one that will be closer to the 696 as far as riding style.

Suzuki GS500.   Cheap.  Upright.  Newb friendly power.  Sporty.

Quote from: mmakay on October 07, 2008, 07:06:48 PM

Suzuki GS500.   Cheap.  Upright.  Newb friendly power.  Sporty.

cool thanks. i will be looking when i get to europe. then again maybe i'll find an aprilia rs250 for the road ;)

Quote from: Raux on October 07, 2008, 07:10:13 PM
cool thanks. i will be looking when i get to europe. then again maybe i'll find an aprilia rs250 for the road ;)

rs250 is not so noob friendly, power band can bite you in the arse!!!

Quote from: wraith on October 07, 2008, 07:15:39 PM
rs250 is not so noob friendly, power band can bite you in the arse!!!

ever ridden the RS50? fun as hell little bikes.

Quote from: goodolboy on October 06, 2008, 04:42:24 PM
I need everyone's help in deciding if this is a worthy brand of bike!

I think you will degrade yourself, and I think I need to get this out of my head so I can sleep nightmare-free tonight.   [puke]

Thank you for your input people, so far my thoughts are echoing in yours.  I would also like to add that my whole reason for this poll was to show a point.  Ducatiloo is trying to talk me into this brand of bike.  Being a Duc owner himself I figured I'd go to the rest of you Duc aficionados get your input.  So far, I am leaning toward the whole used bike idea.  Whether it be a Duc, Sv650, etc.  I might just post this poll on a Hyosung forum to see their views.  You laugh, I googled it, they are out there!

Good Luck.

I think a used bike poses more than just one benefit. 

The drop in value has already happened, if/when you drop her, it will not be as bad, and the fit and finish will be so much better than that Kia.

GS500E/F
SV650
CBR600F2/F3/F4
GSXR600
Bandit 400/600
ZX6R/E
ZR7
M750
M900
900SS

Ninja 250 (2007 and older) and sv650 both have up right riding and seating positions.

Ninja250 2008+ has the clipons... sv650S had clipons.... and would be more aggressive.

My wife is learning on a Ninja... and if you put flush aftermarket blinkers on it... then you can drop it a dozen times and not scratch anything but the pipes.... of course these are low speed in the driveway type drops... not that I am speaking from experience here or anything...  [thumbsup]

Quote from: Beyote on October 07, 2008, 09:13:28 PM

Good Luck.

I think a used bike poses more than just one benefit. 

The drop in value has already happened, if/when you drop her, it will not be as bad, and the fit and finish will be so much better than that Kia.

GS500E/F
SV650
CBR600F2/F3/F4
GSXR600
Bandit 400/600
ZX6R/E
ZR7
M750
M900
900SS

Just as an FYI, I have a Bandit 600 as my first bike, and I probably wouldn't recommend it for a woman, unless they are sized like a man.  The powerband is pretty newb friendly and it's reliable, but it's a heavy and top-heavy bike (~440 lbs. dry, would be ~500lbs. wet) with a relatively high seat height, especially compared to the perennial new-biker favorites of the Ninja 250/500 & GS500.  There were a couple times when I first started riding that I almost dropped the bike just sitting at a stoplight, and the only thing that saved me was that I could flat-foot the bike (I'm 6' 1") and have pretty good leg strength (I weigh 205 lbs).  If my legs were any weaker or shorter it would definitely have gone down.  It also kind of "falls" into corners with its weight, and I almost low-sided a couple times at the beginning because of that. 

I was in fact looking for a GS500 or Ninja 500 for my first bike, but couldn't find any decent ones in my price range ($2000 at the time).  Now that I've got a couple years on the Bandit, I'm looking at upgrading to an S2R800 (which is why I'm on this site anyway). ;D

I just want to formally apologize to Ducatiloo,  He was not pushing it on me.  He was helping me way the pros and cons.  He has a very large knowledge on bikes.  I just wanted to set the record straight.  Thanks again everyone for your input! [clap]

Another thing to consider is if you will be able to sell the bike.  Since you are gonna use it as a starter bike that will probably be grown out of in a hurry, will you be able to sell it without giving it away?

Dont know they produced the motors for Suzuki for long enough.