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Title: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: MrFryMoto on October 14, 2008, 05:42:38 PM
here's the situation - my work buys several animals from the mid-state fair every year, has them butchered and divies up the cuts amoung the employees...
i have (had) a full large ice chest full of pork, and today i got the beef.
problem is, the freezer is full of pork (and other such nonsense). i hooked up my small apartment fridge over the weekend and turned it as cold as it would go - it maintained (empty) about 22 F

....would this be cold enough?
(pictures to come)
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on October 14, 2008, 05:45:09 PM
31 degrees is enough, assuming you want to freeze it.

you would be better off putting the items already frozen in the little freezer, so it doesn't have to work hard to bring the warmer items down to freezing, as freezing meat quicker is better.
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: brix821 on October 14, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
that is fine for most states health codes.... but it might be too much for a small fridge too long...cheapie chest freezers pop up on craigslist from ttime to time...
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: rgramjet on October 14, 2008, 05:48:50 PM
Id put the frozen pork in the dorm fridge, let the beef freeze then switch them out.  Zero degrees would be preferable for long term storage.   Dont make the dorm fridge work too hard by putting in unfrozen beef.  I usually take the most desireable cuts of buth animals and put them deep in the more reliable freezer.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: rgramjet on October 14, 2008, 05:49:17 PM
lol ditto!
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: MrFryMoto on October 14, 2008, 05:54:45 PM
guess i should have clarified - the beef is already frozen


Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: MrFryMoto on October 14, 2008, 06:01:52 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/Deadmr2/Forum%20Stuff/DSCN5317.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/Deadmr2/Forum%20Stuff/DSCN5320.jpg)
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Randimus Maximus on October 14, 2008, 06:04:46 PM
why don't you just have a big "Official DMF Cookout".

problem solved.

;D
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: MrFryMoto on October 14, 2008, 06:09:18 PM
oh!
so you think you slimey make the beast with two backsers deserve some of my precious meat eh?


c'mon over!  ;D
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on October 14, 2008, 06:18:50 PM
Seriously dude-set it up!
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: aaronb on October 14, 2008, 06:31:50 PM
make the beast with two backs insurance and profit sharing, i wish my work had the annual meat bonus benefit!
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: brix821 on October 14, 2008, 07:09:49 PM
mine does...(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/awc292/1001082045a.jpg)
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: NAKID on October 14, 2008, 08:06:21 PM
So far, everyone is right on. Also, the fridge will not work as hard keeping a full fridge at the set temp. So, a full fridge should be able to maintain a lower temp than an empty one.

22 is fine, but not optimal for long term storage. Also, most health codes require frozen foods to be stored at zero F or below....
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Randimus Maximus on October 14, 2008, 09:04:34 PM
Quote from: NAKID on October 14, 2008, 08:06:21 PM
22 is fine, but not optimal for long term storage. Also, most health codes require frozen foods to be stored at zero F or below....

what are you, a health inspector now?
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: eltristo on October 14, 2008, 09:07:11 PM
Quote from: MrFry on October 14, 2008, 06:09:18 PM
oh!
so you think you slimey make the beast with two backsers deserve some of my precious meat eh?


c'mon over!  ;D

I'll grab the Ted and be right there! ;D
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: He Man on October 14, 2008, 11:27:29 PM
me wants.

how long you looking to store it for?

Now be a good time to try to dry age it!
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: TiNi on October 15, 2008, 03:40:51 AM
that's a lot of meat fry
you best get cookin'  ;)

i had a similar problem when my fiancée's brother sent us a huge box of organic meat from his farm.
i could not make it fit in the freezer with the stuff we already had.
so i opted to toss the ice cream, and some other stuff.

how long can you keep meat in a freezer?
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Howie on October 15, 2008, 04:31:19 AM
Tons os stuff on google, here is some:
http://www.azdhs.gov/phs/oeh/fses/sfstt_dt1.htm (http://www.azdhs.gov/phs/oeh/fses/sfstt_dt1.htm)
http://www.dvo.com/newsletter/monthly/2003/march/remedy4.html (http://www.dvo.com/newsletter/monthly/2003/march/remedy4.html)
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: TiNi on October 15, 2008, 04:40:31 AM
i waited too long... looks like i'll be tossing some of it  :-\


Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Howie on October 15, 2008, 04:57:05 AM
You might want to speak to a butcher before tossing it.  If the length of time is a quality issue, not a health issue you may be able to use it for stew, braising or smoking. 
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Speedbag on October 15, 2008, 05:48:43 AM
Quote from: howie on October 15, 2008, 04:57:05 AM
You might want to speak to a butcher before tossing it.  If the length of time is a quality issue, not a health issue you may be able to use it for stew, braising or smoking. 

+1

Meat hoarder!!! You're supposed to eat it, not collect it.  ;)
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: TiAvenger on October 15, 2008, 07:27:30 AM
Jeebus.... thats alota meats.


;D [bacon]
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: NAKID on October 15, 2008, 08:39:13 AM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on October 14, 2008, 09:04:34 PM
what are you, a health inspector now?

Is that a serious question?

I thought you knew. Yes, that's what I do for the Navy. Preventive Medicine Technician. One of my responsibilties is health inspector for food service facilities as well as fresh, frozen and dry food storage...
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: MendoDave on October 15, 2008, 10:18:58 AM
you should cook the stuff you are thinking of throwing out. At least have it smoked.

And start eating that meat in the frezer man!  [bacon]
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Rob Hilding on October 15, 2008, 10:38:01 AM
When we meet at Fry's for meat,

we can have the bacon eating olympics at the same time ;D
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: MrFryMoto on October 15, 2008, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: bozcorob on October 15, 2008, 10:38:01 AM
When we meet at Fry's for meat,

we can have the bacon eating olympics at the same time ;D

Bacolympics  ;D ;D ;D

[moto] [drink] [beer] [drink][bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [drink]  [beer][drink] [puke] [puke] [puke]
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Rob Hilding on October 15, 2008, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: MrFry on October 15, 2008, 11:17:39 AM
Bacolympics  ;D ;D ;D

[moto] [drink] [beer] [drink][bacon] [puke] [bacon] [puke] [bacon] [puke] [bacon] [puke] [drink]  [beer][drink] [puke] [puke] [puke]

fixed ;D
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: rgramjet on October 15, 2008, 12:04:42 PM
You could always can it or make some killer jerky!  Im still eating deer jerky that I made last year! 
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Speedbag on October 15, 2008, 12:41:36 PM
Quote from: rgramjet on October 15, 2008, 12:04:42 PM
You could always can it.....  

Canned meat is gooooooood. Great taco or enchilada material.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Randimus Maximus on October 15, 2008, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: NAKID on October 15, 2008, 08:39:13 AM
I thought you knew. Yes, that's what I do for the Navy. Preventive Medicine Technician. One of my responsibilties is health inspector for food service facilities as well as fresh, frozen and dry food storage...

Is that a serious answer?
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: KnightofNi on October 15, 2008, 02:11:07 PM
JERKY!!!!!


the DMF jerky exchange....you can start, run, and supply it!
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on October 15, 2008, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: MrFry on October 15, 2008, 11:17:39 AM
Bacolympics  ;D ;D ;D

[moto] [drink] [beer] [drink][bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [drink]  [beer][drink] [puke] [puke] [puke]


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: MrFryMoto on October 16, 2008, 10:33:01 AM
hmmm
so, what's a clever acronym for DIMBY - but on the west coast?
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: TiAvenger on October 16, 2008, 10:36:14 AM
Quote from: MrFry on October 16, 2008, 10:33:01 AM
hmmm
so, what's a clever acronym for DIMBY - but on the west coast?


DIMBYOTCCANISOFB

Ducaties in my backyard on the cool coast and not in some old farts backyard.
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: Rob Hilding on October 16, 2008, 11:13:06 AM
Quote from: TiAvenger on October 16, 2008, 10:36:14 AM
DIMBYOTCCANISOFBEB

Ducaties in my backyard on the cool coast and not in some old farts backyard eating bacon.

Fixed ;)
Title: Re: is 22 degrees F cold enough to store meat?
Post by: KnightofNi on October 16, 2008, 12:59:11 PM
Quote from: MrFry on October 16, 2008, 10:33:01 AM
hmmm
so, what's a clever acronym for DIMBY - but on the west coast?


DIFBYTOFA
Ducatis In Fry's Backyard That's Obnoxiously Far Away