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Get out there and vote, y'all.   [thumbsup]

Even if the presidential race is decided early, your vote iin CA is critical.  Prop. 8 (same sex marriage) is on the ballot as is Prop. 4 (parental notification for teen abortions).   Your vote should be heard.  Don't sit silent and let others make the decision for you.  Remember, these are statewide initiatives, so even if everyone around you agrees one way or another, folks from other parts of the state may be voting differently.  Every vote counts.

Don't give up just cuz the lines are long or cuz you think it doesn't matter.  It really, really does.   [thumbsup]

VOTED
I was there at 8:10 to cast my first vote in a US election. Kinda cool to finally have a say in things.  ;D  [moto]

+1

I voted last week via absentee so my vote didn't count already since last week.  Seriously though, exercise your right to vote!!!!  Make a difference.

My polling place opened at 7am and I got there at 6:50.  There was already a line halfway down the block.  It was an hour-long wait.  :-\  I had to leave my helmet on the bike since it has a buncha political stickers on it.

Voted absentee the day it came in the mail [thumbsup]

Spidey, sorry to hear about the SNAFU at your precinct. I walked down past my local precinct this morning, and there seemed to be no line. I've monitored that precinct for campaigns in past elections, and it's always run smoothly.

It's a damn shame that in 2008 we still disenfranchise people by having only one day to vote (in many states, anyway) and inadequate voting equipment. Rachel Maddow calls the long lines a new form of poll tax, and I'm inclined to agree with her. This is one issue where there should be consensus...people everywhere should have no problems voting.

Ours opened at 8. Sux about the line though. I hope stuff like that does not discourage people from voicing their opinion.

I don't think it was a snafu.  It's just Noe.  All the yuppies (myself included) vote early on the way to work rather than late in the day.  And all the moms were there with strollers cuz their kids get up early.  It was kinda neighborly feelin'.  The kids all wanted to sit on the bike.   ;D    When I've gone later in the day for other elections (albeit with lower turnout than this one), it's been a breeze. 

If I can get my two motions out by before the end of the day (I hate having deadlines on election day) and ditch work, I'm gonna go get people to the polls.  A buncha my colleagues flew to other states to as lawyer/monitors. 

I hope that's the case. In other states (Virginia), there are reports of long lines, malfunctioning voting equipment, and high numbers of voter challenges by political operatives.

VOTED!

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I just made this flag for the back of my bike which I intend to parade around town with at lunch honking my Stebrel horn like a mad fool.

Catch the action LIVE:
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You can also report your voting experience here:   
http://myfairelection.com/ (http://myfairelection.com/)
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Got my *sticker*!  [thumbsup]

Voted.  I waited longer than I've ever waited before, and was happy to do it.  It's good to see crowds at the polls.  [thumbsup]

i voted for spidey ... AND the new ducati logo :o

Voted permanent absentee a while ago.  Now...where is the best place to be for the results this evening?!?

My house party.

After birthing class ( [roll]), I'm gonna watch some results with a coupla Republican friends (they all huddle together for spiritual warmth each election day) and then swing by the Castro.  As the Blonde said, it'll "either crazy tense b/c it's too close, wild partying because prop 8 goes down, or mad grooms sodomizing in the streets and burning wall street journals if 8 wins."  No matter what, it'll be a spectacle.    [evil]   ;D

To have a vote is so awesome...
I became a citizen as an adult, have traveled central/south america and central asia...sad.
I love having a voice in my country of choice.

I voted. I was like the 6th or 7th person in line this morning  [thumbsup]

Oh and I slapped the sticker on the back of my helmet  ;D

Ya, permanent absentee is the way to go. Dropped my ballot off last Friday, maybe took 5 minutes tops.  [thumbsup]

Popped open a really nice bottle of wine and sat down with the TV and laptop.

I voted for the kingdom to put an end to all these governments.

Well, you're almost far enough north to be in the State of Jefferson (http://www.jeffersonstate.com/). You can always secede ;D

It would just be a 51st state anyway. What about becoming part of the Humboldt Nation? 
Just think, I wouldn't have to bathe more than once every two weeks  [cheeky]

The downside is No more  [bacon] unless it was made out of Tofu.  [bang]

On second thought I think I will just mind my own business and see what develops. Although I am stoked about Prop 1A (http://www.ktla.com/landing/?Prop-1A-High-Speed-Train-Leading-52-48=1&blockID=120713&feedID=1699)

That is definitely excellent news. We've been waiting for that kind of thing for years.

If the feds don't kick down money, it will never get finished.. Seems awfully risky.. Monorail anyone?

Definitely some risk involved...but the rewards are huge. A drastic reduction in short-hop air travel, its attendant pollution and resource utilization, and less need for municipalities in the state to build & maintain airport infrastructure? I'll take that risk any day. But we all have different levels of risk aversion.

I used to work at SFO United Line. usually on the 737 Line. You guys got any Idea How many shuttle flights they have going on between here and LA/San Diego?

Totally ridiculous, just totally ridiculous!

All that fuel. And that's just United. 

I fly to Ontario (LA-ish) every Thursday.  I'll never fully grasp the financial and environmental impacts of air travel, though I understand they are considerable.  I'd love to take the train if it proves to be a viable option, especially if it comes with a reduced environmental impact.

Seriously?  Where are they putting you up?

I like fast trains. Imagine bringing your own what ever you want more than 3oz.


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A typical 737 flight to LA uses around 200 plastic cups + plastic bottles/cans. Because ---> the insulation in planes fills with water from humidity which ruins it, so they dehumidify the interior to around 1%, which is the driest place on earth. That's why you're always dying of thirst, catching illness, and generally feeling like poo when you land. Consequently they use lots of bottles.)

Why can't we concentrate on gettin BART to San Jose first?  :P

Note to Moderator: Please keep this thread here for 10 years so I can come and say I told you so.  [cheeky]

I wish!!! That was my biggest gripe about working down there... I HAD to drive! There was no way I could bike, or take the train. [bang] Busses are an absolute joke around here >:(, and I really don't feel like joining the local bacteria trading club either! [puke] [cheeky]

Coolest train ride ever was going first class from Paris to London on the Eurostar. Eating lunch on china at over 200kph.  [thumbsup]

Now that's travel!

Go high speed train!! We're long overdue!

I hate to be the wet blanket here in the midst of everyone's celebrations, but I'm not even close to recovered from this election.  :'(  I'm hoping my sense of humor will return in a matter of days or--worst case scenario--a coupla weeks. 

I myself am disappointed with some of the decisions specially in California.

Trying really hard not to get political here  :-\

You may get your Vote on DEC 2nd.

+1  :'(

Fret not, my friends. Elections weren't meant to give everyone everything they want. And as long as you come away with something and don't lose too much, you're better off than before. And remember: this is a blip in time. Peoples' attitudes change as time goes on. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

But I want a high-speed train ride!  [cheeky]

I assume we are talking about prop 8 here.
ok sorry if I am getting political, but this movement should look at successful civil rights movements of the past for direction. MLK comes immediately to mind.

People on the fence are much more receptive to "I have a Dream" Than "It's gonna happen. Whether you like it or not!".

It's just a day trip, but when I've stayed overnight, it was either at Kellogg West on Cal Poly's campus or Casa 425 in Claremont.

I had thoughts along similar lines. There's usually a backlash against folks fighting for rights via the courts. That's what happened with the Civil Rights movement and its victories in the courts, but those were supplemented with a grassroots movement that ultimately led to legislative and societal change as well. Still, there was a backlash. There's plenty of finger-pointing going on, but in ten, maybe fifteen years, society's attitudes will change. Like I said...it's a marathon, not a sprint. It requires engagement and consensus-building, instead of abrasive politicians preaching to the faithful. And it requires that we as Americans understand that there's a difference between our personal religious beliefs and our national identity. That's not something that'll happen overnight.

a-WHAT?!
God won't love us unless we stop freely choosing and just follow laws.

[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Ironic, since it was Him whoeth supposedly gave us free choice to begin with.

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A storm is brewing and it's not over. Even though logic tells me so, it's hard to remain calm and not somewhat enraged. It's sure a pisser when people can take away rights just because they don't like something. [bang] [bang] [bang]


Absolutely true. For every social movement there's an equally strong backlash and unfortunately this one really motivates religious people. But what's ridiculous is if your religion says marraige should be in a certain way, what about all the people who don't believe in Christian marraige? Do atheists "threaten" good, moral Christian marraiges too? What about Muslims, Hindus, Budhhists, and Judiasm? Christians have been trying to politicize their religion in this country for far too long. Everybody should be allowed to believe how they want that's why we have seperation of church and state. In America, a religion-less state, we care more about religion than in many industrialized countries.

Christians have been trying to politicize their religion.

   I truly think you're mistaken, when you say this as a blanket statement.  I think we all need to look up the word "religion" again.  It is a series of beliefs.  If you believe an amoeba started this whole crazy thing called life, then that shapes and forms your "religion."   I mean there's even a "religion" for the Sacred Mushroom.  Really, look it up.  They're out of Switzerland or somewhere.  Anyways, don't fool yourself into thinking that no one other than Christians are politicizing their beliefs.  Whatever you center your life around, whether it's one God, two gods, your bike, your job, your significant other, some social issue, that's what shapes your thoughts and motivates your actions and therefore forms your "religion"

Sheesh, I was originally looking up a wiring diagram and then saw this....see what happens when bikes become religious... [laugh]

Later

You can't fight intolerance with intolerance guys... Not all agree with that, but I really think it's true..

Christians have been trying to politicize their religion in this country for far too long. Everybody should be allowed to believe how they want that's why we have seperation of church and state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_denomination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_denomination)

Believe whatever you want, but don't tell everyone else how to believe.

And not all Christians are intolerant, I never suggested that.




Jeez... I thought I was clear. Yeah, let's go back to talking about rides and motorcycles [laugh]

Not trying to be a wise guy, but is anyone surprised this thread is going in this direction?  I mean, I saw the OP on Tues. and knew it was bound to get a little feisty. 
It's hard keeping those religious views inside.....again, not being sarcastic or intolerant about any view. 


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We do have a probational Political board in the No Moto Content section.

Perhaps we should take it over there =)

Hey who is going to the International Motorcycle show in San Mateo next month.... Trying to change the subject  ;)

I'm going !!!  Can't wait.  There are some really nice pics on the general forum from some show.....nice looking bikes. 

Later

I can't wait to swing my leg over all those new beautiful bikes.  [thumbsup]

I wonder if this High speed train will have a special car to load motorcycles On?  :D

I'm planning on going...Dave may be out of town, so I might have to test out bikes for him.

If it fits me, it won't work for him. [cheeky]