Title: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: mmakay on May 10, 2008, 06:17:19 PM Does anybody have pictures of the CycleCat coffin-reservoir spacers for their clip-ons? I need to fab something up, and would like to see what their's look like.
Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons Post by: Clyde Frog on May 10, 2008, 10:58:44 PM Does anybody have pictures of the CycleCat coffin-reservoir spacers for their clip-ons? I need to fab something up, and would like to see what their's look like. Sorry, can't help with pics... but if you end up making them and feel like throwing together an extra set, let me know. I'd definitely be interested. [moto] Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons Post by: mmakay on May 11, 2008, 06:15:00 PM I'm thinking of doing a simple moon-shaped spacer that would do the trick without being difficult to turn on a lathe. I can't think of a good reason to include the bolt tabs. I can definitely make an extra set if that sounds ok to you. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: MotoPsycho on May 18, 2008, 09:41:10 AM I actually have a set of these I got several years ago that I don't need anymore. I upgraded to remore resivoir pumps. When I tore my bike down to powdercoat everything I used the bolts for other things so all that's left is the spacers and the bracket for the choke.
Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: mmakay on May 18, 2008, 11:10:03 AM I actually have a set of these I got several years ago that I don't need anymore. I upgraded to remore resivoir pumps. When I tore my bike down to powdercoat everything I used the bolts for other things so all that's left is the spacers and the bracket for the choke. PM sent Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: aa4111 on May 18, 2008, 07:33:50 PM Here you are my good friends
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2599/ccspacersv2.jpg) Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: mmakay on May 19, 2008, 04:49:11 AM Here you are my good friends (http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2599/ccspacersv2.jpg) You sir, are the man! Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: aa4111 on May 19, 2008, 08:23:41 AM You sir, are the man! Dont thank me, I snagged it off TOB when I was looking to make the same moon shaped spacers myself! 8) (http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6392/img1060if6.jpg) Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: MotoPsycho on May 19, 2008, 03:56:26 PM I bet it would be really easy to take some 7/8 rod and machine a 7/8 groove in it like that on a mill then cut it to the right length
Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: mmakay on May 19, 2008, 05:04:19 PM I bet it would be really easy to take some 7/8 rod and machine a 7/8 groove in it like that on a mill then cut it to the right length That was my thought. Or even some thick-wall tubing..... Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: Bizzarrini on December 31, 2008, 06:12:56 AM Here you are my good friends (http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2599/ccspacersv2.jpg) Hi Guys, anyone know of a set of these babies for sale? I've just converted my bike to CC top triple and LSL clip-ons, and am in need of some spacers now... Cheers! Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: stopintime on December 31, 2008, 06:32:43 AM "Coffin masters only create problems with clip ons without rise" is the truth I base my clip on plans on. Did I miss something? Why do you guys need the spacers - fairing bracket? Headlight bracket? Clip on bracket? CC specific issues?
I don't know if these are the right ones, but here you have an alternative (maybe?) http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ADAP/Clutch-Brakes/ADAP.html Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: Howie on December 31, 2008, 06:34:13 AM How about these?
http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ADAP/Clutch-Brakes/ADAP.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ADAP/Clutch-Brakes/ADAP.html) Nevermind, stopintime beat me to it :P Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: Bizzarrini on December 31, 2008, 06:36:51 AM Those are exactly what I'm lookin' for, thanks! The problem is that the reservoir doesn't clear the clip-on bracket, there just isn't enough space for the reservoir, so I need to position it a bit further away...
Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: Bizzarrini on December 31, 2008, 06:44:44 AM hmmm, out of stock... guess I'll be waiting a bit longer :'(
Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: stopintime on December 31, 2008, 07:03:15 AM Those are exactly what I'm lookin' for, thanks! The problem is that the reservoir doesn't clear the clip-on bracket, there just isn't enough space for the reservoir, so I need to position it a bit further away... Are you sure they don't clear? I have had quite a few people telling me the only clearance issues are with the headlight or similar ??? hmmm, out of stock... guess I'll be waiting a bit longer :'( Don't always trust "stock/out f stock". MonsterParts site is seldom updated ;) Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: Bizzarrini on December 31, 2008, 07:14:35 AM Yeah, I'm not sure how I can upload pictures, but it's a matter of mm's. If the handlebars would have been 0,5 cm longer, I wouldn't have had a problem (then I could have placed the levers a bit more towards the outside, steering (haha) clear of the clamps)
Thanks for the tip, I'll mail Monster Parts to make sure! :-) Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: DarkStaR on December 31, 2008, 07:55:18 AM Stopintime:
The clearance problem with coffin masters depends on which clip-ons are being used. If the area where the bar clamps to the clip-on bracket is however much larger than the bar, the bracket will hit the coffin master reservoir. The spacer is definitely needed with the CC clip-ons w/ coffin masters, and I believe the Tomasellis needed the spacers also. A bunch of other clip-ons also have this problem with the coffin masters, but CC seems to be the only one that addressed the problem with these spacers. Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: stopintime on December 31, 2008, 08:32:01 AM Stopintime: The clearance problem with coffin masters depends on which clip-ons are being used. If the area where the bar clamps to the clip-on bracket is however much larger than the bar, the bracket will hit the coffin master reservoir. The spacer is definitely needed with the CC clip-ons w/ coffin masters, and I believe the Tomasellis needed the spacers also. A bunch of other clip-ons also have this problem with the coffin masters, but CC seems to be the only one that addressed the problem with these spacers. Thank you, the clearance issue is somewhat more clear now [cheeky] The LSL mentioned above seems to be quite slim, but creates problems. Bill Swatt at Swatt Motorcycle Products has installed several of their clip ons on coffin Monsters, without any issues. He Man had problems with his Tomasellis, but only because they had no rise in them (headlight clearance issues). Hmmmm..... I think I understand the problems I might experience, but the mixed messages I get from here and there seems to make my plans to get Swatts with some rise a "risky" business, no matter who says what. I'll probably choose to trust the Swatts to be OK and deal with any issues IF they appear. I just hope MonsterParts' spacers will be in stock then ;D BTW: MonsterParts is getting some Swatts to check them out, so by the time I'm ready I'll be able to know for sure - hopefully. Anyway - thanks a lot for helping a foreigner understand the Monster world better [thumbsup] Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: DarkStaR on December 31, 2008, 08:54:11 AM OP:
Sorry for the thread jack. If you need more pics/measurements of the spacers, let me know. I have a pair (not for sale) sitting in my workkshop. Stopintime: From the looks of the swatt clip-on w/ rise, the bar clamp portion looks to be some what similar to the CC. Meaning, the spacer might be necessary. swatt w/ rise (http://www.swattmotorcycle.com/sitebuilder/images/clipons-w-risers-225x132.jpg) CC (http://redboston.com/temp/risers1_edit.jpg) Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: stopintime on December 31, 2008, 09:04:04 AM It certainly looks like you're right - the bar clamp bolts are in front of the bar, even. I'm going to look into this further, but for now the explanation "must" be that the Swatts have longer bars than the other brands (?). Bill Swatt said what he said, but I'll bother him again about this.
Good thing it's winter and not much rush. Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: monsta on January 01, 2009, 03:46:21 PM I made some moon shaped ones like mmakay's
I havn't tried em yet, so I cant tell anything. but I do like the way CC's ones are captive and cant work their way out the side. Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: Bizzarrini on January 02, 2009, 02:38:05 PM I've also tried the moon-shaped spacers, but the brake lever seems to have a lot more flex when I use them, so I was hoping a "full spacer" would resolve that issue...
Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: stopintime on January 02, 2009, 04:14:45 PM Did you guys see this?
Cycle Cat spacers.............. (could be an out-of-stock listing, I don't know) http://www.twowheelsteals.com/CycleCat-Brake-master-cylinder-spacer?sc=8&category=-108 (http://www.twowheelsteals.com/CycleCat-Brake-master-cylinder-spacer?sc=8&category=-108) Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: monsta on January 02, 2009, 08:38:29 PM Did you guys see this? Cycle Cat spacers.............. (could be an out-of-stock listing, I don't know) http://www.twowheelsteals.com/CycleCat-Brake-master-cylinder-spacer?sc=8&category=-108 (http://www.twowheelsteals.com/CycleCat-Brake-master-cylinder-spacer?sc=8&category=-108) good find... I emailed them... will let ya's know. [thumbsup] Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: Bizzarrini on January 07, 2009, 06:03:56 AM good find... I emailed them... will let ya's know. [thumbsup] Any news yet? Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: stopintime on January 07, 2009, 02:01:11 PM Bill Swatt did the install without issues, as I said before, but it appears that he did it on older Monsters with smaller (?) cast reservoirs. He is no longer sure about the need/or not for spacers. He added the advice that the riser part itself can be swapped right/left and rotated so the bar pinch bolts face backwards = less metal for the reservoirs to clear.
MonsterParts is going to test-install, not sure when, and they or I will report their findings. With the spacers comes the need to adjust the levers closer - right? (I'm not sure my CRGs can be adjusted closer than they already are, hmm...) Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: Mojo S2R on January 08, 2009, 02:45:18 AM Here's a pic of the spacers from monsterparts:
(http://www.monsterparts.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/ADAP_large.jpg) And the link to the page again: http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ADAP/Clutch-Brakes/ADAP.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ADAP/Clutch-Brakes/ADAP.html) Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: Bizzarrini on January 08, 2009, 04:28:04 AM I just ordered the spacers from Monster Parts, I'll let you know how the fitting works out! Hope they arrive soon :-)
Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: monsta on January 13, 2009, 01:16:02 PM Any news yet? yep, they have one set, but the freight to australia is more than the product is worth. So, if anyone wants em... get onto it fast! :) Title: Re: Coffin-reservoir spacers for clip-ons? Post by: sgs2r on March 05, 2009, 03:14:09 AM just happened to stumble upon this topic, so i thought i'd add my $0.02...
well, i got the Swatts a few months ago and i can tell you that the coffins will definitely not clear the clip-on brackets on the S2r 800 (05). i even tried inverting (left bracket to right side and vice versa) the brackets to see if it'll help but to no avail. mine's got 2-1/2" risers... i think this problem would apply to Swatts without risers too... i'm not sure so don't quote me on that... so i got a biz friend to fab a set of the spacers out of aluminum (he charged me S$50) and used longer bolts (10mm more) to secure the masters in place. dimensions as per picture attached. (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3311/3330685102_8492ba3294.jpg?v=0) clearly, the dimensions are not the same as the one pictured in the earlier post by aa4111 but it works for me. not sure about other brands of clip-ons... here's a pic of the spacer now. (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3570/3329848013_05866d1c91.jpg?v=0) the clip-on brackets now clear the reservoirs by a mere millimeter... keep in mind that adding the spacers mean that you'll have more clearance between the grips and the levers and that those with small hands might not be comfortable with this. an alternative to solving the clearance issue would be to have longer handlebars. the additional length would have to be at least 18mm, but i reckon 25mm would be a safer bet. i can take measurements for you if you like... looking at the picture below, you'll see what i mean... (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3368/3330682714_b13d462e10.jpg?v=0) the length of the coffins, minus the length of the handlebars not in use(left side) is the length that you need to add, or slightly more just in case. but i find that this does not help with the lower riding profile and the overall look of the bike... but that's just me... hope this helps... |