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Only 45 made.  Can be yours for the cool price of $110,000

It does nothing for me.

I like there other cruiser version better

Awesome fabrication work as always.  [thumbsup]

Seat looks comfy.  [thumbsup]

It'd help a lot if they hacked about 9" out of that swingarm.

Personally I like the Hellcat much more

Quote from: Rufus120 on November 07, 2008, 10:07:57 PM
Personally I like the Hellcat much more

That's because the Hellcat is one of the awesomest bikes ever. 

This one, while funky, is still groovy.  Though I agree with the speeddog that there's gotta be some way to shorten that swingarm.

Notice how you rarely see these bikes with a person on top?  They are so beautiful they get ruined by plopping some fat slob on them.  Better as ornaments than transportation, methinks.

I like it and can appreciate it but the wheelbase and larger tires kind of go against the performance aspect of the company.

how long do you think it will take before your right ankle catches fire while riding? that bike come with asbestos pants?

Also where is the gas tank  ???

I bet you that thing can only make it to the local starbucks before it needs a refill.

it looks like a motorcycle doing an impression of a greyhound stretching.

Quote from: Speeddog on November 07, 2008, 10:01:00 PM
Seat looks comfy.  [thumbsup]

It'd help a lot if they hacked about 9" out of that swingarm.

They forgot to mention........It's the hillclimb model

Quote from: redxblack on November 08, 2008, 08:31:18 AM
it looks like a motorcycle doing an impression of a greyhound stretching.

LMAO! It does!

I still think that the engineering of the bike is incredible. But it's too bad that riding it looks to be a nightmare. I suppose if you have over $100K to spend on a bike like this, riding it isn't your first priority.

I much prefer the original Wraith over this thing.. Im assuming this bike isnt gonna take its place.

Quote from: dutchy73 on November 08, 2008, 09:21:48 AM
I still think that the engineering of the bike is incredible. But it's too bad that riding it looks to be a nightmare. I suppose if you have over $100K to spend on a bike like this, riding it isn't your first priority.

if it's not really made to be ridden, where does the "engineering" come into play?  these guys try so hard to be different, they forget that motorcycles are supposed to have a rider on them

Quote from: ROBsS4R on November 08, 2008, 04:52:36 AM
Also where is the gas tank  ???

I bet you that thing can only make it to the local starbucks before it needs a refill.

This 'motorcycle' has been purposely designed for visiting starbucks  ;D

Quote from: dutchy73 on November 08, 2008, 09:21:48 AM
I still think that the engineering of the bike is incredible. But it's too bad that riding it looks to be a nightmare. I suppose if you have over $100K to spend on a bike like this, riding it isn't your first priority.

Form follows function. Being different is not a function.

^^^^^^^^^^^  +1

The Wraith is much better.
Looks like they spent all the time on the front of the bike and ran out of time and ideas towards the back

Quote from: lawbreaker on November 08, 2008, 09:25:22 AM
I much prefer the original Wraith over this thing.. Im assuming this bike isnt gonna take its place.

They still make the Wraith as well as the Hellcat Combat.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/wraith-01.jpg)

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/HellcatCombat.jpg)

Oh yeah and noboby has mentioned the name yet, "Fighter". Coincidence, or was Ducati down here in AL on a field trip at the Mercedes plant?

I was over in New Orleans the summer of 2005 for the week before the big wind and flood hit and walked down the Confederate "factory" for a visit. I think they were over on S. Carrollton St. a few blocks off Canal St. They were all good people and I enjoyed the visit.  Matt Chamberrs and maybe 6 other people were up front and one well tattooed assembler/builder putting together a Hellcat in the back.  The factory was more like a very big single stall garage, but with a very tall 40 foot tall ceiling.  I got to pick up all the parts of the bike, hold em in my hands and get a good look - pretty cool stuff.

I did get a laugh when Mr. Chambers was telling me about the Wrath that was about to be available.  He was evidently proud of the bike and told me it weighed 390 lbs. and put out 120 HP.  He ask how much my Ducati weighted, I don't think he really knew what an S4R was, and I said 390 bls. and puts out 120 HP.  I ask how much the Wrath sold for and it was something like $62k. He ask how much my bike was and I told him I paid $10,500 for it with less than 1000 mi. on it.  He couldn't hide his surprise.

LA

Why do they make the "Forks" like that?  Is there any design advantages or do that make it look like shit and so far form conventional that it tricks other people into thinking it is cool (because it is not conventional).  If it is designed to be superior, then I understand the "function over form" side of it.

Again, what is the reason for the "forks" to look like that.  It dont look like it works.

Quote from: OwnyTony on November 08, 2008, 02:19:47 PM
Again, what is the reason for the "forks" to look like that.  It dont look like it works.

As a guess, it's part function, but mostly form.  A large, thin walled carbon airfoil should be very strong and light.  By moving in unison on a leveraged spring, you lose any  flexion. 

But, I'm sure it's based mostly on their personal aesthetic.

Quote from: OwnyTony on November 08, 2008, 02:19:47 PM
Why do they make the "Forks" like that?  Is there any design advantages or do that make it look like shit and so far form conventional that it tricks other people into thinking it is cool (because it is not conventional).  If it is designed to be superior, then I understand the "function over form" side of it.

Again, what is the reason for the "forks" to look like that.  It dont look like it works.

I will look into the function but Im sure form played a great factor in choosing this type of girder fork. The Wraith is based on a design concept of a series of circles and intersecting lines. That's where they were first developed and were carried over to the Fighter.

(http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Confederate_Wraith_DDesign.jpg)     (http://www.asl-testsite.co.uk/motors/new/Confederate-B91-Wraith-2006.jpg)

I'd rather have the girl

Quote from: Bbrent on November 08, 2008, 04:14:09 PM
I'd rather have the girl

You can't easily sell the girl to get a D16-you could probably sell the bike to do so.



Then you'd get more wimmenz!

Quote from: Bbrent on November 08, 2008, 04:14:09 PM
I'd rather have the girl

If you have the coin for a Confederate, you can have your pick.  [evil]

the conferate bikes no doublt are very well engineered and use exotic and cool materials, etc.

but from an aesthetic point of view, personally they are too much of an industrial look.

love all their bikes!! 

Confederate is cool IMO since they are a custom bike maker that don't merely through off the shelf parts at a prebuilt frame and call it a "Custom".  <cough><cough> OCC <cough><cough>

Two thing I'd like to know, will it go around a corner. Has anyone ever tested one of those bikes or do they just sell because of the price tag, ie they must be good look how much they cost.
Don

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_n3SKs6FZw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_n3SKs6FZw)

wow surprised they are still in business! I saw their bikes in Daytona one year and was not impressed at all. For 100K you'd expect superb craftmanship not backyard mechanics. I test rode a hellcat with the S&S motor...not to mention Mr. Chambers being an arrogant ass.

Quote from: KARNYC on November 13, 2008, 07:49:02 PM
wow surprised they are still in business! I saw their bikes in Daytona one year and was not impressed at all. For 100K you'd expect superb craftmanship not backyard mechanics. I test rode a hellcat with the S&S motor...not to mention Mr. Chambers being an arrogant ass.

But he has always spoken so highly of your customs.

The Wraith actually looks pretty cool in that video.  [thumbsup]

I like that Wraith. What's the music on the video?

-Ferg

If I was looking for John Connor that's what I would ride. I wouldn't pay for it either. "Give me your Bike & your clothes"  [evil]

Quote from: Fergus on November 14, 2008, 12:31:01 PM
I like that Wraith. What's the music on the video?

-Ferg

I believe it is a band called Muse

Quote from: kopfjager on November 13, 2008, 08:41:14 PM
But he has always spoken so highly of your customs.

I'm sure he would If I handed him 100k....but if you see him please ask him to return (ADM) my property, he'll know what it means.

Quote from: ROBsS4R on November 08, 2008, 04:52:36 AM
Also where is the gas tank  ???

I bet you that thing can only make it to the local starbucks before it needs a refill.

how much gas could that tank hold?  two gallons?  Unless there's somewhere else to hold gas that we can't see.

Quote from: KARNYC on November 14, 2008, 06:33:11 PM
I'm sure he would If I handed him 100k....but if you see him please ask him to return (ADM) my property, he'll know what it means.

If you have an issue with him, take care of it yourself. I'm not your chogie-boy.  [roll]

Quote from: kopfjager on November 15, 2008, 09:54:47 AM
If you have an issue with him, take care of it yourself. I'm not your chogie-boy.  [roll]

hahahahah good one! I already did. now let's get back to Duc's.