The ones I'm looking at now are the Rizoma reverse retro bar end mirrors. However, the reason why I'm considering bar end mirrors is to improve visibility over the stock mirrors. I've heard that the Rizomas might actually give me less visibility.
Accordingly, if you have any recommendations for bar end mirrors that would improve visibility- I'm all ears :)
Quote from: Rambler1982 on November 18, 2008, 06:29:29 AM
The ones I'm looking at now are the Rizoma reverse retro bar end mirrors. However, the reason why I'm considering bar end mirrors is to improve visibility over the stock mirrors. I've heard that the Rizomas might actually give me less visibility.
Accordingly, if you have any recommendations for bar end mirrors that would improve visibility- I'm all ears :)
I like the Rizomas too but went with the crg because I liked the look and the price. I did have the opportunity to sit on a triumph with mirrors similar to the Rizoma and they seemed to give good visibility, but I didn't take it out on the road.
the rizomas give good visibility due to the placement of the mirrors. much better than stock in my opinion. even though the mirrors are smaller...
Quote from: Rambler1982 on November 18, 2008, 06:29:29 AM
The ones I'm looking at now are the Rizoma reverse retro bar end mirrors. However, the reason why I'm considering bar end mirrors is to improve visibility over the stock mirrors. I've heard that the Rizomas might actually give me less visibility.
Accordingly, if you have any recommendations for bar end mirrors that would improve visibility- I'm all ears :)
I have CRG lane splitters - awesome visibility. Can't comment at all on the Rizomas. Just had my first bike drop this weekend (stupid gravity making the bike roll off the kickstand - zero mph drop) and the CRG folded in per the design thereby saving itself from being crushed. So based on that I'd really recommend the lane splitters if you do go with the CRG's. Don't pay $80 for mirrors that are hard-mounted outside of the bar end cause it will be easy to break them in a drop.
I've seen a lot of comments from people who seem to like the bicycle mirrors ($10-15) from Cat Eye or 3rd Eye cause they're cheap to buy and cheap to replace.
+1 on the CRG's - lots of adjustability and great visibility. I bought my bike after the previous owner dropped it. The housing survived with a few scratches but the glass was gone. I think I paid $8 for a replacement mirror.
Are the Oberons any good? I have heard they aren't convex and are not very usefull.
I love the CRG Hindsight LS mirrors. Well worth the cost and safety factor.
Quote from: flanman on November 18, 2008, 12:49:35 PM
Are the Oberons any good? I have heard they aren't convex and are not very usefull.
I have the 75mm convex Oberons.
I love them.
I think the disign is a bit more elegant than the CRGs. A bunch more money, but I really like mine a lot. Visibility is fantastic.
Had CRG's on my Monster. They were pretty good. Being convex does a lot to make up for being 2" in diameter.
My Sport 1000 has Napoleons. MUCH better view. Being an extra 3-4" out front makes a lot of difference. Very adjustable, stay where you put them, and take a beating. Survived a 50 mph crash into a sandy ditch with a few scratches on the base and a few tiny pits in the glass. Oh, and they're only $30 each.
+1 CRG LS mirrors. During tight lane splitting, they fold. If your bike falls, they fold. Yah, I'm sold on them. I can't comment on other mirrors, though.
crg hindsight "lane split" bar ends.
+1 on CRG's Lane Split bar ends! [thumbsup]
Celli
If you are split between the CRG lane splitters and the Rizoma reverse retros expect to spend around $200 to $250 for both. That's including bar end sliders if you haven't already gotten them yet. Like others have said, the CRG's have their advantage.. convex, folds-in, and cheaper than the Rizoma's. Just remember if you go with the Rizoma's you need to get their sliders as well. Their mirrors are expensive but their sliders are pretty cheap.
Quote from: Takster on November 18, 2008, 01:49:07 PM
I have the 75mm convex Oberons.
I love them.
I think the disign is a bit more elegant than the CRGs. A bunch more money, but I really like mine a lot. Visibility is fantastic.
I have the sames and like a lot. As Takster wrote "Visibility is fantastic" [thumbsup]
(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9309/dsc01861jt0.jpg)
Quote from: Sleeper_I on November 19, 2008, 01:28:27 AM
...if you go with the Rizoma's you need to get their sliders as well. ....
That's not true. I have the Motovation sliders.
Napoleon bar end mirrors. They're much bigger than any of the other bar ends and are on little arms so you can put them in pretty much any position you want. They're also incredibly sturdy and make good bar weights to cut down on vibrations. If you do happen to drop the bike as long as you can get the bolt out you just have to go to your local bolt store for a replacement as long as you can live with the scratches, it will still work just fine.
Quote from: Takster on November 19, 2008, 06:18:40 AM
That's not true. I have the Motovation sliders.
no he means if you get the rizoma mirrors you have to get the rizoma bar ends to fit the mirrors...
Quote from: mrplease on November 19, 2008, 08:24:46 AM
no he means if you get the rizoma mirrors you have to get the rizoma bar ends to fit the mirrors...
I'm confused... What I'm saying is that I have the rizoma mirrors and motovation bar ends / sliders. I know Rizoma makes an integrated bar end and mirror... like the ones that pjfa has, but mine look like this:
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/IMG_1177.jpg)
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/IMG_1172.jpg)
I mentioned this in another thread.
696 owners, I am pretty sure you can
have your stock mirrors replaced
on the house sort of. My dealer says
DNA knows the mirrors stink on ice,
and they were given permission to
credit me $87 per mirror towards
the purchase of new ones. I got the
CRG's for $90ea at the dealer.
Best thing to do is call your Dealer and
tell them "your mirrors broke off
at the base" that is the weak spot
of the mirror. Tell them what a crappy
design it is, and that you would like to
talk to the local Ducati Rep about it.
The metal piece that the bolt slides through
pops out of the plastic. Happened twice on mine.
One my fault, the other it just fell apart
from mashing it down to keep it in place.
I did not yell, scream, or even talk to the Rep.
As soon as I mentioned him or her they told
me about the approved swapping. [popcorn]
No BS
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/superjohn_rtp/P1000195.jpg)
I like the Rizoma's. The visibility is fine, though I can't remember if they're better than stock or not.
Quote from: mrplease on November 19, 2008, 08:24:46 AM
no he means if you get the rizoma mirrors you have to get the rizoma bar ends to fit the mirrors...
the reverse retros (and I assume all rizoma barend mirrors) come w/a variety of sleeves to accomidate different dia bar ends.
I had decent visibility w/my stock mirrors. the retros are nice, I just had to get used to looking at them, but provide adequate view for me, anyway.
but... being pretty and billet.... it kinda sucks when you drop your bike in a gravel lot :(
Napoleons offer great visibility, I've had them before. I currently have the Third Eye bicycle bar end mirrors. They rock! Not the fanciest looking mirrors but they offer really good visibility with just a light convex and are very small and unobtrusive. The other bonus is that they only cost about $15 each.
Scott
I've got the Rizoma Reverse Retro mirrors on my S4Rs and I love them; adore them, actually. They're vastly better than the stockers, though they're not quite as small. Bone solid, great optics, look simply incredible, and they have this really cool subtle blue tint that totally cuts down on the glare. I've got them adjusted so that they're basically an extension of my peripheral vision, and they don't interfere with the grips at all. On Ducatis, you'll need the Rizoma bar-ends to get the mirrors to fit, but they're a snap to install. I bought mine from PJ's Parts, who I highly recommend. Cheers.
Quote from: Takster on November 19, 2008, 10:53:11 AM
I'm confused... What I'm saying is that I have the rizoma mirrors and motovation bar ends / sliders. I know Rizoma makes an integrated bar end and mirror... like the ones that pjfa has, but mine look like this:
Hey Takster, I've just ordered the same bar-ends, and am on the way to ordering the Oberon mirrors when I realized they come in 2 clamp sizes. Did you get the 7/8" or the 1" version? That oughta match the diameter of the mirror slot on the slider after you remove the anodized ring.
I've got he Motovation Barend Sliders and the Motrax Mini Reversable. The Motrax are an exact copy of the the Rizoma Retro Reversibles. for half the price A set of Motrax costs just over half the price of one Rizoma and no branding.
I'm using the http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myProducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=605%7CLighting%2C%20Turn%20Signals%2C%20%26%20Mirrors&productID=8135&showDetail=1&categoryID=608 (http://[url=http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myProducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=605%7CLighting%2C%20Turn%20Signals%2C%20%26%20Mirrors&productID=8135&showDetail=1&categoryID=608)|Mirrors&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=605%7CLighting%2C%20Turn%20Signals%2C%20%26%20Mirrors]CRG Arrow Mirror [/url] on my Sport Classic
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/CRG/DSC04093.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/CRG/DSC04096.jpg)
I'm using some $20 CRG knock-offs I got from CycleGear. I've seen the CRGs in person and there is very little difference in quality. They don't fold like the lane splitters but the visibility is the same. For $160 total saved, I can live without the CNC "CRG" on the back.
Quote from: DCXCV on November 18, 2008, 09:43:44 AM
I have CRG lane splitters - awesome visibility. Can't comment at all on the Rizomas. Just had my first bike drop this weekend (stupid gravity making the bike roll off the kickstand - zero mph drop) and the CRG folded in per the design thereby saving itself from being crushed. So based on that I'd really recommend the lane splitters if you do go with the CRG's. Don't pay $80 for mirrors that are hard-mounted outside of the bar end cause it will be easy to break them in a drop.
I've seen a lot of comments from people who seem to like the bicycle mirrors ($10-15) from Cat Eye or 3rd Eye cause they're cheap to buy and cheap to replace.
I got the third eye mirrors for cost reasons and to try out bar ends and they are great. Absolutely no vibration at hign and low speeds.
I got some $12 after shipping mirrors on fleabay to see if I liked them before I sunk money into the CRG lane splitters and they work great. I still want the lane splitters, and really dig bar ends, but for $12 the mirrors are awesome. Been up to about 90mph and no vibration or movement of the mirrors, and the field of view rearward is improved 100% from oem.
Quote from: ChrisH on August 31, 2010, 09:14:34 AM
I got some $12 after shipping mirrors on fleabay to see if I liked them before I sunk money into the CRG lane splitters and they work great. I still want the lane splitters, and really dig bar ends, but for $12 the mirrors are awesome. Been up to about 90mph and no vibration or movement of the mirrors, and the field of view rearward is improved 100% from oem.
I did the same thing - my mirrors where $18 shipped from this seller:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250683376643 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250683376643)
After mounting them and taking them for a spin I think I will pass on the CRGs -
(http://i54.tinypic.com/nphmdv.jpg)
I've got the Rizoma "class retros" on mine. But they are mounted on opposite handlebars and upside down, so they are below the handlebars and inward instead of outward.... It takes a little bit of effort to actually look down at them, isn't just a quick glance, but it looks a little different and they work well enough. I don't have any bar ends for them and they work just fine.
Does anyone have experience with these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280548544284&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280548544284&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT)
One of the trim bits fell off the right mirror on my ST2, and I'm thinking of going to bar ends instead of stockers.
Quote from: triangleforge on September 12, 2010, 10:31:21 AM
Does anyone have experience with these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280548544284&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280548544284&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT)
One of the trim bits fell off the right mirror on my ST2, and I'm thinking of going to bar ends instead of stockers.
I just installed these on my M750. Check out this post for pic. http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=42287.msg759914#msg759914 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=42287.msg759914#msg759914)
Quote from: speedknot on September 12, 2010, 04:58:35 PM
I just installed these on my M750. Check out this post for pic. http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=42287.msg759914#msg759914 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=42287.msg759914#msg759914)
Those look really good -- thanks for the reply! What kind of view toward the back do you get from them?
I like the look of the CRG Arrows, turned in like this:
(http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/images/MVAM01_06.jpg)
Nice. I like that. Hadn't seen those before.