Title: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: Spidey on November 19, 2008, 03:18:32 PM Colin was never one for mincing words. [laugh]
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/19112008/58/tech-3-stars-war-crew-chief.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/19112008/58/tech-3-stars-war-crew-chief.html) Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: tufty on November 19, 2008, 05:54:48 PM Colin is out next year regardless, JT wants another couple of seasons. If the boss didn't want this he would have stopped it. Much, much weirder crap has happened in MotoGP in just the last couple of seasons.
I'm a little surprised how badly #5 is taking it though. C'est la vie, Tech3 ;D Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: gm2 on November 19, 2008, 05:57:42 PM maybe he thinks both he and his new crew chief will be gone mid-year sometime... [evil]
Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: ducpainter on November 19, 2008, 06:25:56 PM maybe he thinks both he and his new crew chief will be gone mid-year sometime... [evil] Replacement suggestions?Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: gm2 on November 19, 2008, 06:28:26 PM Replacement suggestions? there's been a (what would seem to be highly unlikely) rumor about that if ben spies kicks wsbk ass from the get go, and if colin rides like colin, they would switch series mid-year Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: ducpainter on November 19, 2008, 06:41:22 PM there's been a (what would seem to be highly unlikely) rumor about that if ben spies kicks wsbk ass from the get go, and if colin rides like colin, they would switch series mid-year Sometimes change is good.It's like the chase... when you're after a woman. The chasing is awesome... the catching?.... :-\ [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: Big Troubled Bear on November 20, 2008, 02:24:38 AM Never really been a Toseland fan, now I think he is an asshole [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: zooom on November 20, 2008, 05:24:00 AM there's been a (what would seem to be highly unlikely) rumor about that if ben spies kicks wsbk ass from the get go, and if colin rides like colin, they would switch series mid-year due to the money put into constructors championships and the money and marketing potential of a bike ridden by a WSBK champ...I find this highly unlikely...the more championships a machine has, the higher the credibility and sales potential...just a point blank fact...and also out the window of spending goes a certain level of individual development for each rider in terms of the machinery too...in both series, so I find that it would be a waste of a lot of cash if that were to happen... using his WSBK year to groom and prep for a move into GP for 2010 seems a much more likely and probably prospect IMHO... Never really been a Toseland fan, now I think he is an asshole [thumbsup] I don't think he is an asshole...I do think it was a dick move for sure...but he is looking long term down the road and it is common for riders to drag an engineer/crew chief around with them long term if they bond and gel together...look at Rossi with Burgess, or Spies taking Houseworth with him, or Bayliss with Marinelli...this is the inner core essence of a team...JT didn't have it before and he wasn't gonna be able to pry Ronald Ten Kate's crew away from his own Honda WSBK efforts and due to a certain level of bouncing he has done from various teams...2 years with Ducati...2 years with Honda...now a 2 year deal halfway through with Yamaha in the premiere class and he is getting older and wiser and thinking more long term...I look at as another stage of development for him...developing a team core relationship with someone he can communicate with and get his bike properly/comfortably set to hang it all out... Colin on the other hand has publicly wavered about his future and where he wants to go and what he wants to do for a couple years now...he has been all over the place...but I think he brought Reynders down with him from Factory to Satelite team after developing a relationship and level of communication....but just as easily in this whole deal...Reynders could have said no thank you...so he could be looked at as just as much of a dick...but he is also looking long term... Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: gm2 on November 20, 2008, 09:51:19 AM due to the money put into constructors championships and the money and marketing potential of a bike ridden by a WSBK champ...I find this highly unlikely...the more championships a machine has, the higher the credibility and sales potential...just a point blank fact...and also out the window of spending goes a certain level of individual development for each rider in terms of the machinery too...in both series, so I find that it would be a waste of a lot of cash if that were to happen... using his WSBK year to groom and prep for a move into GP for 2010 seems a much more likely and probably prospect IMHO... well yeah.. i did say i thought it was highly unlikely. ;) not to mention the fact that yamaha motor italia and the factory yamaha motogp teams are very different entities. granted it's all yamaha, but that level of all-for-one has never happened before. Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: zooom on November 20, 2008, 12:54:16 PM not to mention the fact that yamaha motor italia and the factory yamaha motogp teams are very different entities. granted it's all yamaha, but that level of all-for-one has never happened before. There have been more than a sparse person here or there that have said that the Yamaha Motor Italia and the Tech III team have some shared ties that would allow for Spies to later use to move/transition into MotoGP.....so that aspect of things isn't so far fetched... Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: Capo on November 20, 2008, 02:03:25 PM It's winter, the media needs copy.
Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: Spidey on November 20, 2008, 02:04:33 PM It's winter, the media needs copy. If Toseland took Edward's crew chief in the middle of the season, they'd cover it then too. Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: androgynous on November 20, 2008, 02:33:41 PM so who's going too be Edwards crew chief ?!?!
Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: gm2 on November 20, 2008, 03:28:43 PM so who's going too be Edwards crew chief ?!?! some ex-Michelin guy. [cheeky] Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: Xiphias on November 20, 2008, 06:02:30 PM Wow...its too bad JT is such an ass-tampon
Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: androgynous on November 20, 2008, 07:54:11 PM Wow...its too bad JT is such an ass-tampon [laugh] [clap] Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: zooom on November 21, 2008, 06:43:17 AM Wow...its too bad JT is such an ass-tampon wouldn't that be more properly a limp butt plug? Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: desmoquattro on November 21, 2008, 08:28:18 AM wouldn't that be more properly a limp butt plug? A limp and absorbent butt plug. Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: Desmostro on November 22, 2008, 06:13:35 PM A limp and absorbent butt plug. I just think there would have been a way to do that not so limp-dick. Behind the back + big surprise = manipulative biatch. Tosser will have the new carbon fiber triple dipple butt plug for 09. Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: derby on November 24, 2008, 11:21:23 AM http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Nov/081124a02.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Nov/081124a02.htm)
Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: Capo on November 24, 2008, 02:36:04 PM if Toesland reads that he may want to change his mind ;D
Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: Spidey on November 24, 2008, 02:59:49 PM I'm normally not conspiratorial or nuttin', but that article kinda read like a press release designed by Tech3 to defuse the situation. We'll see if those two are talking to one another next year.
Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: zooom on November 25, 2008, 05:15:15 AM We'll see if those two are talking to one another next year. or what the results come to be at the end of each race.... Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: tufty on November 25, 2008, 05:48:27 AM Geez!!
Colin has had his shot, give the resources to someone else. If JT were Ben Spies, you lot would be giggling like school girls at the anticipation of Ben getting all the help he needed. [bow_down] Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: gm2 on November 29, 2008, 07:17:02 PM http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/news/172243-0/edwards__crew_chief_is_'borderline_genius'.html (http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/news/172243-0/edwards__crew_chief_is_'borderline_genius'.html)
Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: swampduc on December 10, 2008, 08:35:43 PM Geez!! That's completely different. Spies is American ;DColin has had his shot, give the resources to someone else. If JT were Ben Spies, you lot would be giggling like school girls at the anticipation of Ben getting all the help he needed. [bow_down] Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: gm2 on December 15, 2008, 03:51:30 PM Colin took out a full page thank-you-for-'08 ad in the new (Jan/Feb '09) issue of RRX. He refers to this thing.. in a very, um, Colin way.
[laugh] [laugh] Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: fasterblkduc on December 16, 2008, 06:16:53 AM Colin took out a full page thank-you-for-'08 ad in the new (Jan/Feb '09) issue of RRX. He refers to this thing.. in a very, um, Colin way. [laugh] [laugh] I saw that. It was funny. It reads like a thank you add but you have to read the *note. [laugh] Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: tufty on December 16, 2008, 06:20:18 AM Colin took out a full page thank-you-for-'08 ad in the new (Jan/Feb '09) issue of RRX. He refers to this thing.. in a very, um, Colin way. [laugh] [laugh] I wonder who the "1 exception" is though? JT or Gary Reynders? Title: Re: Toseland/Edwards spat Post by: gm2 on December 16, 2008, 07:10:56 AM it says "...thanks to my immediate crew*;...." so it's gotta be the latter.
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