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Title: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on November 28, 2008, 09:23:38 AM
OK, so I have a line on some brand new Sato's at a very good price but have heard thru the grapevine that Speedymoto has a new design for Monsters coming out by Jan. No pics are available for anything other than the 1098 ver.

On to the questions:

1. Are Sato's really all they are made out to be? They have only 4 positions/positioning combo adjustments...
2. The new SM's have a new dual-eccentric adjuster, said to be $600, would you wait based on SM's reputation only?


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: vwboomer on November 29, 2008, 09:47:21 AM
Probly comes down to just how good your price on the Sato set is. I tend towards the cheaper things if there's not much difference. I paid 550 for mine a year ago and have  been happy with them. nicely made units.


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: jesse370 on November 29, 2008, 01:01:20 PM
The Sato's are nice. The proto-type pictures of the SM rearsets are incredible.

IF you can wait and can afford them I would go speedy, but thats just me.


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: squidwood on November 29, 2008, 03:52:28 PM
I would wait for a bit........as.............My bike is at Speedymoto as we speak getting more super secret prototyping stuff for monsters done.
I'll let you guys know whats what when I get the nod.
Pics when I get the nod as usual.


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: skxf430 on November 29, 2008, 09:32:27 PM
Squidwood,

Do you know of if the Speedymotos will offer a setting that is lower and back compared with the Sato's?  I have the Satos now but the ony adjustments are back and higher from the stock pegs.  It makes for an agressive riding position but makes it a little more cramped for the legs.


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on November 30, 2008, 08:37:11 AM
Squidwood,

Do you know of if the Speedymotos will offer a setting that is lower and back compared with the Sato's?  I have the Satos now but the ony adjustments are back and higher from the stock pegs.  It makes for an agressive riding position but makes it a little more cramped for the legs.

My exact point! And is there any more of a to-the-point hint of an ETA?


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: squidwood on November 30, 2008, 10:22:18 AM
as far as eta ,don't know yet. Prototyping takes time and they are running a business that still has parts to make to fulfill orders placed by their many outlets/dealers. I'll know a bit more later in the week.


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: newrider on December 01, 2008, 07:19:35 AM
what about the Rizoma rear sets? anyone using these,  they seem to have heaps of adjustment.
I to have been trying to decide which rear sets to get for my 2000 900ieS


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: chris@motorcyclewishlist on December 01, 2008, 08:10:55 AM
We will be selling the Speedy Moto rearsets. I already have a few orders for them for the S4r and 1098. I spoke with Christian a few weeks ago and he told me that the S4R rearsets will be ready around Christmas or the 1st of the year. I did look at the prototypes at Indy and was very impressed. I think the design is as good if not better than what we had when I was at Cycle Cat. I do think that they are the best looking rearset on the market. If you want a set let me know.
Please don't forget to log on to www.motorcyclewishlist.com to create your wishlist. This is a sure fire way to get the bike stuff you want for Christmas.
Ride safe guys!

Chris


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hydra on December 01, 2008, 11:22:14 AM
hey chris,

i would totally be interested in a SM set for an S4 with high mounted exhaust. will SM be making them for my bike? maybe sometime next year?


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: chris@motorcyclewishlist on December 02, 2008, 03:43:34 PM
I am not sure. The S4, as I recall used a standard Cycle Cat M900 frame bracket. It has been a while. I will ask the SM guys or they can post here when they see this. I know the priority was on the 1098 and the S4RS. I do not know what they were planning on next. If it were my decision I would build the late model SS and the Sport Classic since Cycle Cat never addressed these products and they are the same fitment. Looking at the SM design, there may be problems doing all of the fitments because of the way the arms work unless they use some kind of bracket. We shall see. What they have done so far looks great.


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 05, 2008, 08:37:17 AM
I had heard they were gonna make some and went and checked their site, but alas, only for the 1098.

http://www.constructorsrg.com/rearsets/index.html#


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: DucSteve on December 08, 2008, 02:52:51 PM
Got my Sato's from that groupbuy that went bad. Were $460 shipped, hard to beat, course we ended up waiting a few months to get them. Raised pegs up and back compared to stock and feel good now, I doubt I'd need any more adjust ability.


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 09, 2008, 06:14:05 AM
Got my Sato's from that groupbuy that went bad. Were $460 shipped, hard to beat, course we ended up waiting a few months to get them. Raised pegs up and back compared to stock and feel good now, I doubt I'd need any more adjust ability.

You got pics?  ;D Also, IIRRC, there was an issue with the right unit (footpeg) being higher than the left when mounted. Can you confirm or debunct?


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: DucSteve on December 11, 2008, 04:43:24 PM
This is the most current shot i have of it. bike is dirty as hell, and the pipes starting to get a weird color change on the lower muffler ???

(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/sfrancis1000/Ride%2012-5-08/DSC_0269.jpg?t=1229042057)


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 12, 2008, 06:49:51 AM
This is the most current shot i have of it. bike is dirty as hell, and the pipes starting to get a weird color change on the lower muffler ???

(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/sfrancis1000/Ride%2012-5-08/DSC_0269.jpg?t=1229042057)

Thanks, any chance you could send a hi-res to hypurone at comcast dot net?  And did you notice if the right side felt/measured higher than the left?


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: DucSteve on December 12, 2008, 12:43:19 PM
looks to be a rainy weekend in california, so i'll probably spend some time cleaning up bike for once. i'll try to remember and take some shots, maybe measure heights too. doesnt feel off though... these are monster s*r rearsets version 2 which fixed a few problems from original design i believe.


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: DucSteve on December 13, 2008, 12:59:29 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3282/3104883733_92414915a5_b.jpg)

Haven't bothered to measure it yet, but I really can't feel it being lopsided, so I think they are good to go [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 14, 2008, 08:26:24 AM
Awesome man, thanks! Your pipes are diff than mine but I'll still ask, did these rearsets make your heel hit the guards more or less or the same?


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: DucSteve on December 14, 2008, 08:20:57 PM
I put that exhaust heatshield on when i had stock footpegs, i have the melted boots to prove it. My heel still will rub up against the heatshield, probably same as stock


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: fastwin on December 15, 2008, 07:24:53 PM
OK, this is sort of worthless, I apologize for that, but my only experience with Sato rearsets is on my Jap Duc (Hayden Replica RC51). I'm covered up with Ducs but none have rearsets. I know Dan Kyle and have purchased all of my Ohlins and Sato crap through him. Great guy. I wanted RC51 rearsets that would come as close to the stock position as possible. Just wanted fixed pegs and Satos were the answer. I thought. I have Sato low mount (standard position) Ti cans and mid pipes. You'd think that Sato would know that their rear sets and pipes don't get along that well? I could not get the pegs and shifter mounted anywhere near the stock position due to the shifter hitting the mid pipe hard when pushing down into first in the lowest position. Since I didn't want to beat the s#@t out of my left side mid pipe I had to move the pegs up and back much more than I wanted. Ugh. :P So much for the good idea. 

Still, a great product. Incredibly well made. Heck, really a work of art. Just disappointed that their "adjustable" footpegs don't work with their own pipes. At least on my Jap Duc. Major disappointment.

Again, sorry for the non Duc post but I do feel better that I got to complain! [laugh]


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 16, 2008, 06:43:30 AM
fastwin,

prob talking apples & oranges here but do you notice any irregularities in the pegs heights. positions between left to right?


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: fastwin on December 16, 2008, 10:52:29 AM
Yeah, you're right, apples and oranges. My RC51 issue really has nothing to do with the thread, more apologies are due. [bang] To answer your question: no, no difference, certainly up and back from stock but they are the same on both sides. Just a minor threadjack to say how awesome the Satos are, they belong in a glass case on the mantle, just disappointed I couldn't use the adjustability to suit my needs. End of threadjack! ;D


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 16, 2008, 11:38:52 AM
Yeah, you're right, apples and oranges. My RC51 issue really has nothing to do with the thread, more apologies are due. [bang] To answer your question: no, no difference, certainly up and back from stock but they are the same on both sides. Just a minor threadjack to say how awesome the Satos are, they belong in a glass case on the mantle, just disappointed I couldn't use the adjustability to suit my needs. End of threadjack! ;D

I don't think it was a threadjack at all. You have sato's and it's a valid post to see if there are cross-platform similarities etc. Thanks for the info and checking on the height diff....


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 25, 2008, 09:24:32 AM
I put that exhaust heatshield on when i had stock footpegs, i have the melted boots to prove it. My heel still will rub up against the heatshield, probably same as stock

Hey man, I decided to get the new Sato's I found! I am going to need a heel guard like you have installed on yours as my heel now misses the one I have!  :( If ya don;t mind divulging a trade secret, what is yours made from? Did you use a standard exhaust clamp to mount it? You mind taking a pic of the back of it so I could fab one of my own?

Thanks,
Chuck
PS Happy Holidays!


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: stopintime on December 25, 2008, 01:07:11 PM
I asked about the heelguards and was directed here:   

http://www.twobros.com/cgi-bin/shopper?preadd=action&key=005-812 (http://www.twobros.com/cgi-bin/shopper?preadd=action&key=005-812)


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 25, 2008, 04:57:02 PM
I asked about the heelguards and was directed here:   

http://www.twobros.com/cgi-bin/shopper?preadd=action&key=005-812 (http://www.twobros.com/cgi-bin/shopper?preadd=action&key=005-812)

Suhweet! Thanks!


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: stopintime on December 25, 2008, 05:16:13 PM
Suhweet! Thanks!

Had this one hidden somewhere too. Even suhweeter?  http://www.devilbikes.com/accessories_part.php


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 26, 2008, 06:14:13 AM
Had this one hidden somewhere too. Even suhweeter?  http://www.devilbikes.com/accessories_part.php

OH HELL YEAH! I got a CF addiction ya know....   [laugh]


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: Ivan on December 26, 2008, 07:45:03 AM

Quote
Had this one hidden somewhere too. Even suhweeter?  http://www.devilbikes.com/accessories_part.php



OH HELL YEAH! I got a CF addiction ya know....   [laugh]

If you buy that carbon unit, please let us know how it mounts.  It looks good, but there are not enough details...




Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 26, 2008, 09:27:36 AM


If you buy that carbon unit, please let us know how it mounts.  It looks good, but there are not enough details...

OH, I'm gonna buy it if it is still available.  ;D I called em, must have taken the day off.  >:( Waiting on them to call me back as their website ain't the greatest and I don't see a way to verify it is available or to buy online...  ???


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 26, 2008, 10:59:12 AM
Oh and for those of you following this thread and may be interested in looking at Sato rearsets:

I changed these pics to show after I painted the main attaching bolt and got it out in the sun...

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/hypurone/Monster%20S4RS/Sato%20Rearsets/Satos_painted2.jpg)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/hypurone/Monster%20S4RS/Sato%20Rearsets/Satos_painted3.jpg)

more pics after the jump, where you can see before the painted bolt:

http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/hypurone/Monster%20S4RS/Sato%20Rearsets/ (http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/hypurone/Monster%20S4RS/Sato%20Rearsets/)


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: stopintime on December 26, 2008, 11:11:31 AM
CF addiction? Then why not CF rotors, tank and seat cover?  ;D

I'm always happy when I see MonsterParts logos. You have "monster" on the inside of the exhaust hanger, right?
I have the eye from the logo on my belly pan [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 26, 2008, 11:21:32 AM
CF addiction? Then why not CF rotors, tank and seat cover?  ;D

I'm always happy when I see MonsterParts logos. You have "monster" on the inside of the exhaust hanger, right?
I have the eye from the logo on my belly pan [thumbsup]

To me, when the whole bike(or other vehicle you choose) is ALL CF, it loses something.  :P

You are correct! It is from the monsterparts sticker. I have the eyeball on my windscreen: [thumbsup]

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/hypurone/Monster%20S4RS/Newestw_Headlightetc2.jpg)   


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: CiroD on December 29, 2008, 06:24:54 PM
I just bought Rizoma rearsets as a christmas gift for myself from my wife. The look great and seem to have plenty of adjustments. Well made also. They cost me five and change and will be installed by myself in January. Check them out before you buy anything.


Title: Re: Rearsets -- Sato vs Speedymoto
Post by: hypurone on December 30, 2008, 07:52:27 AM
I just bought Rizoma rearsets as a christmas gift for myself from my wife. The look great and seem to have plenty of adjustments. Well made also. They cost me five and change and will be installed by myself in January. Check them out before you buy anything.

Ummm, too late! If you read a few posts up you will see I have the Sato's installed already.  [thumbsup] I checked the Rizoma's and they weren't my thing. Plus for 475.00 shipped and brand new, I couldn't pass it up...


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