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Title: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DrDesmo on November 29, 2008, 12:41:11 PM
If the S4RS isn't enough for you, Seacoast has a one-off S4R-R.  Personally i'm holding out for the S4R-RS Type R (Spec V), but check it out  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motorcycles___2008-Ducati-Monster-S4R-R-Seacoast-Special-1-of-1_W0QQitemZ350130330334QQddnZMotorcyclesQQddiZ2283QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item350130330334&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motorcycles___2008-Ducati-Monster-S4R-R-Seacoast-Special-1-of-1_W0QQitemZ350130330334QQddnZMotorcyclesQQddiZ2283QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item350130330334&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)

Adam
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: Statler on November 29, 2008, 01:37:42 PM
?


I can't figure out where the 23K went?  Stock footpegs so no adjustability.  Stock bars so no adjustability.    So pressure plate and cover, a steering damper and a few carbon goodies?  For 8K?

And it's pretty lame for anyone to call a bike an aftermarket R model with just a Termi kit and no internal motor work.


Sorry...I'm usually the last to comment negatively on pricey bikes, but having put about that much money into an RS I can tell you guys that for this much money you should have a rather light bike that fits you exactly and has a lot more done to it to change how it rides than this one.
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: Scottish on November 29, 2008, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: Statler on November 29, 2008, 01:37:42 PM
?


I can't figure out where the 23K went?  Stock footpegs so no adjustability.  Stock bars so no adjustability.    So pressure plate and cover, a steering damper and a few carbon goodies?  For 8K?

And it's pretty lame for anyone to call a bike an aftermarket R model with just a Termi kit and no internal motor work.


Sorry...I'm usually the last to comment negatively on pricey bikes, but having put about that much money into an RS I can tell you guys that for this much money you should have a rather light bike that fits you exactly and has a lot more done to it to change how it rides than this one.

Sorry but +1. I think I could do a lot more with a stock bike and 8k. It's some bolt on stuff and a paint job.... and not an overly impressive one at that.
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DucHead on November 29, 2008, 02:12:51 PM
+2  Yawn.  [coffee]
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DrDesmo on November 29, 2008, 03:13:30 PM
Quote from: pompetta on November 29, 2008, 02:12:51 PM
+2  Yawn.  [coffee]

I have to admit, it's not quite my cup of tea either.  I love the Seacoast guys (and Robbie's work) but ... Anyways, just thought I'd share   :)

Adam
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: Capo on November 29, 2008, 03:32:03 PM
Quote from: Statler on November 29, 2008, 01:37:42 PM

And it's pretty lame for anyone to call a bike an aftermarket R model with just a Termi kit and no internal motor work.


+1 there ought to be a law against it.
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: COWBOY on November 29, 2008, 04:28:07 PM
+11ty Billion Agreed.

As I started reading the description my mind flashed back to the bike that dealer put together that won the Monster challenge - had it on ebay for 25-30K if I recall.

Obvious difference being that bike was overhauled from top to bottom as opposed to the few bolt on mods of this bike.

Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: Statler on November 29, 2008, 04:46:41 PM
I have no problem with bolt-on goodies either.   One thing I like about the monster is the huge aftermarket of easy things to do.   Can change the riding position, the exhaust, etc.etc.

My bike is an example of bolt-on things that have big effects.

But as is they are missing many thousands of dollars of goodies for that price...even at retail for the aftermarket stuff.    That's what I don't get...and it's not like Monsters are the gt500 of the bike world that can get away with 'market adjustment' added to the price.   

I'd like to see an itemized list on this tricolor.
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: COWBOY on November 29, 2008, 06:32:50 PM
LOL.  I wasn't intending to start a bolt on mod thread.  Most of mine are too and like you it's what I love about the Monster "platform".

What I intended to contrast was the engine work, boring, suspension mods, etc of the previous dealers bike to this one with a termi kit, carbon tail, clutch plate, clutch cover, damper and paint job for a similarly high priced bike.

Hell what they've done to the bike is what most who buy one would do first as well.  Myself included.  We're just more realistic about selling our modded beasts knowing when we build them we'll never recoup those costs.
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: NAKID on November 29, 2008, 06:38:37 PM
Forget the price, how can they call this bike a "1 of 1" with just some bolt ons? That's like me trying to sell my bike and call it a "1 of 1" because of the changes I've made....
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DrDesmo on November 29, 2008, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: NAKID on November 29, 2008, 06:38:37 PM
Forget the price, how can they call this bike a "1 of 1" with just some bolt ons? That's like me trying to sell my bike and call it a "1 of 1" because of the changes I've made....

I was actually joking around about this with a friend ... Making little brass plaques for people's triples for their bikes "001 of 001"  ;D

Adam
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DoubleEagle on November 30, 2008, 12:31:54 AM
Have you seen the Ducati 848R yet ?

Ultimate MotorCycling has a write up on one that Ducati of North America has put out as an ultimate gift for Christmas.

" It's $39,980

It's got 134 hp, innovative crankcase.  MOTOGP elliptical throttle bodies, larger bore and stroke ratio more like a 1098.

Weighs 370 pounds . Doesn't say wet/dry ?

A competition -quality exhaust , a new rear subframe, Magnesium wheels, CF front fender, heels guards, and tail section ; billet gas cap, rearsets, and brake and clutch levers, Termi exhaust, and Ohlins suspension. "

Quote from John Paolo Canton , Ducati USA

No mention of TC or CF Belly pan like the 1098 R.

" This bike is for the rider who realizes the 1098 is just for bragging rights. The 848R is a street-able bike that delivers enormous pleasure and solid performance on the road and at the track." said John.

What do you think of that one ?   Dolph                                        ducatiusa.com          ultimatemotorcycling.com
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: Scottish on November 30, 2008, 09:51:05 AM
That one sounds hot..... and out of my price range....  :-\
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: dbran1949 on November 30, 2008, 11:38:47 AM
Looks like it started life as a tri-color. Then tank and cowl painted red

termis and ecu            $2,000
asorted bolt on bits      $2,000
paint job                     $1,000
dealer gets                  $3,000
=====================
                                  $8,000

BTW anyone know where to get the red hose pieces
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: geoffduc on November 30, 2008, 12:05:23 PM
Red hose pieces, look in the ducati  accessories catalogue, part no 96449006B  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: COWBOY on November 30, 2008, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: dbran1949 on November 30, 2008, 11:38:47 AM
Looks like it started life as a tri-color. Then tank and cowl painted red

termis and ecu            $2,000
asorted bolt on bits      $2,000
paint job                     $1,000
dealer gets                  $3,000
=====================
                                  $8,000

BTW anyone know where to get the red hose pieces
All prices MSRP from Duc Catalog.  Obviously being a dealer this is not what they actually put into it.

Termi kit                                        2643 50mm full system   1615 cans, air filter and diff ecu.
Short tail                                        415
Rear Hugger                                   249
Steering Damper                             687
Speedymoto pressure plate              224
"Custom" open clutch cover              200
DP Silic. hose kit                              200

Total with standard termi upgrade                3590         
Total with racing 50mm termi full system      4618

Paint job, Dealer profit, etc .... yawn, I don't know anyone who'd not negotiate most of that away on a new bike and on a used one it wouldn't factor at all.

For the extra 8k they're asking I could do the same mods plus carbon wheels, rear sets and a bunch of other bits.

My best offer would be 19000 OTD with the full system or 18000 OTD with the silencer kit.


As far as the hose kit

http://www.ducati.com/shop/product.jsp?_DARGS=/shop/search/droplets/ddd_boxproduct.jsp.1_A&_DAV=/shop/search/advsearch.jsp&catid=cat970103&prodid=prod800120&srch=true (http://www.ducati.com/shop/product.jsp?_DARGS=/shop/search/droplets/ddd_boxproduct.jsp.1_A&_DAV=/shop/search/advsearch.jsp&catid=cat970103&prodid=prod800120&srch=true)

available red or blue for 199 MSRP.

Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: dbran1949 on November 30, 2008, 01:02:13 PM
Quote from: COWBOY on November 30, 2008, 12:53:10 PM
Paint job, Dealer profit, etc .... yawn, I don't know anyone who'd not negotiate most of that away on a new bike and on a used one it wouldn't factor at all.

For the extra 8k they're asking I could do the same mods plus carbon wheels, rear sets and a bunch of other bits.

Agreed, but remember the dealers have a lot more overhead, and they have to eat a meal once in a while  ;D. (I am not a dealer but do own my own business [not motorcycle related])
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: Monstermash on November 30, 2008, 02:05:54 PM
I sent them an email. It read:

$23,000? ROFLMFAO!!!

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.



Isn't it a little early for them to be that heavy into the Eggnog?  [laugh]
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: NAKID on November 30, 2008, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: DoubleEagle on November 30, 2008, 12:31:54 AM
Have you seen the Ducati 848R yet ?

Ultimate MotorCycling has a write up on one that Ducati of North America has put out as an ultimate gift for Christmas.

" It's $39,980

It's got 134 hp, innovative crankcase.  MOTOGP elliptical throttle bodies, larger bore and stroke ratio more like a 1098.

Weighs 370 pounds . Doesn't say wet/dry ?

A competition -quality exhaust , a new rear subframe, Magnesium wheels, CF front fender, heels guards, and tail section ; billet gas cap, rearsets, and brake and clutch levers, Termi exhaust, and Ohlins suspension. "

Quote from John Paolo Canton , Ducati USA

No mention of TC or CF Belly pan like the 1098 R.

" This bike is for the rider who realizes the 1098 is just for bragging rights. The 848R is a street-able bike that delivers enormous pleasure and solid performance on the road and at the track." said John.

What do you think of that one ?   Dolph                                        ducatiusa.com          ultimatemotorcycling.com

Uhhh, there's something wrong here. A stock 848 is $13,999, has 134hp and is 369 dry.  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: herm on November 30, 2008, 06:24:07 PM
yah, but its a classic.......
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DoubleEagle on November 30, 2008, 08:44:26 PM
Quote from: NAKID on November 30, 2008, 02:47:26 PM
Uhhh, there's something wrong here. A stock 848 is $13,999, has 134hp and is 369 dry.  ??? ??? ???
Smoke and Mirrors  to me .   Dolph
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: duc996 on November 30, 2008, 09:21:23 PM
Sorry,but not for 23k. [coffee]
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DrDesmo on November 30, 2008, 09:24:34 PM
Looks like the offers were a bit ... " lighter " than expected...

http://offer.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=350130330334 (http://offer.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=350130330334)

Adam
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: Big Troubled Bear on December 01, 2008, 01:03:35 AM
No thank you, I like to do my own modding [thumbsup]
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: GLantern on December 01, 2008, 08:31:21 AM
Thats ridiculous but i think i am following their logic now.  Whats the MSRP on a tricolore?  I think they are counting the addons from that base price.  WHich is ridiculous because its not even a tricolore anymore!
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: fromario on December 01, 2008, 10:24:30 AM
yeah......... puff puff pass at that price.  I thought the tricolore was overpriced to begin with.

For that price can anyone say 1198S!?!?!?!   [moto]
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: Scottish on December 01, 2008, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: GLantern on December 01, 2008, 08:31:21 AM
Thats ridiculous but i think i am following their logic now.  Whats the MSRP on a tricolore?  I think they are counting the addons from that base price.  WHich is ridiculous because its not even a tricolore anymore!
In fairness it does have that going for it.... 
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DrDesmo on December 01, 2008, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: WannaDucBad on December 01, 2008, 10:40:51 AM
In fairness it does have that going for it.... 

[laugh]  [laugh]  [laugh]
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: desmopr on December 01, 2008, 07:07:45 PM
Much cheaper special edition Beverly Hills model:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motorcycles___DUCATI-MONSTER-900-LIMITED-EDITION-BEVERLY-HILLS-MODEL_W0QQitemZ250335289630QQddnZMotorcyclesQQddiZ2283QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item250335289630&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1308
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: COWBOY on December 01, 2008, 07:12:57 PM
Quote from: desmopr on December 01, 2008, 07:07:45 PM
Much cheaper special edition Beverly Hills model:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motorcycles___DUCATI-MONSTER-900-LIMITED-EDITION-BEVERLY-HILLS-MODEL_W0QQitemZ250335289630QQddnZMotorcyclesQQddiZ2283QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item250335289630&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1308


[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: GLantern on December 02, 2008, 04:37:50 AM
Quote from: desmopr on December 01, 2008, 07:07:45 PM
Much cheaper special edition Beverly Hills model:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motorcycles___DUCATI-MONSTER-900-LIMITED-EDITION-BEVERLY-HILLS-MODEL_W0QQitemZ250335289630QQddnZMotorcyclesQQddiZ2283QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item250335289630&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1308

[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DrDesmo on December 02, 2008, 06:20:34 AM
Quote from: fromario on December 01, 2008, 10:24:30 AM
For that price can anyone say 1198S!?!?!?!   [moto]

[evil]  ;D  [thumbsup]  [moto]

Adam

Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: din425 on December 02, 2008, 09:27:06 AM
There is no way that guy is gonna get 18k let alone 23k for that thing. I could see someone paying 15 for it if they had money burning hole in their pocket.
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: Monstermash on December 02, 2008, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: Monstermash on November 30, 2008, 02:05:54 PM
I sent them an email. It read:

$23,000? ROFLMFAO!!!

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.



Isn't it a little early for them to be that heavy into the Eggnog?  [laugh]

I received a response from them. It read:

"ROFLMFAO?? It wasn't that funny."


Yes, yes it was.

Dr. D and I actually saw that bike in person at the Seacoast open house two weeks ago. It isn't that impressive. I looked at it for about 30 seconds and I was already bored.

I don't think anyone else was that impressed with it either considering it was on display all night and no one really even looked at it at all.  [roll]
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: NAKID on December 02, 2008, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: desmopr on December 01, 2008, 07:07:45 PM
Much cheaper special edition Beverly Hills model:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motorcycles___DUCATI-MONSTER-900-LIMITED-EDITION-BEVERLY-HILLS-MODEL_W0QQitemZ250335289630QQddnZMotorcyclesQQddiZ2283QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item250335289630&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1308

OK, it says "Beverly Hills" above  "Ducati" and that makes it a special edition?   [roll]

Umm, also he has only ridden it 5 times, he's the only owner and it has 16,500 miles?

How does a 2001 with 16000 miles still have the factory warranty?

And last I checked, the bike came with Brembo brakes, so how is that an added "High End" item?

What a douche
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DrDesmo on December 02, 2008, 03:16:32 PM
Quote from: Monstermash on December 02, 2008, 01:39:26 PM
Dr. D and I actually saw that bike in person at the Seacoast open house two weeks ago. It isn't that impressive. I looked at it for about 30 seconds and I was already bored.

I, for one, can't get over the stock signals.  They look so horrid w/ that CF tail it's not even correct  [puke]

Adam
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: Scottish on December 02, 2008, 03:32:28 PM
Hey! I see it! It's the custom removed passenger rear-sets.
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: ghostface on December 02, 2008, 06:21:30 PM
Quote from: DrDesmosedici on November 29, 2008, 12:41:11 PM
If the S4RS isn't enough for you, Seacoast has a one-off S4R-R.  Personally i'm holding out for the S4R-RS Type R (Spec V), but check it out  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motorcycles___2008-Ducati-Monster-S4R-R-Seacoast-Special-1-of-1_W0QQitemZ350130330334QQddnZMotorcyclesQQddiZ2283QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item350130330334&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motorcycles___2008-Ducati-Monster-S4R-R-Seacoast-Special-1-of-1_W0QQitemZ350130330334QQddnZMotorcyclesQQddiZ2283QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item350130330334&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)

Adam
Boring. My buddy has a better built S4R. And to call it a RS Type R, WTF is  it an Integra?
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DrDesmo on December 02, 2008, 06:37:09 PM
Quote from: ghostface on December 02, 2008, 06:21:30 PM
WTF is  it an Integra?

[laugh] [laugh]

Adam



Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: Monstermash on December 02, 2008, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: DrDesmosedici on December 02, 2008, 06:37:09 PM
[laugh] [laugh]

Adam





Why are you laughing Subaru boy? You're the one who put gold wheels on a blue S4R!  [laugh]
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: supakpow2 on December 02, 2008, 08:23:58 PM
Quote from: NAKID on December 02, 2008, 03:09:48 PM
OK, it says "Beverly Hills" above  "Ducati" and that makes it a special edition?   [roll]

Umm, also he has only ridden it 5 times, he's the only owner and it has 16,500 miles?

How does a 2001 with 16000 miles still have the factory warranty?

And last I checked, the bike came with Brembo brakes, so how is that an added "High End" item?

What a douche

Yeah but it comes with a used helmet AND joe rocket jacket. ;D
probably rare special addition also. [roll]
Title: Re: $23,000 Seacoast S4R-R
Post by: DrDesmo on December 02, 2008, 08:30:47 PM
Quote from: Monstermash on December 02, 2008, 07:55:16 PM
Why are you laughing Subaru boy? You're the one who put gold wheels on a blue S4R!  [laugh]

Settle down Tomcolore, the Gold wheels never actually made it on the bike  ;D

Adam