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Title: religion gone wrong
Post by: pigmy on December 09, 2008, 04:55:57 AM
just saw a show on that jonestown thing. i just want to say this .....religion is wrong. you just cant curb a persons inner spirit.dont care what your beliefs are.
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Mother on December 09, 2008, 06:23:07 AM
well

in Jonestown it appears they curbed about a thousand of them...

:-\
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: pigmy on December 09, 2008, 06:33:43 AM
its the kids they waisted which bothered me.
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Mother on December 09, 2008, 06:45:00 AM
yeah i saw that in a couple of the pics

really really make the beast with two backsed up
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: KnightofNi on December 09, 2008, 07:25:20 AM
that wasn't religion. that was a megalomaniac brainwashing the masses using religion as a front.


for this to go further it needs to be moved into the religion/politics forum
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Oldfisti on December 09, 2008, 09:22:21 AM
Quote from: KnightofNi on December 09, 2008, 07:25:20 AM
that wasn't religion. that was a megalomaniac brainwashing the masses using religion as a front.


for this to go further it needs to be moved into the religion/politics forum


+1 for both
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on December 09, 2008, 10:02:13 AM
Quote from: KnightofNi on December 09, 2008, 07:25:20 AM
that wasn't religion. that was a megalomaniac brainwashing the masses using religion as a front.


for this to go further it needs to be moved into the religion/politics forum

There is no religion forum, and the argument that flat out says "Religion is wrong" isn't really debateable-there is no common ground to be found. I'm guessing this'll be locked soon enough, which I'd encourage.
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: KnightofNi on December 09, 2008, 12:24:35 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 09, 2008, 10:02:13 AM
There is no religion forum, and the argument that flat out says "Religion is wrong" isn't really debateable-there is no common ground to be found. I'm guessing this'll be locked soon enough, which I'd encourage.

last time I checked (1 min ago) it wasn't locked.

and seeing as how it involves religion and that is something that will bring debate, it belongs in that forum
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on December 09, 2008, 12:43:21 PM
Quote from: KnightofNi on December 09, 2008, 12:24:35 PM
last time I checked (1 min ago) it wasn't locked.

and seeing as how it involves religion and that is something that will bring debate, it belongs in that forum

"Politics (probationary)
Test board for civil political discussion "

No religion mentioned.
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: KnightofNi on December 09, 2008, 02:16:59 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 09, 2008, 12:43:21 PM
"Politics (probationary)
Test board for civil political discussion "

No religion mentioned.

go away mr. literal
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: lethe on December 09, 2008, 04:47:54 PM
Quote from: KnightofNi on December 09, 2008, 02:16:59 PM
go away mr. literal
So says Mr. LackO'Comprehension
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: factorPlayer on December 09, 2008, 04:58:48 PM
Quote from: KnightofNi on December 09, 2008, 02:16:59 PM
go away mr. literal

change one letter and we got politics!  close enough!

anyway this ain't nothin new.  Show me religion gone right and my jaw will drop. 
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Mother on December 09, 2008, 05:01:12 PM
Quote from: factorPlayer on December 09, 2008, 04:58:48 PM
change one letter and we got politics!  close enough!

anyway this ain't nothin new.  Show me religion gone right and my jaw will drop. 

christmas?

easter?

passover...maybe not passover

Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: lethe on December 09, 2008, 05:03:55 PM
Halloween.
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Mother on December 09, 2008, 05:19:10 PM
Quote from: lethe on December 09, 2008, 05:03:55 PM
Halloween.

pagan holiday wins
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: TiAvenger on December 09, 2008, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: Mother on December 09, 2008, 05:19:10 PM
pagan holiday wins

What about SteakandBJ day?
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: herm on December 09, 2008, 05:39:00 PM
i remember that on tv when i was a kid.

luckily i didnt understand at the time... :-\
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Mother on December 09, 2008, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: herm on December 09, 2008, 05:39:00 PM
i remember that on tv when i was a kid.

luckily i didnt understand at the time... :-\


you saw steak and bj day on TV as a kid?

that is awesome

where did you grow up?
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: TJR178 on December 09, 2008, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: Court-Jester on December 09, 2008, 05:38:47 PM
What about SteakandBJ day?

I saw a Happy Steak and BJ day card at Hallmark today.  Christmas isn't even here yet they have those out already!
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Xiphias on December 09, 2008, 06:25:26 PM
Thats me in the corner....
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Monsterlover on December 09, 2008, 07:18:13 PM
Quote from: TJR178 on December 09, 2008, 06:06:08 PM
I saw a Happy Steak and BJ day card at Hallmark today.  Christmas isn't even here yet they have those out already!

Hallmark FTW!!!!
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: KnightofNi on December 09, 2008, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Mother on December 09, 2008, 05:19:10 PM
pagan holiday wins

easter is a pagan holiday too.
it was adopted and transformed by the christians, but it still started as a pagan holiday.
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Drjones on December 09, 2008, 08:04:15 PM
religion = set of morals written by man

spirtuality = belief in a higher power

separate, but often mixed together to give creedence to one another and the shit hits the fan when the proponents sheeple don't question what the old fart in the funny hat up front is saying.

and why the hell is it that just about all religions feel the need to have their messengers wear some funny assed hat anyway?
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Grampa on December 09, 2008, 08:06:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A)
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: JohnnyDucati on December 09, 2008, 08:36:42 PM

This is a good read.

http://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446579807/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228883197&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446579807/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228883197&sr=8-1)
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: cbartlett419 on December 09, 2008, 08:45:50 PM
Quote from: Drjones on December 09, 2008, 08:04:15 PM
and why the hell is it that just about all religions feel the need to have their messengers wear some funny assed hat anyway?

perceived significance. I think the whole thing is based on control and manipulation, but hell, everybody's got a make the beast with two backsing opinion [coffee]
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Big Troubled Bear on December 09, 2008, 10:32:31 PM
And mine I would rather not share :o
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: CapnCrunch on December 09, 2008, 10:43:46 PM
when was religion ever right?
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: lethe on December 10, 2008, 12:43:53 AM
Quote from: KnightofNi on December 09, 2008, 07:34:42 PM
easter is a pagan holiday too.
it was adopted and transformed by the christians, but it still started as a pagan holiday.
The worship of the chocolate egg laying rabbit goddess.
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: KnightofNi on December 10, 2008, 07:34:14 AM
Quote from: lethe on December 10, 2008, 12:43:53 AM
The worship of the chocolate egg laying rabbit goddess.

shouldn't that be "the chicken egg laying chocolate rabbit goddess?"

the eggs are traditonally chicken eggs, while the rabbits are chocolate.
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: corey on December 10, 2008, 08:20:00 AM
religion to alot of people i know is less about living, and more about dying. humans fear what they don't understand, and the happenings after death are one of those things. religions are a way for people to bring some understanding into the afterlife (even if they can't physically prove any of it). it makes death a more comfortable thing to think about, talk about, or even acknowledge.

and im not stating facts, just some opinions/thoughts.
as a roman catholic, i obviously have a faith, but also have many doubts, and questions about the physical entity of my religion on this planet entitled "the roman catholic church."
so take my thoughts for what they're worth, which could quite possibly be nothing ;)
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: DCXCV on December 10, 2008, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: KnightofNi on December 10, 2008, 07:34:14 AM
shouldn't that be "the chicken egg laying chocolate rabbit goddess?"

the eggs are traditonally chicken eggs, while the rabbits are chocolate.

He may have been refering to Cadbury Creme Eggs - far superior to the hard boiled variety.
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: the_Journeyman on December 10, 2008, 08:48:50 AM
Mmmmm  Cadbury eggs....

JM
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Rob Hilding on December 10, 2008, 11:52:21 AM
For this thread, the video seems somehow appropriate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrCb_fNmSTA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrCb_fNmSTA)
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Oldfisti on December 10, 2008, 12:13:39 PM
Quote from: bozcorob on December 10, 2008, 11:52:21 AM
For this thread, the video seems somehow appropriate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrCb_fNmSTA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrCb_fNmSTA)


Almost make the beast with two backsing speechless! That was one of the best Rube Goldberg's I've seen!   [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: mdriver on December 10, 2008, 02:21:23 PM
Blaming religion for all the terrible things that have been done in it's name is akin to blaming guns for violence. Like guns religion isn't the cause of the problem. Its merely the tool used by the perpetrator, in this case the religious, to obtain a desired effect. Weather the desired effect is something universally good or bad it has always been at the will of the user.

Imagine if everyone in the US who bought a new motorcycle for the next 20 years believed that the only thing a motorcycle could be used for was to do wheelies, stoppies, and headstands in downtown highway traffic at 5pm and in mall parking lots on the weekends. No more motorcycles for transportation, relaxation, track days, or cross country trips. Only stunting!

What would the general public's perception of motorcyclists be?  What would the culture of motorcyclists be like? Who would have the louder voice in declaring who "motorcyclists" are and what "motorcycling" is?
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: Oldfisti on December 11, 2008, 04:26:21 PM
(http://images.ehowa.com/aliceonatheists.jpg)
Title: Re: religion gone wrong
Post by: ducpainter on December 11, 2008, 05:52:42 PM
Someone pregnant doged about a religious thread.

It really isn't...

but...

locked because I don't feel like dealing with it.