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Here are some pics from WSBK testing on at the moment at Kyalami

(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm272/jacopansegrouw/sbkk7.jpg?t=1228911331)

(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm272/jacopansegrouw/sbkk6.jpg?t=1228911366)

Yes that`s Haga`s Bike and he did fall off
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm272/jacopansegrouw/sbkk5.jpg?t=1228911396)

(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm272/jacopansegrouw/sbkk4.jpg?t=1228911445)

(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm272/jacopansegrouw/sbkk3.jpg?t=1228911468)

(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm272/jacopansegrouw/sbkk2.jpg?t=1228911496)

(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm272/jacopansegrouw/sbkk1.jpg?t=1228911524)

I will post some more pics and times if I can later [thumbsup]

hey zooom, should we wager on #19's testing times...?  he's never seen that track either.    [cheeky] ;D

Does Ducati use a 2:1:2 exhaust for their 1198? It sure looks like it from those pics.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Dec/081210a.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Dec/081210a.htm)

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Dec/081210b.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Dec/081210b.htm)

http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Dec/081210c.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Dec/081210c.htm)

W00t!

Go Ben!  [thumbsup]

"So, new team, new circuit, new bike, new tires, slight jet lag, and a soft motor spec = 2nd place for Spies.

Wow."

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Yeah, no shit.  Jeebus.  This is gonna be fun to watch.   ;D 

 :o   ;D    [thumbsup]

"Boy, sure is a good thing that Suzuki's MotoGP team passed on that pesky Ben Spies and his pain in the butt mom."
 
[laugh]


come on, the mole is gonna OWN 7th place.

Spies is gonna piss more people off in the paddock if he doesn't learn to watch his words carefully.  Did you see that part where he said that some of the WBSK guys could definitely win AMA superbike?  Not well said, Ben.  I know what he means and he might be right, but not everyone shares his (and our) belief in how good he and Mladin are.  Either one would be very competive at the international level, and thus winning AMA superbike is no walk in the park.  But Ben needs to realize that everyone else thinks AMA<WSBK.  I like the guy, but if he makes a habit of putting his foot in his mouth, it's gonna get nasty. 

He's an American...

keeping up the tradition is all.   ;)

all generally true.  but i bet even now that opinion is starting to rapidly change.

(helped also by josh hayes)

I saw that he went to WSBK, but didn't really follow it (too many other moves happenin' and AMA turmoil).  Where's he?   And howz he doin'?

he went to WSS, only for the last three races of the season, filling in for the late craig jones at parkalgar honda.  he got (i think) 10th and then 8th in the first two races.  in the third (final of the season, in portugal, parkalgar's home) he briefly lead the race and missed the last podium spot by .043 seconds.  he was fighting up front the whole race.. got *everyone's* attention.

he got a factory AMA superbike ride for '09 @ yamaha, alongside bboz.

Ah, that's right.  How'd I brain fart on that one?  Rhetorical.  No need to respond.   ;)

Some of the times posted late in the day [thumbsup]

1st    Michel Fabrizio    Ducati 1098F09    1:41.204    66
2nd    Ben Spies    Yamaha YZF-R1    1:41.599    46
3rd    Max Neukirchner    Suzuki GSX-R1000    1:41.713    69
4th    Noriyuki Haga    Ducati 1098F09    1:41.730    31
5th    Yukio Kagayma    Suzuki GSX-R1000    1:41.755    39
6th    Shinya Nakano    Aprilia RSV4    1:41.846    51
7th    Max Biaggi    Aprilia RSV4    1:42.446    29
8th    Ryuichi Kiyonari    Honda CBR1000RR    1:42.744    62
9th    Troy Corser    BMW S1000RR    1:42.975    33
10th    Ruben Xaus    BMW S1000RR    1:43.274    41
11th    Carlos Checa    Honda CBR1000RR    1:43.418    10
12th    Jonathan Rea    Honda CBR1000RR    1:44.496    16
13th    Tom Sykes    Yamaha YZF-R1    1:46.780    16

day 2 not so fruitful for Spies...

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35161 (http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35161)

i love how that's the first/only thing in this thread you comment on... ;)

as I read through the thread...people already said what I would have...so...why duplicate?


except for the reason of post whoring

also to keep in mind in fairness...this is all null and void once the lights go out and we go racing at Philip Island...their times at practise right now mean relatively little as they are mostly tuning and testing and collecting data more than setting up for race day...these boys are being used as test mules moreso than as racers right now...

agreed, but it's not relatively little.  testing times = confidence.  confidence is all important when the lights go out.

regardless, quit trying to suck the fun out of this  :)

I disagree with you there...confidence is something they mostly already have or they wouldn't be out there...


now...where's my wet/dry shop vac so I can go suck the fun out of some other stuff?!?!?!

the difference between mostly already have (agree with you there) and really in the zone is the difference between fighting for the podium and... not.

esp in wsbk/wss, if you aren't attacking you're just a guy doing some advertising laps.  to attack, you have to have confidence in the package and yourself.  it's a major, major factor. 

spies ends the test 2nd fastest.

http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35166 (http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35166)

And he did it without putting his foot in his mouth today.  He's learning.  And the Ducs are lookin' good.  1st and 3rd.   [thumbsup]

Is that BMW gonna be a total dog or are they gonna get it together for race season?

I'm not sure about the camo leathers that "dogs borrocks" is wearing.

Anyone want to bet that Spie's HJC paint features a stars and stripes? Anyone? Bueller?

BMW has their own methodology about doing things racing oriented...hell..in production vehicles too for that matter...but I am sure they are going to take all the data from Kyalami and crunch some numbers and make some stuff and improvements based on the feedback they got from Ruben and Troy...and who knows...


yeah...I was looking at those and thinking..."whattta fashion clash"...

BMW is... german ;).  exacting, precise.  they have a plan.  they've already said they don't expect to win races until 2010.  could be marketing, but still.

they also made arguably the perfect hires to get this program off the ground: corser may as well be german.  he's so specific, so exact.  when he's in the zone, every single lap is identical.  and he (obviously) has the experience to tell them what he needs/what they need.

then they have hair-on-fire-when-i'm-standing-still xaus.  he'll take all their know-how and corser's down to the degree feedback and then go test it at 130%.  he'll wad up the bike a lot but he'll give them the other half of the equation, the info they need to win races.

plus BMW wouldn't have gotten into wsbk unless they intended to be here for a long time.



and nori: far from the first time he's raided barry manilow's closet.

Haga Video

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/videos/2008/December/dec1508-haga-tests-new-2009-ducati-xerox/?&R=EPI-104818 (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/videos/2008/December/dec1508-haga-tests-new-2009-ducati-xerox/?&R=EPI-104818)