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Title: Valve adjustment? Post by: duc996 on May 12, 2008, 05:54:00 AM Hello,i ride an 04 s4r with 27k kms,it's been running great so far,do i really need a valve adjustment?When do you know you need one?Thanks.
Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: gage on May 12, 2008, 06:56:25 AM You should have done three already and are due for your fourth very soon!! [bang]
Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: ducpainter on May 12, 2008, 07:49:23 AM It would be a good idea at that mileage.
The closers are probably pretty loose by now and will pound the keepers to death possibly causing an expensive issue...not that the service isn't pricey on it's own. Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: hiero on May 12, 2008, 08:29:06 AM not to mention, have you changed the belts out at all in that time? might want to really think about it...
Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: Rameses on May 12, 2008, 09:05:16 AM When do you know you need a valve adjustment? When you do your scheduled valve inspection and they're not within spec.
That's the point of routine services. Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: duc996 on May 12, 2008, 06:48:39 PM not to mention, have you changed the belts out at all in that time? might want to really think about it... Belts have been changed as scheduled.Thanks for the input,i'm getting my baby in for the service.Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: bigiain on May 13, 2008, 01:23:27 AM You should have done three already and are due for your fourth very soon!! [bang] They're kilometers, not miles - he's just short of the third scheduled valve clearance check on the old bikes, and a little over the second on a new one. (I think the '04s were still calling for 10,000km/6000mile checks and the 12,000km/7500miles checks turned up for the '07 models) To the OP, yeah, you should get them checked, especially if you didn't have it done when the belts were changed - if the clearances are out you could be doing potentially expensive damage to the valve gear. There's a good chance you don't actually need an adjustment though, but you'll never know if you don't get it measured up. big Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: duc996 on May 13, 2008, 02:35:36 AM They're kilometers, not miles - he's just short of the third scheduled valve clearance check on the old bikes, and a little over the second on a new one. (I think the '04s were still calling for 10,000km/6000mile checks and the 12,000km/7500miles checks turned up for the '07 models) Got it,thanks a lot. :)To the OP, yeah, you should get them checked, especially if you didn't have it done when the belts were changed - if the clearances are out you could be doing potentially expensive damage to the valve gear. There's a good chance you don't actually need an adjustment though, but you'll never know if you don't get it measured up. big Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: gage on May 13, 2008, 06:47:02 AM They're kilometers, not miles - he's just short of the third scheduled valve clearance check on the old bikes, and a little over the second on a new one. (I think the '04s were still calling for 10,000km/6000mile checks and the 12,000km/7500miles checks turned up for the '07 models) big 27k Kms = 16,777 miles. 1. Check and adjust at 600 mile Service 2. Check and adjust at 6000 mile Service 3. Check and adjust at 12,000 mile Service Bent Valve, flaking rockers etc are all very bad and very preventable. Glad to hear your bringing her in for Service. Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: oregunduc on May 13, 2008, 07:38:51 AM But on the other side if a person made it 4 services with (600,6k,12k,18k) one would have to damn near even money even if something did break? Further more by the 24k service it seems to me that you would be money ahead in the long run.
Either way ride safe keep it rubber side down [moto] Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: gage on May 13, 2008, 12:12:54 PM But on the other side if a person made it 4 services with (600,6k,12k,18k) one would have to damn near even money even if something did break? Further more by the 24k service it seems to me that you would be money ahead in the long run. Either way ride safe keep it rubber side down [moto] You are probably very right :o service isn't cheap. That said can you really put a price on the time lost between motorcyle and rider during the repair? I shudder just thinking about it. Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: hiero on May 13, 2008, 01:04:20 PM You are probably very right :o service isn't cheap. That said can you really put a price on the time lost between motorcyle and rider during the repair? I shudder just thinking about it. that's why you get more than one bike ;) Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: bigiain on May 13, 2008, 06:37:58 PM 27k Kms = 16,777 miles. 1. Check and adjust at 600 mile Service 2. Check and adjust at 6000 mile Service 3. Check and adjust at 12,000 mile Service All good and old school, and I'll bet you (like me) use the old tighter tolerances as well not the newer sloppier ones. Ducati haven't called for valve clearance checks in the 600 mile service since '98 or earlier though (at least not on old design the 2 valvers - anyone know what the owners manual says on the new motors? the 695s and 696s?) Quote Bent Valve, flaking rockers etc are all very bad and very preventable. Glad to hear your bringing her in for Service. +1. big Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: Augustus on May 13, 2008, 06:51:16 PM that's why you get more than one bike ;) Cool, I'll tell my wife a second bike is mandatory. [laugh] Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: hiero on May 13, 2008, 07:24:46 PM I use the old LT's tighter valve clearances [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: gage on May 14, 2008, 05:55:51 AM All good and old school, and I'll bet you (like me) use the old tighter tolerances as well not the newer sloppier ones. big I do valve jobs for fun and wet sanding shims to get the perfect clearances is too much fun to just open things up and say its within the disgustingly wide Duc spec [drink] Title: Re: Valve adjustment? Post by: bigiain on May 14, 2008, 05:43:38 PM I do valve jobs for fun and wet sanding shims to get the perfect clearances is too much fun to just open things up and say its within the disgustingly wide Duc spec [drink] Heh heh - 50 figure eight laps on my oilstone takes about half a thou off an opener shim, ad I can watch it cool down afterwards by hitting it with the micrometer every 5 or 10 seconds and seeing it get ever so slightly slightly smaller... Been there :-) big |