Hello All, In October I had an accident. It was bad enough to total the bike (an 08 Tricolore with 4500 miles on it). I didn't get hurt bad but it was worse than I thought as my thumb is still kind of messed up. It's fine for days and then I hit it on something and it's pain all over again...but enough about me.
My local shop has another 08 Tricolore for sale. I was going to put a deposit on it and but it as a demo. I may jump on it now though as by the 23rd they will be taking $1250 off the MSRP. That makes it only 14,250 list. If I could get them to move off that to say $13,500 it would be a killer deal.That way I could get the full system and cams. Put a little down payment on it and I'd be right back to list price.
What do you guys think. Get it now or wait until spring when one of 2 things happen...I buy it at a reduced price as a demo or miss out entirely on the last of the liquid cooled S4RS models. BTW the wife already said I could get it but she didn't exactly sound as if she was in the christmas spirit about the whole thing.
They also have 2 s2r1000'a for sale and they will get the same (or similar) discounting. I don't know a whole lot about the S2R1000 but might look into it if it's a great deal.
It'd be totally worth it if you payed what they asked but they threw a paint job in deal....
Hey BlueTiger, I may have decided what I'm going to do with my # 2 S4Rs ( w, 7 miles on it ) come Spring and we are just 1 State away. Dolph
Quote from: WannaDucBad on December 20, 2008, 07:09:38 PM
It'd be totally worth it if you payed what they asked but they threw a paint job in deal....
Methinks someone doesn't like the Tricolore paint job.
Im not a fan of the tricolor either. Same reason i dont like corbin seats. I dont like flying an italian flag. but if your italian its cool, otherwise its just.. ehh. i dont know, i feel like a traitor. LOL
Anyway, i think you should wait it out. Even if its not available as a demo next year, you can lawyas buy a used on (which is basically what you are buying) and if it is there next year, it will be cheaper. plus you keep the wife happy over the winter time.
The S2R1000 is a fun bike. How much are they selling it for? Also where are you cause i know evilsteve in NYC is selling an S4Rs for 9.5k.....
Go for the Tricolore! It's the last and finest nod to the grand classic Monster body style, it's cool, and it's the 4-valve ripping Testastretta. What more could you want???!!! BTW, I know where number 400/400 is if you want (possibly) the most collectible of them all. PM me if you - or anyone out there - is interested.
Options Options Options. I do like the Tricolore paint and I'm fairly confident I can get a decent deal. I think if I could get the bike with a full system and cams for the same price as the stock bike retails for I would be doing OK. I may also be able to put a deposit on it and buy it at the special price come spring. Or I could just wait it out and buy a used one if I have to. I've never been very good at waiting and don't want to buy a "used" bike without knowing alot about it. A "demo" could be OK or not but if I get a screaming deal on it and can get a bunch of goodies without paying over list then I would be pretty happy. They are asking 12,500 (i think) after discount for the S2R100. I like the bike but not as much as the Testa powered one!! I still have a few days to think about it.
Go get the Tricolore [moto]
I'll start counting to three.....
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Personally, I don't see the point in paying a premium for the Tricolor over a regular S4Rs. None of the "Special Edition" Monsters have ever appreciated in value, so there's no reason to expect the Tricolor to. If you're in love with the paint scheme (I'm not), then its worth it, but otherwise, I'd take the deeper discount you're bound to get on an S4Rs.
I'd never buy a demo bike, but that's just me.
People rag the shit out of them.
Quote from: blue tiger on December 21, 2008, 12:04:26 AM
Options Options Options. I do like the Tricolore paint and I'm fairly confident I can get a decent deal. I think if I could get the bike with a full system and cams for the same price as the stock bike retails for I would be doing OK. I may also be able to put a deposit on it and buy it at the special price come spring. Or I could just wait it out and buy a used one if I have to. I've never been very good at waiting and don't want to buy a "used" bike without knowing alot about it. A "demo" could be OK or not but if I get a screaming deal on it and can get a bunch of goodies without paying over list then I would be pretty happy. They are asking 12,500 (i think) after discount for the S2R100. I like the bike but not as much as the Testa powered one!! I still have a few days to think about it.
I'd get the water pumper. The best Christmas or birthday present is the one you get for yourself! [laugh] Advanced Motorsports here in Dallas/Ft.Worth are selling a brand new leftover S2R1000 for $10,500. I have one with Ohlins shock, damper and fork internals and full Termi system. I love it. [thumbsup] But I still would jump on the Tricolore if they cut you the right deal. It would be cool to own the last of the "wet" Monsters. [bow_down]
I don't know what gives on your side of the pond but over here in jolly old England most of the dealers try to get the 1st service done before the young guns try their hands on new bikes. The tricolore is an acquired taste and is usually bought with the heart and not the head so do'es it matter if it makes big bucks or not it's just a personal thing. I know i'm biased as i've got a tricolore but i also like air cooled monsters and at the moment i'm running in a 1100s for my local ducati shop which i'm quite smitten with. Andy how many miles has this demo tricolore got on the clock and what warranty is the dealer giving with the bike ?
Could be just the right crimbo prezzie to ones self [moto]
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Is anyone out there really serious about giving a rat's hiney about whether their Tricolore appreciates in value or not? I know I don't. I bought mine because I like it, it's the last of that body style, the Testastretta is a rippin lump, and having a numbered limited edition is kinda cool. Heck, my 900SS SP has its cool little numbered plaque on the triple clamp but I don't kid myself into believing it's going up in value anytime soon. Maybe someday, but not today. And that's not the point anyway. We buy bikes because we love 'em and (hopefully) love riding them. If you're buying your bike just to turn it into a museum piece or a focal point in your living room, well whatever floats your cracker. Mine get ridden, therefore depreciates in value. But I like to think that with each ride they appreciate in value to me. Every time I blast out on my Tricolore it reminds me of why I bought it - it's an absolute gas to ride. Same with the SS, the Multistrada, my KTM, BSA, and even my little Hodaka 125. I've been involved in the AHRMA vintage scene for years and have seen plenty of pristine restorations, but the bikes that get used are, IMO, the ones I like best. Who knows (or cares) whether the Tricolore will end up as some revered icon in the Barber Museum or not? If you dig it, buy it (while you can) and enjoy the heck out of it.
P.S. Demos carry the same warranty as a new bike and are required to have 600 miles and their first service on them before the dealer can sell it. Some dealers out there may deviate from the mileage slightly, but that's what Ducati specifies. If you get a good deal on a demo, go for it. Ducati will stand by it, no problemo. And most people who demo a bike are riding a bike they're unfamiliar with and are generally too nervous and often times riding in an area they're not used to either, which all combine to make very few demo rides into a thrashfest. Some out there may brag about caning a demo, but it's mostly hot air. You'd be hard-pressed to actually hurt a bike in the short space of time of a demo ride. Unless of course you crash it, but that's another matter.
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I think the bike should come with cams without having to pay anything extra. ;D
LA
mxwinky is right, in my opinion, about demos being OK. AMS here in my home town has an employee go with you on demo rides and leads you around their part of town on another bike. Under those circumstances it's hard to thrash the s#@t out of a bike without having the employee knock you off!
Besides, not to sound snotty, but if you are interested in shoveling out the big bucks for any Ducati I've got a few bucks of my own to bet that you are not the kind of person to go wring some bike's neck on a demo ride. Just saying, I believe as a group of bike owners and potential buyers I think we are a little more responsible than the average tire kicker. No offense to any of you irresponsible people out there! [laugh] Not that there is anything wrong with that! Oh, there are the "I wheelied it every block/backed it into every turn/and banged it off the rev limiter in every gear" BS stories out there but I think it mostly just that...BS.
You are also right on about the full warrnanty from the day you buy it and the first service being done.
Well, I've got a plan. If I can get the bike with a full system at or below list price out the door Ill buy it. That's a new s4rs Tricolore with a full system for 15,000. I don't know if they'll do it or not. It doesn't have enough miles on it to be sold as a demo yet. I think if they seem entirely unwilling to make a deal on it as a new bike I'll risk waiting till spring but still put a deposit on it price unsettled upon.
On cycle trader and other sites even 07's with a fair amount of milage are in the high 13's. This is with alot of extras of course. I've always bought bikes for ridiculous reasons and feel if I'm happy with my purchase then I got a fair deal. I'm trying to keep emotion out of it but it's tough.
My missus isn't thrilled because I was hurt a little more than I let on after my accident and had to end up seeing a doctor. I didn't miss any time at work but reporting to the wife on my back ("stretched and inflamed tendons") and my thumb (chipped bone and damage in the joint) was not pleasant. I'm pretty much 100% but she yelled at me when I got in (after the wreck) and my kids were bawling because they thought I was dead or something. I think they were all 10 times more upset about it than I was (except about the bike of course...I was crushed).
whats required mileage for a demo?
My bike was a demo bike. Runs great aside from normal S2R1000 problems surging/valve guides. almost 10k.
it was an 06 sold in 07.
Quote from: blue tiger on December 21, 2008, 04:46:32 PM
Well, I've got a plan. If I can get the bike with a full system at or below list price out the door Ill buy it. That's a new s4rs Tricolore with a full system for 15,000. I don't know if they'll do it or not. It doesn't have enough miles on it to be sold as a demo yet. I think if they seem entirely unwilling to make a deal on it as a new bike I'll risk waiting till spring but still put a deposit on it price unsettled upon.
On cycle trader and other sites even 07's with a fair amount of milage are in the high 13's. This is with alot of extras of course. I've always bought bikes for ridiculous reasons and feel if I'm happy with my purchase then I got a fair deal. I'm trying to keep emotion out of it but it's tough.
My missus isn't thrilled because I was hurt a little more than I let on after my accident and had to end up seeing a doctor. I didn't miss any time at work but reporting to the wife on my back ("stretched and inflamed tendons") and my thumb (chipped bone and damage in the joint) was not pleasant. I'm pretty much 100% but she yelled at me when I got in (after the wreck) and my kids were bawling because they thought I was dead or something. I think they were all 10 times more upset about it than I was (except about the bike of course...I was crushed).
If it makes her feel better you can tell her my story. I was attacked (yes attacked) by a full size male turkey (your standard issue big ass gobbler) from the side of the road last May on a DML local group trip to Arkansas. It freaked out on the side of the road and flew straight at me, being the lead bike. It did a full fledged kamikaze hit on the front of my bike taking out the entire front fairing, windscreen and mirrors. I naturally ducked (no pun intended) but the big ass tank bag kept me from getting from getting lower to miss the incoming fowl. The impact on my Arai Corsair cracked open the helmet and exploded the bird and cut it in half. The guy behind me said it looked like the bird ate a grenade. It knocked me unconscious, gave me a concussion and crushed four vertebrae in my neck. Won't bore you with the Care Flight, operations and hospital and rehab stays.
Hey, I'm still riding and my missus doesn't like it. Wasn't my time. Sure I'm lucky to be alive and not paralyzed and blah, blah, blah. Tell her your fine and it could have been a lot worse. Hell, people die walking to work everyday. Crap happens. If the same injury I sustained happened in a car wreck traveling to church and I survived am I going to stop traveling by car and stop going to church? Just live. It's not a dress rehearsal. Besides, I should get a trophy for taking the dumbest turkey out of the gene pool! [laugh]
Get the Tricolore!! [thumbsup] [moto] That's what is important.
Typically the dealer is supposed to have 600 miles on a demo before being allowed to sell it. Some dealer will make an exception now and then when the season is getting late and the demo still doesn't have the required miles on it. Selling a demo too early is bad for the dealer because they're not likely to get another of the same model from the manufacturer to use as a demo, thus prospective buyers won't have the ability to demo a model they're interested in. Demos are a great deal if you find one you like, such as a Tricolore with a full Termi system!
3 , now just get the bike!
BTW - that turkey story is fantastic, glad you were ok [thumbsup]
Turkey story wins !! I hope the care flight guys treated you right. I do pretty much the same job in Indiana just specific to kids. I get a few scooter, bike and ATV crashes but not many MC wrecks.
The fact that I really eant that bike is hindering my ability to haggle in an emotionless fasion. I'm still going in on Tuesday to feel them out but I'm not going to buy something that expensive 2 days before christmas unless it's a screaming deal.
My wife does understand and doesn't really mind (too much) if I get it she just wants to have a little control. She said if I wreck the next one it's the last Duc because I never wrecked any of my Harleys. I refrained from telling her that a few of those met the ground as well they are just easy for me to work on.
I assume the Care Flight went OK but i kind of missed it. I was unconscience. Dammit, missed out on my only chopper (helicopter that is ;D) ride. They still wanted their $17,000 though. :P Back and neck are a total mess but I can still ride and every single ride is somehow even more important and meaningful. [moto] Heli bars and risers are now my best friends! [laugh]
... get the bike! There, back on topic! [thumbsup]
Just buy a used S4RS friend. I for one would never spend that much on a Tricolor. I'm just not a fan of that color scheme. No matter what color you buy you're in a class of your own. I rarely see an S4RS when I ride unless I look down at my tank.
I also have an S2R1000 and it is a blast. Lot's of power from that air cooled engine.
What kind of riding do you do?
Quote from: DoubleEagle on December 20, 2008, 07:55:45 PM
Hey BlueTiger, I may have decided what I'm going to do with my # 2 S4Rs ( w, 7 miles on it ) come Spring and we are just 1 State away. Dolph
sounds like a good option for him [thumbsup]
Well Andy, stopintime has given you the count down now get a grip of yourself and go get it [clap] [clap] [clap]
Does it really need to be said again? Even your wife's on board. Sheeesh, get the Tricolore and have a Merry Christmas!!! This sounds like the process I went through when I bought mine. My gf finally kicked me out of the house and told me not to come back without the bike. Now that's the kind of woman we should all have in our lives. Okay, countdown's been done so get to the shop before they close and do the deal.
Guys we all buy with our hearts and not our heads and we've all been down the shall we shouldn't we road :-\ so give Andy a brake, but on saying that it is wenesday so come Andy whats the news. The fact that your [bow_down] good lady's on board tells me you have done the deed so put us out of our misery and tell all [thumbsup]
Happy Christmas to ALL from jolly old England Geoff [beer]
Quote from: geoffduc on December 24, 2008, 02:02:19 AM
Guys we all buy with our hearts and not our heads and we've all been down the shall we shouldn't we road :-\ so give Andy a brake, but on saying that it is wenesday so come Andy whats the news. The fact that your [bow_down] good lady's on board tells me you have done the deed so put us out of our misery and tell all [thumbsup]
Happy Christmas to ALL from jolly old England Geoff [beer]
+1
and greetings from Norway too :)
Well? Where are the pics? Get a move on! ;D
Lots of typing and reading....not much tricolore purchasing going on ???
You guys are killing me !! No Tricolore for christmas. Sorry. We had a huge ice storm the night of the 22nd and early the 23rd. It took my friend about 2 hours to make his 20 minute commute. He works about a mile from the local shop. I couldn't bring myself to spend my daughters college fund as well as risk her well being (and that of her little sis as well) going out. The roads were sheets of ice with about a zillion slide offs.
Never fear as I will be going in and talking with them just putting it off for a few weeks. If I have to I will buy a used one and save some loot that way.
What color is your second bike double eagle ? I imagine I could enjoy alot of different sport bikes but the sound and power of the S4RS was addicting. Once I rode it I was hooked!!
Try an 848 ;)
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 26, 2008, 08:21:26 PM
Try an 848 ;)
With the great idea's I keep getting here I hardly need any of my own!! ;D
Quote from: blue tiger on December 26, 2008, 05:46:11 PM
What color is your second bike double eagle ?
I think both are pearl white, red frame - add some green and you're kind of there? ;)
Quote from: stopintime on December 27, 2008, 12:23:44 AM
I think both are pearl white, red frame - add some green and you're kind of there? ;)
The green comes standard-it's just on all the other envious peeps.
Quote from: blue tiger on December 21, 2008, 12:04:26 AM
Options Options Options. I do like the Tricolore paint and I'm fairly confident I can get a decent deal. I think if I could get the bike with a full system and cams for the same price as the stock bike retails for I would be doing OK. I may also be able to put a deposit on it and buy it at the special price come spring. Or I could just wait it out and buy a used one if I have to. I've never been very good at waiting and don't want to buy a "used" bike without knowing alot about it. A "demo" could be OK or not but if I get a screaming deal on it and can get a bunch of goodies without paying over list then I would be pretty happy. They are asking 12,500 (i think) after discount for the S2R100. I like the bike but not as much as the Testa powered one!! I still have a few days to think about it.
Are you kidding me? You won't buy a used bike, but you'd happily pay 14 grand for a Demo? At least many used bikes were somewhat loved and taken care of by their first owners.
I like to let other people take the depreciation for me. I pay cash for my toys. If you have to finance a MC, don't get it. I find very low milage bikes (2000 mi. or under) and then go through them with a fine toothed comb. It is a slight risk, but if you know what to look for, it is worth it in the savings some times. Oh, warranty shwarranty. By the time many of us get done with mods, the warranty doesn't matter too much any way.
Quote from: cgos4r on December 27, 2008, 09:00:26 AM
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By the time many of us get done with mods, the warranty doesn't matter too much any way.
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Just thought I'd bring this up. The only time mods affect your warranty is if Ducati/the dealership can prove that your mod caused a problem with your bike.
While I disagree with you about financing, I agree with you about the confusion on not buying used but being willing to buy a demo.
Don't cross off used bikes off your list just because they're used.
Speaking from experience, just buy the freakin' bike, regardless of the source. If you have a source in mind you would prefer (and you know in your heart that you do) then get it from there. Why? Because if you don't, you'll obsess about it for the rest of your life and drive your Sig-O crazy. Trust me.
Would I buy used? Yes. A demo? I'd think about it if they cut me a spectacular deal. But what I or anyone else *would* do is not the point.
Do what's in your heart to do and the rest will follow.
That is all, young padawan learner.
;D
Quote from: River on December 27, 2008, 11:06:24 AM
Speaking from experience, just buy the freakin' bike, regardless of the source. If you have a source in mind you would prefer (and you know in your heart that you do) then get it from there. Why? Because if you don't, you'll obsess about it for the rest of your life and drive your Sig-O crazy. Trust me.
Would I buy used? Yes. A demo? I'd think about it if they cut me a spectacular deal. But what I or anyone else *would* do is not the point.
Do what's in your heart to do and the rest will follow.
That is all, young padawan learner.
;D
Well, I agree that you should do what you feel comfortable with; however, it is just my opinion that financing a motorcycle is just a bad idea. As you know, when you finance a bike, the bank owns it. If you crash it or damage it, not only will your insurance rates go up, you could lose quite a bit due to the perceived value and the actual value paid or owed. It makes much more sense to me to save the money and walk in with cash. You may have to wait a while, but it makes it much sweeter and feels much better in the end.
$hit, what do I care? I've lost tens of thousands of dollars on stupid car purchases/finances over the years [bang]. Do what makes you feel happy bro!
Quote from: cgos4r on December 27, 2008, 01:27:18 PM
Well, I agree that you should do what you feel comfortable with; however, it is just my opinion that financing a motorcycle is just a bad idea. As you know, when you finance a bike, the bank owns it. If you crash it or damage it, not only will your insurance rates go up, you could lose quite a bit due to the perceived value and the actual value paid or owed. It makes much more sense to me to save the money and walk in with cash. You may have to wait a while, but it makes it much sweeter and feels much better in the end.
$hit, what do I care? I've lost tens of thousands of dollars on stupid car purchases/finances over the years [bang]. Do what makes you feel happy bro!
I wish I had the cash to just buy a 12 or 13 thousand dollar bike. Unfortunatly I have kids that need a college savings account, will be needing cars very soon and ...well you know the drill. If I could I would pay cash and if I was single and hadn't been married for the last 15 years then cash would be a real possibility. I'm also not against buying used I was just going to try and get a smoking deal. I still might try later this spring. A good thing is that I haven't had a car payment since 2001 or so. Now bike payments is a different story but I will run my car into the ground. The bikes get TLC.
Andy every thing comes to those who wait ;D and who knows i might fall off the perch :( and you could come and grab one thats had real TLC [bow_down] and shed loads of bling. To my mind life is back to front ie. your young have dreams but no money, you get old and have a small amount of disposable income and bingo you forgot what you wanted in the 1st place [bang]. I know your really smitten with the s4rs ticolore but just go and demo the new 1100s before you do the deal because i've become smitten with the demo 1100s i've been running in [clap] and you could always get it painted tricolore colours. [beer]
Quote from: blue tiger on December 27, 2008, 05:17:18 PM
I wish I had the cash to just buy a 12 or 13 thousand dollar bike. Unfortunatly I have kids that need a college savings account, will be needing cars very soon and ...well you know the drill. If I could I would pay cash and if I was single and hadn't been married for the last 15 years then cash would be a real possibility. I'm also not against buying used I was just going to try and get a smoking deal. I still might try later this spring. A good thing is that I haven't had a car payment since 2001 or so. Now bike payments is a different story but I will run my car into the ground. The bikes get TLC.
That is my point! I wouldn't go pay cash for a brand new $12k+ bike either; however, I save money in my bike fund until I have about 10 grand, then I go find a nice used one with low miles and make it my own. It's actually kind of fun and you don't have to do all the patient break-in stuff! Priorities man, priorities! Good things come to those who wait!