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Title: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on December 31, 2008, 09:06:17 PM
Got a late visit from South African Santa today.  He came bearing gifts from BST.  That is all


for now...


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: danaid on December 31, 2008, 10:14:22 PM
PICS!


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on December 31, 2008, 10:15:58 PM
Patience grasshopper, they will come...


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: teddy037.2 on January 01, 2009, 09:12:13 AM
PICS!

+1

wheels do not exist w/o pics.




Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: Duck-Stew on January 01, 2009, 10:01:44 AM
+1

wheels do not exist w/o pics.




Nothing exists without pics.  Nothing except the words in this post and I'm not too sure they exist either....    Hmmmmm.....


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: teddy037.2 on January 01, 2009, 10:06:40 AM
and if noone is here to read them, do these words cease to exist?




 [coffee]


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on January 01, 2009, 12:17:19 PM
Only if the bear ceases to shit in the woods...


+1

wheels do not exist w/o pics.


We are installing the wheels either tomorrow (if it is slow) or more likely on Saturday.  Pics and  [bacon] will come then. 


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: Statler on January 01, 2009, 03:52:43 PM
Hope you love them.   watch out for the inside curb of the first turn...you're going to get there quicker than you're expecting.

ride report after the initial pics please.

 [moto]


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: CowboyBeebop on January 01, 2009, 04:37:37 PM
Only if the bear ceases to shit in the woods...


We are installing the wheels either tomorrow (if it is slow) or more likely on Saturday.  Pics and  [bacon] will come then. 

Are they the old-style ones or the new Mamba wheels?  Those Mamba wheels are sweet, but the rear wheel is only available in the 6" flavor (though I think the old ones are, too?)


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on January 01, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
They are the five-spoke design, with a 5.75" rear wheel.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: hypurone on January 02, 2009, 07:11:51 AM
Are they the old-style ones or the new Mamba wheels?  Those Mamba wheels are sweet, but the rear wheel is only available in the 6" flavor (though I think the old ones are, too?)

Hey now! Nothing wrong with a 6.0 rear!  ;D And yes, they ARE sweet. Asl me how I know. But then most things that are CF are SWEET to me...

OP, carefully check the clearance on that rear. They had some issues with them clearing the caliper and make a spacer for them...


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: Statler on January 02, 2009, 07:19:44 AM
Hey now! Nothing wrong with a 6.0 rear!  ;D And yes, they ARE sweet. Asl me how I know. But then most things that are CF are SWEET to me...

OP, carefully check the clearance on that rear. They had some issues with them clearing the caliper and make a spacer for them...

oh yeah...spacer or need to shave the caliper.   Don't want to mark up the spokes.  might be slightly different clearances depending on bike but just check three times before you spin the wheel.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on January 02, 2009, 11:25:00 AM
Good info to have, thanks.  These supposedly are designed to fit the bike to fit perfectly, but we shall see tomorrow.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: Statler on January 02, 2009, 11:41:38 AM
which bike are they going on?


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on January 02, 2009, 11:43:39 AM
The Sport 1000.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: Buckethead on January 02, 2009, 12:02:54 PM
I hate you.

I hate you so much.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on January 02, 2009, 12:10:07 PM
I hate you.

I hate you so much.

LOL  And I got the last Ohlins TMSD on the way.   ;D


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: Capo on January 02, 2009, 12:15:21 PM
16 posts and no pics  [bang]


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: Statler on January 02, 2009, 12:46:58 PM
The Sport 1000.

ok.  the spacing issue was on single sided s*r monsters.    keep an eye on it anyway.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on January 02, 2009, 12:59:16 PM
ok.  the spacing issue was on single sided s*r monsters.    keep an eye on it anyway.

I will.  I talked to a guy that mounted the same wheels on his PS.  He said he initially had some rubbing on the rear brake, but that was with the axle fixing nuts torqued to 150nm!!   :o :o  He backed them down to 75 and all is well in the world.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DarkStaR on January 02, 2009, 01:00:46 PM
I will.  I talked to a guy that mounted the same wheels on his PS.  He said he initially had some rubbing on the rear brake, but that was with the axle fixing nuts torqued to 150nm!!   :o :o  He backed them down to 75 and all is well in the world.

Now you can upgrade the brakes!


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on January 02, 2009, 01:04:30 PM
Now you can upgrade the brakes!

Working on that too.  Trying to get some 4p4p calipers, but it can be tough getting a decent deal when you live in the middle of the ocean...


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on January 04, 2009, 11:28:20 AM
Well, we attempted to instal the wheels yesterday and ran into a problem.  The front wheel did not mate up to the forks.  No matter what we did, we simply could not get things to line up right and the axle spacing was all jacked up.   [bang] [bang] [bang]  So we decided to make our way to the rear wheel so I would know if I had to send one or two wheels back.  Well, the rear wheel went on ridiculously easy, so easy in fact that both Mac and I thought we had forgotten to put parts back on.  We were both looking around for something that should have gone back on, but there was nothing.  So here I am with a stock spoked jobbie on the front and a 5-spoke BST on the rear.  Hope I can get this sorted soon, because I am headed out to Asscrackastan in three weeks...   :-\

More (including pics) to follow when I get off the lap top and back on the big computer.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DarkStaR on January 04, 2009, 12:45:30 PM
Well, we attempted to instal the wheels yesterday and ran into a problem.  The front wheel did not mate up to the forks.  No matter what we did, we simply could not get things to line up right and the axle spacing was all jacked up.   [bang] [bang] [bang]  So we decided to make our way to the rear wheel so I would know if I had to send one or two wheels back.  Well, the rear wheel went on ridiculously easy, so easy in fact that both Mac and I thought we had forgotten to put parts back on.  We were both looking around for something that should have gone back on, but there was nothing.  So here I am with a stock spoked jobbie on the front and a 5-spoke BST on the rear.  Hope I can get this sorted soon, because I am headed out to Asscrackastan in three weeks...   :-\

More (including pics) to follow when I get off the lap top and back on the big computer.

Is just the front axle and spacer that's the problem?


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on January 04, 2009, 12:50:33 PM
No, if anything it looks like the hub was assembled backwards from the factory.  The spacer from the stock wheels was on the left side of the hub as it came off the bike.  The new wheel (BST) had the spacer permanently attached to the right side.  With that in mind, the wheel would sit too far to the left (with the rotor resting on the caliper mount) when the axle was inserted all the way in.  The only way we were able to get the wheel any where near close to centered was when we mocked it up with spacers on both sides of the hub but then the axle would not go in far enough for threads to come out of the right side fork leg.


Title: Re: BSTs Finally done.
Post by: DRKWNG on July 05, 2009, 11:40:51 AM
Well, it took me all of a five month "holiday" away from home, but finally got both wheels, as well as a superbike front end swap, on the bike.  Here are a few pics...

Off go the old:
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0007-1.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0009-2.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0010-1.jpg)

On go the new:
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0012-1.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0013-1.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0014-1.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0015-1.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0018-1.jpg)

That is all.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: kopfjäger on July 05, 2009, 11:44:51 AM
Nice  [thumbsup]

Ride report ASAP   ;D


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on July 05, 2009, 04:50:26 PM
Ride report ASAP   ;D

HUGE difference!!   ;D  This thing turns in so quickly now it isn't even funny.  Don't really know what to attribute the new handling characteristics to the most; the wheels?  The new tire profile?  The 30mm offset of the triple tree?  The fact that the front end now sits about 15mm lower than it used to?

Kind of funny though, as I used to think my Daytona was a bit nervous handling when I first got it, but it has nothing on this. 


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: Buckethead on July 05, 2009, 06:00:25 PM
Looking good, mang!  [thumbsup]

Yeah, with wheels that light, a steering damper of SOME sort is definitely a necessity.

I'm curious, tho, how do you like the new 4-pads?


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: dlearl476 on July 05, 2009, 08:00:17 PM
The fact that the front end now sits about 15mm lower than it used to?
 

As is triple tree is 15 mm lower on the forks, or the forks are 15 mm lower in the trees?  From the adjustment marks in the pic, I'm assuming the former.  If so, that would be my guess.  If it were me, I'd be getting a steering damper.  My '99 was, as you say, a bit nervous when I got it and lowering the forks 5 mm calmed it right down. 


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: tonkoshala on July 05, 2009, 08:26:58 PM
 [thumbsup]

Looking good! I should have mine in this week  ;D


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on July 06, 2009, 02:14:20 PM
The trees sit about 15mm lower on the the forks than the stock set up did.  I did not actually intend for it to sit this low, but the lower triple is as high as can be on the 999 forks without having the upper edge clamped on to air (from where the forks taper back down to 50mm on the way to the top).  It isn't scary nervous at all, just "quick".   :D  I do have a top mount Ohlins damper kit for the bike, but the mount was originally designed to clamp onto the 50mm stock fork tube.  I plan on getting a friend of machinist friend of mine to see if he can rustle me up a new mounting clamp for it. 


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: dlearl476 on July 06, 2009, 06:02:24 PM
I did not actually intend for it to sit this low, but the lower triple is as high as can be on the 999 forks without having the upper edge clamped on to air (from where the forks taper back down to 50mm on the way to the top).  stock fork tube.  I plan on getting a friend of machinist friend of mine to see if he can rustle me up a new mounting clamp for it. 

I can see what you mean now from one of the pics.  I'd check into the possibility of having your machinist friend make a shim, maybe.
Quote
It isn't scary nervous at all, just "quick".   :D   

I'd just be careful, in my world, the difference between "just quick" and "tank slapper" is about the size of a small rock in the road.   [laugh]


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 07, 2009, 07:18:27 AM
machinist friends? those must be nice, i'd love to have one


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on July 07, 2009, 09:13:39 AM
machinist friends? those must be nice, i'd love to have one

Shoosh you!  Welcome out of your cave.  ;)


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 07, 2009, 10:30:08 AM
Shoosh you!  Welcome out of your cave.  ;)

oh, i'm still in it... i'm just at work right now


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on July 07, 2009, 10:55:05 AM
Good.  While you're there, whittle me up a new steering damper clamp.  :D


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on July 07, 2009, 11:03:17 AM
I'm curious, tho, how do you like the new 4-pads?

Sorry I didn't reply to this sooner James, but I was waiting for the pads in the calipers to bed in with the rotors.  Now, with about 200 miles on it since the install, I can say HOLY SHIT!  These things have so much more STOP in them than the stock calipers!!  If you go this route, make sure your face shield is down before you grab a hand-full of front brake.  If not you will have one hell of a time finding your eyes after they get popped out of their sockets.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 07, 2009, 11:04:46 AM
Good.  While you're there, whittle me up a new steering damper clamp.  :D

oooohhhh... I'm the machinist friend...


 :-*


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: moto on July 09, 2009, 12:36:45 PM
The trees sit about 15mm lower on the the forks than the stock set up did.  I did not actually intend for it to sit this low, but the lower triple is as high as can be on the 999 forks without having the upper edge clamped on to air (from where the forks taper back down to 50mm on the way to the top).  It isn't scary nervous at all, just "quick".   :D  I do have a top mount Ohlins damper kit for the bike, but the mount was originally designed to clamp onto the 50mm stock fork tube.  I plan on getting a friend of machinist friend of mine to see if he can rustle me up a new mounting clamp for it. 

Try raising the front a little. I did that on our SC and it felt more stable. I did not measure it before and after, but I think it lost a little bit of trail when it was lower in the front.

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/Motowheels%20Sport%20Classic/DSC02472.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/Motowheels%20Sport%20Classic/DSC02473.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/Motowheels%20Sport%20Classic/DSC02475.jpg)


-M


Title: Re: BSTs Finally done.
Post by: Jarvicious on July 10, 2009, 01:40:47 PM
I know it's jsut the lighting in this pic, but I got really pumped when I though you had painted the thing orange.  I like orange. 


(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0015-1.jpg)


Back to the thread at hand :).  Every time I see one of thes bikes with some goodies on it, I get more and more inclined to go into serious debt to obtain one. 


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on July 10, 2009, 02:51:55 PM
Ironically enough, this particular shade of yellow is more orangish than many, almost like a mango hue.

Here is a pic of it out in natural light.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC00148.jpg)


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: junior varsity on July 11, 2009, 05:22:53 AM
good googely moogely.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: Drunken Monkey on July 11, 2009, 10:19:25 AM
Man, that Zard spaghetti exhaust is teh sexorz



Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on July 11, 2009, 12:28:00 PM
Man, that Zard spaghetti exhaust is teh sexorz

It does look nice, doesn't it.  I would almost be tempted to pick one up, but I just love the way the 2-into-1 Termi sounds too much.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: junior varsity on July 11, 2009, 12:38:33 PM
Buy a second bike so you can have one of each!

(i could easily do that with my monster and get a second one to work mods differently on it as well)


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: He Man on July 12, 2009, 11:27:07 AM
i dont see a point in getting 2 exact same bikes just to have different exahusts...

if your doing to do something insane, do it right. buy another gt1000 and throw a 4v 999 engine in it....and then put zards on it!  ;D


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: junior varsity on July 12, 2009, 11:34:08 AM
That's more what I was thinking - two bikes, and mod them to be different. One could be a friendly looking, classy cafe ride, the other a monstrosity of motorcycle.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on July 12, 2009, 05:01:01 PM
i dont see a point in getting 2 exact same bikes just to have different exahusts...

if your doing to do something insane, do it right. buy another gt1000 and throw a 4v 999 engine in it....and then put zards on it!  ;D

GT1000?  Bite your tongue young man!


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: kopfjäger on July 13, 2009, 10:38:03 AM
Man, that Zard spaghetti exhaust is teh sexorz



Here's a quick sound clip.  ;)


Sport 1000 with ZARD first test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZT_Z0fS0_Y#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on July 13, 2009, 11:46:15 AM
Yep, I know someone with those pipes on their SC, and they do sound nice.  I just prefer the sound of my Termis better.   [thumbsup]


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: Cider on July 15, 2009, 08:20:41 AM
I so want a Sport Classic now.  Thanks a lot guys.  >:(


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 15, 2009, 08:29:57 AM
I so want a Sport Classic now.  Thanks a lot guys.  >:(

only just now?  ;)


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on July 15, 2009, 09:29:52 PM

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/Motowheels%20Sport%20Classic/DSC02472.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/Motowheels%20Sport%20Classic/DSC02473.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/Motowheels%20Sport%20Classic/DSC02475.jpg)


-M


Martin, I sent this to you in an email as well, but thought you might see it here first:

Quick question for you.  I noticed that you guys were able to get the cluster on your sport classic to mount under the top triple, can you please give me a run down how you got it set up?  We were only able to get mine to line up above the triple, and I think it looks much cleaner under.  Also, what headlight mounting bracket are you using on yours?  Thanks man.


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 16, 2009, 09:20:13 AM
Martin, I sent this to you in an email as well, but thought you might see it here first:

Quick question for you.  I noticed that you guys were able to get the cluster on your sport classic to mount under the top triple, can you please give me a run down how you got it set up?  We were only able to get mine to line up above the triple, and I think it looks much cleaner under.  Also, what headlight mounting bracket are you using on yours?  Thanks man.

isn't the gauge lowering a straightfoward mod?

try a search, n00bster  :-*


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: DRKWNG on July 16, 2009, 09:37:31 AM
isn't the gauge lowering a straightfoward mod?

try a search, n00bster  :-*

It's not quite so straightforward with this set up, but you wouldn't know that because you haven't come out to any rides in forever.   [cheeky]


Title: Re: BSTs
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 16, 2009, 09:40:01 AM
It's not quite so straightforward with this set up, but you wouldn't know that because you haven't come out to any rides in forever.   [cheeky]

 [laugh]


bastid...


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