Title: Duc seats Post by: Roscoe on January 08, 2009, 06:45:07 PM I'd like some input on what people would like to see in a new seat. Not only Monster, but any Ducati model you may own. Taller? Shorter? Wider? Narrower? Harder or softer? You get the idea, now share them with me.
Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: corey on January 08, 2009, 08:30:44 PM i want one that isn't constantly pushing me forward on my S2R.
i'm settling for the dp gel seat, it's about the only choice left... sargeant is too high for me, corbin is unobtanium. Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: sfarchie on January 08, 2009, 08:32:11 PM I replaced my seat with the touring seat and it solved the problem with the angle pushing me forward. And it's a bit more cushy, which helps.
Summary: A seat with less forward pitch and more cush. [thumbsup] Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Raux on January 09, 2009, 12:46:11 AM A few of the problems with the new 696 is no space for adding luggage or other items on the rear of the bike. It also has no real grab handle for passengers.
I wanted to turn my bike into a 2-up tourer for next summer around Europe and had looked at the corbin with the rear seat support and the rear rack. but people are saying corbin is on the way out. PLUS the one seat they have for the 696 has issues 1)ugly 2) doesn't fit the seat cover properly. I would like to see a seat that has the options for a grab handle/strap, an extended platform for rear mounted bags and maybe an option for side bags that go out wider than the pipes. and it should have the same feel/style/angle of DP touring seat which is awesome. Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: causeofkaos on January 09, 2009, 07:46:38 AM I got the corbin for my 696 it solved the crush and koosh factor after i sent the damn thing back twice. My first hand experience was absolutely horrible. My advice as far as corbin goes = stop riding motorcycle before buying anything from corbin. in fact let me use some colorful words make the beast with two backs corbin. my 4.5 cents ( yes im very but hurt over my purchase )
Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Smokescreen on January 09, 2009, 09:04:43 AM once upon a time there was a custom seta manufacturer called Corbin that made custom seats. There WERE very nice. But they left the custom game and since then I rarely meet anybody who's happy with their Corbin purchase. They made a smuggler seat for the Blackbird but when I called them, they made it clear that they would never make anything like that for Ducatis, after all, who would buy a solo seat with a locking storage compartment built into the back, and it wasn't worth doing a one off to gauge customer feedback...
In short, I love my Seargent seat. It's wider, so it feels taller, but for touring, it couldn't be better. The material they use is easy to slide on in leathers, and I love that for quick position changes. If you can use the Seargent and get toes down on both side, I'd highly recomend it. did I mention Seargent uses their own seat bucket, with an integrated stowage cylinder in it?! I keep all my papers, a flat head and a shorty wrench in mine. I could fit the rest of the toolbox in there, but suspension tools are all I really need. Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Darth Paul on January 09, 2009, 09:14:22 AM Can anyone comment on whether or not there are issues getting the stock seat cowl to fit over a sargent seat?
Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: duccarlos on January 09, 2009, 09:19:47 AM There should not be an issue. I've seen plenty of Sargents with the seat cowl. I find the choices simple. For tall people, get the sargent. For short people, get the DP gel seat.
Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: OverCaffeinated on January 09, 2009, 09:42:11 AM If I had the cash to have someone make the perfect seat for me. It would push me more forward, be slightly more narrow and lower, all in relation to the stock seat. And made of something other than vinyl, like Alcantara for where my butt goes, and leather elsewhere.
Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Sleeper_I on January 10, 2009, 07:12:32 PM This is the DP lower seat, not the touring seat, for the 696/1100:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3186738664_3ddbb68dbc.jpg?v=0) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3330/3186740334_37d1a2fdb3.jpg?v=0) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3312/3186741088_4b09533eeb.jpg?v=0) Pros: 20mm lower (as advertise for short Ducatistis) Less, much less, of a forward angle compare to stock (Happy manhood [thumbsup]) Smooth alcantara (I think) material for rider's buns (The guys at the dealer agreed the feel is much better than the DP touring material) Semi rough (read non-slippery) but cushy composite material for passenger's buns Better cushions compare to stock (even though there are less material) Red stitching is nice Fits the rear cowl nicely and looks better than stock Con: the width is the same with less material underneath making it more flatter than stock. This translate to a more of a bowed leg feel with both feet down and result in not much of a gain in the feet to ground contact over the stock height. I say more of a 10mm advantage and not 20mm advantage over stock. But still very happy with the purchase. Worth it [moto] Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: mrplease on February 10, 2009, 05:53:56 AM can you please take a pic with the seat cover on?
thanks!!! This is the DP lower seat, not the touring seat, for the 696/1100: (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3186738664_3ddbb68dbc.jpg?v=0) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3330/3186740334_37d1a2fdb3.jpg?v=0) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3312/3186741088_4b09533eeb.jpg?v=0) Pros: 20mm lower (as advertise for short Ducatistis) Less, much less, of a forward angle compare to stock (Happy manhood [thumbsup]) Smooth alcantara (I think) material for rider's buns (The guys at the dealer agreed the feel is much better than the DP touring material) Semi rough (read non-slippery) but cushy composite material for passenger's buns Better cushions compare to stock (even though there are less material) Red stitching is nice Fits the rear cowl nicely and looks better than stock Con: the width is the same with less material underneath making it more flatter than stock. This translate to a more of a bowed leg feel with both feet down and result in not much of a gain in the feet to ground contact over the stock height. I say more of a 10mm advantage and not 20mm advantage over stock. But still very happy with the purchase. Worth it [moto] Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: angler on February 10, 2009, 07:32:21 AM I have a Corbin that came with my 2005 S2R. I have been very happy with the Corbin comfort wise, but it has no storage underneath. I am a tall guy, though and am thinking about buying the Sargent for the extra inch and the storage. Anybody want to buy a corbin......
Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: hypurone on February 10, 2009, 07:50:09 AM I have comfortably & firmly donned my flamesuit before writing this thread, so let it rip.... [laugh]
I have had no probs with a seat I had made by Corbin. It solved a problem I had with the seat on my Mean Streak and is fantastically comfortable. There was a huge choice of options and cover materials etc. I think the problem here is, unless you ride the bike in there and it is available for test sitting/fitting, you aren't gonna get a 100% custom/perfect fit that everyone thinks is gonna come out of the box in the mail. Look at the DP gel, Sargeant and touring seats. Not everyone is happy with those either... I can ride the bike all day with no discomfort (got some previously broken/fractured bits). The Corbin's DO feel hard at first sit but they DO break in after a bit. Even though I have the DP gel seat currently on my S4RS and it is hugely better than the stocker, I am seriously considering going back to Corbin and having one made for the RS! [thumbsup] just my .02... Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Darth Paul on February 10, 2009, 08:21:16 AM I have a Corbin that came with my 2005 S2R. I have been very happy with the Corbin comfort wise, but it has no storage underneath. I am a tall guy, though and am thinking about buying the Sargent for the extra inch and the storage. Anybody want to buy a corbin...... I have a Sargent for sale, wanna trade? :) Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Mash on February 10, 2009, 08:25:49 AM Can anyone comment on whether or not there are issues getting the stock seat cowl to fit over a sargent seat? My s2r1k seat cowl fits over the sargent seat. It's a little more snug than the OEM seat, but not so much it would cause damage. Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: angler on February 10, 2009, 08:42:16 AM I have a Sargent for sale, wanna trade? :) You serious? I would definitely consider it. I'll PM you. Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: angler on February 10, 2009, 08:54:47 AM Slight threadjack - how is it for a passenger on the Sargent seat? It looks like it might be a bit less secure..... I don't carry passengers that often, but when I do, I don't want them sliding off.
Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Sleeper_I on February 10, 2009, 12:39:32 PM can you please take a pic with the seat cover on? thanks!!! I'll take a pic when the weather clears up a bit Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: mrplease on February 11, 2009, 11:59:46 AM thanks!
Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Sleeper_I on February 12, 2009, 02:44:58 PM Here ya go Mr.,
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3535/3274600593_f8f7636979.jpg?v=0) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3438/3275421798_b7815195f7.jpg?v=0) Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: mrplease on February 12, 2009, 06:28:34 PM AWSOME! i really appreciate the pics! looks great...
its on my list of future mods! Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Norm on February 13, 2009, 07:15:33 AM narrower, harder, and shaped so you naturally rest just short of the tank.
Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: geoffduc on February 14, 2009, 02:54:50 AM My s2r1k seat cowl fits over the sargent seat. It's a little more snug than the OEM seat, but not so much it would cause damage. I've had the same sargent seat on my last three monsters and have not had any problem with the fitment of the cowl,plus i find it alot more comfortable than the stock seat [clap] [coffee] Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: slowpoke13 on February 14, 2009, 03:38:11 AM who would buy a solo seat with a locking storage compartment built into the back, and it wasn't worth doing a one off to gauge customer feedback... When I was down in OZ, one of the locals showed me his seat. It's made in France for the Monster. Limited quantities. A bit on the pricey side. Made by hand. http://www.saddle-box.net/ (http://www.saddle-box.net/) I've got one on order (don't need it till Summer anyway). There's an acre of storage under the seat. Thankfully, the virgins take good care of the fragile stuff. Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Mojo S2R on February 14, 2009, 02:12:33 PM When I was down in OZ, one of the locals showed me his seat. It's made in France for the Monster. Limited quantities. A bit on the pricey side. Made by hand. http://www.saddle-box.net/ (http://www.saddle-box.net/) I've got one on order (don't need it till Summer anyway). There's an acre of storage under the seat. Thankfully, the virgins take good care of the fragile stuff. Post some pix and review when you get it. [popcorn] Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: cloud2blue on February 14, 2009, 06:15:41 PM Big T has one on his.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=4422.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=4422.0) Would be very cool if they were not so fracking expensive. Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: BaZgA on March 06, 2009, 01:17:42 AM It would be nice if you could compare it with DP performance seat
This is the DP lower seat, not the touring seat, for the 696/1100: (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3312/3186741088_4b09533eeb.jpg?v=0) Pros: 20mm lower (as advertise for short Ducatistis) Less, much less, of a forward angle compare to stock (Happy manhood [thumbsup]) Smooth alcantara (I think) material for rider's buns (The guys at the dealer agreed the feel is much better than the DP touring material) Semi rough (read non-slippery) but cushy composite material for passenger's buns Better cushions compare to stock (even though there are less material) Red stitching is nice Fits the rear cowl nicely and looks better than stock Con: the width is the same with less material underneath making it more flatter than stock. This translate to a more of a bowed leg feel with both feet down and result in not much of a gain in the feet to ground contact over the stock height. I say more of a 10mm advantage and not 20mm advantage over stock. But still very happy with the purchase. Worth it [moto] Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Sleeper_I on March 06, 2009, 05:20:35 PM It would be nice if you could compare it with DP performance seat Are you refering to the touring seat? If so, unfortunately, I don't have one to compare it to. But I do remember seating on one at the dealer. One noticable different is the touring seat have the same concave shape at the groin cussion as the stock seat where as the lower seat have more of a flat area between the groin. For me, the flatter shape puts less pressure underneath my manhood and more on my buns. Another is the lower seat have an alcantara type skin for the rider compare to the rough texture the touring seat have. But I have not had a chance to take one with the touring seat out for a long ride to compare.Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: Monstermash on March 06, 2009, 08:36:02 PM I've had the same sargent seat on my last three monsters and have not had any problem with the fitment of the cowl,plus i find it alot more comfortable than the stock seat [clap] [coffee] +1 on the Sargent. I've had them on both of my Monsters, my 999, my 749, and my old R1. Nothing better IMO. Title: Re: Duc seats Post by: BaZgA on March 07, 2009, 02:26:37 AM Are you refering to the touring seat? If so, unfortunately, I don't have one to compare it to. Yes I was refering to it. It would be great to see that comparison |