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Title: Firefox or I.E
Post by: Super T.I.B on May 12, 2008, 08:25:31 PM
For all the computer geeks, just a couple of questions if you will. What is the big diff in Firefox over Windows I.E. I've heard people on here say i run firefox blah, blah, blah it's the best, it can pour milk on my weeties while washing my back in the shower blah, blah, blah.

Would it be worth my while running Firefox instead if I.E?

Does anyone on here in Oz use it and say's it's the ducks guts?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.  [coffee]

 [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: mattyvas on May 12, 2008, 09:03:28 PM
I'm not that computer geeky by a long shot but I use Firefox.
It just seems to run faster on a Mac, there is also Opera that a friend of mine uses as well as Camino.

there you go two more things for you to check out......


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: pepsduc on May 12, 2008, 09:32:05 PM
I use MS DOS.
you mean, there is a better way????  [laugh]


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: melvin on May 12, 2008, 09:43:04 PM
firefox on my iMac
far more superior to anything else because...............................
i personally like the "new tab" function most


try it and if you don't like it - remove it


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: BadBoyBubby on May 12, 2008, 10:51:17 PM
Firefox is the ducks guts.
I use it on my home PC and I use IE on my work PC only because our IT department doesn't support Firefox.
Not that I have any personal grudge against Bill Gates, but his product is not up to my demanding standards... 'n that.


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: Super T.I.B on May 12, 2008, 11:22:00 PM
Rightio then, i will give it a go.

Thanks for the input fella's.  [thumbsup]

now, one more question.....I will post another thread. [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: monstermick58 on May 12, 2008, 11:27:15 PM
Well there ya go, I just tried to log in through Firefox (as usual) and it just gave me an error so out I went and over to B Gates house knocked on his door, well here I am...








                                   Mmick (Firefox has never done that before)


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: Spider on May 12, 2008, 11:30:03 PM
Firefox has tabs (tabs hold screens all in one window) keeps the desktop nice and clean - and it also has a 'restore previous session' if it gets closed down (failure, power, shut down without closing). very useful.

If it's within your means I highly recommend one.


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: Super T.I.B on May 12, 2008, 11:30:14 PM
Geez Mick, you're not just a pretty face.

You're more computer smart than me, though it wouldn't take much. :P


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: giannig on May 13, 2008, 12:00:57 AM
I use Firefox as well. Dont need to be an IT geek. I like the fact there are a lot of neat add on modules developed by the Firefox community to personalise the browser like the PDF function for better PDF downloading and the smart toolbar option. There are hundreds to choose from.


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: Super T.I.B on May 13, 2008, 12:02:56 AM
Well, I just downloaded it and running it now. DAMN! It's way quicker than I.E.!

Thanks for that!  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: BadBoyBubby on May 13, 2008, 01:24:56 AM
And with Firefox you can run StumbleUpon for some fun:

http://www.stumbleupon.com/ (http://www.stumbleupon.com/)


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: R_usty on May 13, 2008, 03:11:41 AM
I am another dedicated Firefox user but I also use Opera and occasionally Safari - IE is way to BIG and FAT and SLOW.....


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: ptooey on May 13, 2008, 03:19:00 AM
Not that it matters anymore now that everybody's already on this ad-free forum,
but if you use Firefox you can install an add-on that auto-hides any banner ads that you see on most sites that you may be perusing, including the old DML forums.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865)

Because of this addon, I didn't initially understand why everyone was jumping ship from the other forum.

In summary, the major advantage to Firefox is that you can add an infinite number of addons/extensions that make your browser experience better.


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: DosVerde on May 13, 2008, 03:22:15 AM
I use both, 'cos I'm the nazi at work who forces you to use Internet Explorer, and tells you what sites you can't see  [evil]

Esentially it's the old story of 1/2 dozen of one, 6 of the other:

IE7
I'm typing this through IE7 at the moment, I have Firefox on my laptop, but usually default to IE as it generally has less compatability issues.
IE7 has tabs same as Firefox
Hard to get rid of Microsoft default searches, brought to you by Microsoft.
IE7.com is a link page to Firefox  8)
IE7 looks better than Firefox in Vista

Firefox
Firefox has a lot of cool add-ons, but you need to spend a bit of time to get common viewers working that come standard with IE.
Mac users love Firefox simply because Safari which comes with OS X is rubbish.
I agree, the "restore prevous sessions" is a great feature
Better in-page search functionality
It's not Microsoft


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: goldFiSh on May 13, 2008, 03:49:06 AM
I am being forced to use IE at work so all our interal shit works - sharepoint etcc.

on my mac i use firefox...

I'm not really all that fussed - yeah extensions are cool, but not a deal breaker...

I do however like the google sync thing within firefox - lets me keep all my bookmarks across multiple machines (and more if you want / dare)




Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: Betty on May 13, 2008, 03:52:18 PM
Different but related (sort of) issue for you Mac guys (sorry to jack your thread Super but I think you got your answer). One of the guys at work is looking for a laptop to play around with his video and photos at his home away from home. His old film scanner uses a scsi drive to connect to his desktop. He is considering a Mac as it is meant to be better for this sort of thing but it goes against everything else he owns and uses.

It may also mean buying a new film scanner, etc .... but why should he go Mac? and will it cost him in terms of establishment cost (ie. new software/hardware) other than the machine.

Thanks for any help but I know you guys love plugging your Macs


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: loony888 on May 14, 2008, 12:18:09 AM
i use safari on my mac and am blissfully ignorant of the benefits to firefox, is it really better?
as for IE, anything that comes from windows has way to many holes, backdoors, trojan horses etc etc, bill gates is the devil you know??
not that am paranoid or have anything to hide, but i won't even run WMP cause it apparently logs your viewing activity for nosey cretins to monitor.


paul.



Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: mattyvas on May 14, 2008, 12:25:47 AM
hey Paul

Go download it, FF that is you might be nicely surprised at how it runs.

Matty...


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: DosVerde on May 14, 2008, 12:48:09 AM
Different but related (sort of) issue for you Mac guys (sorry to jack your thread Super but I think you got your answer). One of the guys at work is looking for a laptop to play around with his video and photos at his home away from home. His old film scanner uses a scsi drive to connect to his desktop. He is considering a Mac as it is meant to be better for this sort of thing but it goes against everything else he owns and uses.

It may also mean buying a new film scanner, etc .... but why should he go Mac? and will it cost him in terms of establishment cost (ie. new software/hardware) other than the machine.

Thanks for any help but I know you guys love plugging your Macs

It used to be that MAC's were superior as a video and graphics machine, but these days the guts of them are the same as your Windows running laptops, Intel CPU's and NVidia graphics cards, so there is no real performace difference, even OS X is getting a bit bloaty these days. (it's OK I can say this, I have an Imac at home as well)

I would say, stick with what you know. If your friend knows OS X, then get a MAC, If he has other Windows PC's then stick with that. The standard graphics manipulation programs on the MAC are probably better for a home users, however my Sony laptop came with a nice suite of programs including Photoshop Elements which is fine for cleaning up and resizing pics. Most well known brands do this.

My recomendation would be to buy as much RAM as you can, say 2GB, it's not too expensive. and make sure it has a dedicated NVidia or ATI video card with it's own memory. The cheaper laptops with the intergrated Intel graphics are slow (especially with Vista) and they use the systems memory reducing the amount left for your programs. The Macbook Pro already has the good specs so it's fine as it comes.

Hope that helps,  BTW, Harris Technology have Ducati badged 4GB USB memory sticks that are red and look like a fuel tank side on  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: goldFiSh on May 14, 2008, 01:12:54 AM
I'm not gonna disagree, I own and use both, and whilst I prefer the mac, usability counts, and if you are the type that knows what they know and just want it to work without re-learning, then the PC may be the go.

It may also mean buying a new film scanner, etc ....

More than likely, or an aftermarket SCSI card. And this would go for either - difference is the cheaper macs don't have slots, so you would probably have to replace the film scanner with a USB device. Not that this would be a big issue, unless it is uber-resolution and specialised...




Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: Betty on May 14, 2008, 01:48:53 PM
Thanks guys. I did suggest to him that a new scsi card would probably go a long way towards a new film scanner - he was surprised that they all seem to be usb rather than firewire.


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: DosVerde on May 14, 2008, 02:15:17 PM
I have an urge to get really nerdy...

USB 2.0 is not that much slower than firewire 400, this would not be an issue for your mid spec scanner. USB 2 runs at 480mbps (megabits per second), say a good quality scanned image is 5mb (megabytes) in size, times that by 8 (8 bits in a byte) to get 40 megabits to be transfered, the data should be transferred in about 0.15 seconds (plus a bit of overhead at the start and end).

The slow bit is the software doing it software thing and the scanner doing its scan thing. USB 1.0 was painfully slower but fortunatley is never seen on hardware these days.

You can't fit a SCSI card in a laptop anyway....

/nerdy rant  [moto]


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: kutter on May 14, 2008, 02:25:48 PM
For those of you that want to run a different browser at work, Firefox and Opera can both be run from a flashdrive. In fact Opera has a configuration that you can download that will set it up for you completely, not sure about Firefox as someone else gave me a flashdrive with it already installed.


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: Betty on May 14, 2008, 02:32:59 PM
Thanks DosVerde - I knew the DMF was the right place to ask about IT issues  [roll] [moto]


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: BadBoyBubby on May 14, 2008, 05:43:55 PM
I get my IT info from the 'The IT Crowd' - Wed nights, ABC TV.

I was so overcome with geekdom last night I think I wet my pants.


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: DosVerde on May 14, 2008, 06:14:36 PM
Thanks DosVerde - I knew the DMF was the right place to ask about IT issues  [roll] [moto]
Embarrasing isn't it.

I get my IT info from the 'The IT Crowd' - Wed nights, ABC TV.

I was so overcome with geekdom last night I think I wet my pants.
As long as you don't Goolge google...


Title: Re: Firefox or I.E
Post by: Spider on May 14, 2008, 11:52:31 PM
DosVerde, can you programme my ECU, please?

nice work  [thumbsup]


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