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Title: Warming her up down under
Post by: Two dogs on January 14, 2009, 05:31:44 PM
How long should I warm her up ?
I have searched but I dont think the Nth Hemi winter is releavent to our conditions.

At 1100 rpm @ idle wouldn't the oil get distributed to all nooks and crannies (highly teck term) fairly quickly ?
I can feel the difference on a cool night , she dosen't perform well cold and is a little cranky and surges off the line lurching and bucking. ;D
But on a hot day how long is long enough ?

 The LOW temp indicator seems to take for ever to register 50 o C
Should I be waiting for the LOW to go and If I don't am I causing Fluffy any harm ?

So how long do you spend warming her up before riding ?
Ah I can see someone with a deviant mind making some comparisons to the missus  [laugh]
but I would also like a serious answer as well.
thanks
dez


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: heatherp on January 14, 2009, 05:43:41 PM
Jeez, if I waited for the lo to stop flashing I'd go through a tank of juice not to mention being lynched by the neighbours as I'm already known in this hick town as the person with the noisy motorbike (surprised they can hear it over the banjos and chainsaws).  Some days down here in Mexico I can ride half way to Melbourne (150km) and it's still flashing lo.

I warm it up for as long as it takes me to do up the jacket, insert earplugs, turn on ipod, put on helmet and gloves.  But do tend to take it easy for the first 5-10 kms.

Didn't know there was any technical guff on the subject.

Don't have a mister (missus)  :( so can't comment there.


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: mattyvas on January 14, 2009, 06:20:31 PM
When I first got my bike it was one of the first things I asked.
I was told exactly as Heather said, for as long as it takes to put on your lid, gloves and do your jacket up.
The warming up will be done on the road, just as long as it idles when you take off you`re in business.


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Six95 on January 14, 2009, 06:50:06 PM
I do what Heather and Matty do.
I was told when I bought it to wait for the LO to stop flashing. I did it religously then got fed up with waiting and waiting and still waiting.
After I got my DP ECU - I really had not much choice but to do the quick warm up. It runs really rich now and the garage warm up was quite intoxicating.


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: goldFiSh on January 14, 2009, 07:13:21 PM
When I first got my bike it was one of the first things I asked.
I was told exactly as Heather said, for as long as it takes to put on your lid, gloves and do your jacket up.
The warming up will be done on the road, just as long as it idles when you take off you`re in business.

+1. My 03 M800 has a fast idle lever, and I leave that on for the first coupld of minutes if it's colder. Other than that, once I'm ready, the bikes ready to go. ;D


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: loony888 on January 14, 2009, 11:38:19 PM
screw the neighbours! as far as i'm concerned if the bike will idle cold without the fast idle all the better, i usually let mine idle at least until the lo on the lcd readout has gone, this really is a must on the 4 valvers to avoid the rocker issue (mine has done 24k most of it getting flogged and my rockers are fine and my clearances haven't needed much adjusting. on an air cooled bike, waiting for the lo temp to go out takes an eternity so as the others have said, get it started, get your gear on and go, but don't frap it too much till the oil temp is up to near normal. [thumbsup]


paul.



Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Jukie on January 15, 2009, 02:05:14 AM
hey loony, please don't take Trev serious, i don't think he explained it too well.It is hard to know what people mean when you cant see there face or hear their tone of voice, i know i have had it happen to me. it is hard to sometime tell what people are try to say when there is a pun or joke in it. how about i try and make things better by giving you a kiss Paul  :-*


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: MonsterDorf on January 15, 2009, 02:08:17 AM
Back on topic...............(and yes we do have some fun on our rides).

I warm my bike (2V) for at least 5 min and in summer that just about gives me 50 degrees C. I then take it easy, 2 -3000 rpm, light throttle, until she reaches normal operating temp (between 80 - 100 degrees).

I've noticed that my oil temp exceeds 105 on occasion (mainly riding with Loony) so I guess full synth oil is a good thing  :)


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: loony888 on January 15, 2009, 02:08:18 AM
hey loony, please don't take Trev serious, i don't think he explained it too well.It is hard to know what people mean when you cant see there face or hear their tone of voice, i know i have had it happen to me. it is hard to sometime tell what people are try to say when there is a pun or joke in it. how about i try and make things better by giving you a kiss Paul  :-*


awww, ok jukie.
where?

paul.
hey bigT, it's cool, no worries, ok?


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Spider on January 15, 2009, 02:08:39 AM
let's not get nasty here....leave the pregnant doginess to me (and Brendan - the sticker princess!!!!)


Heather, your bike is a girl!....she's always a bit cold I reckon...cause our bikes were pretty different temps (by about 10 degrees) when we rode together out to Warburton. She needs a doona and a hot chocolate I reckon!


right, on the 2 valver, it takes frickin 5 to 10 minutes to get that light off.....so as per the goldfish-maester, throw the gear on (another reason to leave it downstairs where it can get nicked by scumbags) and take it sleazy for the first 5.

the 695 (and all 6 series) where the only 2 valves not to have an oil cooler out the front if i'm barking up the right tree.....so does that mean he's engine intrinsically runs a little cooler than the 803 and 992 mills?  


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Big T on January 15, 2009, 02:10:01 AM

awww, ok jukie.
where?

paul.
hey bigT, it's cool, no worries, ok?

No worries Paul... Is all cool......... [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Jukie on January 15, 2009, 02:10:54 AM

awww, ok jukie.
where?

paul.
hey bigT, it's cool, no worries, ok?

you can have several where ever you want


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Big T on January 15, 2009, 02:15:51 AM
Okay I ride a 4V with some 14k on the clock.

I let her warm up till the LCD low flasher stops which is usually gear putting on time.

Then take it easy for a few kms to get especially me and the Monster warmed up.

Then its a free for all........  [moto]


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: bazz20 on January 15, 2009, 02:52:35 AM
first i start by asking is there any thing i can do for her then give her a little kiss then move onto cuddles then take her to the bed room then ask who she would like me to be tonight by then she warmed up , oh your talking about bloody bikes again sorry wrong forum :-[


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: ducsport on January 15, 2009, 03:19:40 AM
Dez, +1 on the warm up while putting gear on. Mine is a 620, no oil cooler. It takes forever to warm up on the fast idle lever, so I give it a minute or two, then ride gently until it is up to temp. I found it strange at first the range of oil temps the bike operates at, depending on the ambient temp. Some days in winter it won't get higher than about 90 degrees, while in summer I have seen 110 degrees when crawling in traffic. All seems normal tho. ducsport


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: dragonworld. on January 15, 2009, 10:32:52 AM
When the beast is idling by itself (Usually a minute or two) take off and keep it cruisy for a couple of kays! [thumbsup]

In winter it'll take 15-20 k before the temp hets high enough to register on the readout!  ;D


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Super T.I.B on January 15, 2009, 12:43:50 PM
Start it, put my gear on & go.

But I have noticed that when I haven't ran it for a couple of days, I have to warm it up longer because she refuses to click into gear, pull in teh clutch, step down onto gear shift, goes CLUNK! & stops. Have to let her warm up for a fair while and pull the clutch in a few times before she will go into gear. Don't know if the clutch pull or the warming up is the one that actually helps??? I have heard that the oil gets sticky or their is no oil on the clutch plates which makes it refuse to go into gear.  ???
the 695 (and all 6 series) where the only 2 valves not to have an oil cooler out the front if i'm barking up the right tree.....so does that mean he's engine intrinsically runs a little cooler than the 803 and 992 mills?  

No, they run hotter.


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Jukie on January 15, 2009, 01:47:52 PM
well what me and betty do is very simular, but because there is two of us it takes a bit long to get the gear on so sometime they are already warmed up, if not they are by the time we make it to the express way which is about 5-10  minutes up the road


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Two dogs on January 15, 2009, 01:50:29 PM
Thanks for the answers , seems I am doing the same as everyone .
Hmmmm now back to the missus  [bow_down]


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Spider on January 15, 2009, 03:21:08 PM
Thanks for the answers , seems I am doing the same as everyone .
Hmmmm now back to the missus  [bow_down]

try a foot massage afgter letting her soak them in a tub of hot water (with muscle soak)...followed by some peppermint moisturiser.

you're half way there!



Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: madalf71 on January 15, 2009, 03:21:23 PM
Howdy All .

Start up, run until off fast idle lever.
Lock up, dress up and go, take it easy for first few streets <3000rpm.
Cardboard over oil cooler in winter when doing the work run.

Longer warm up if going straight on to the local Ringroad.

Spider Re-Warbo run, mine was just under Hs temp.

Super TIB, Have simliar problem with S2R800 wet clutch from cold, pull in clutch, give bike a few revs and then click into gear.
Helps heaps, found in a DMF Post in Tech ages ago.

Cheers All.


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: heatherp on January 16, 2009, 12:00:16 AM
Heather, your bike is a girl!....she's always a bit cold I reckon...cause our bikes were pretty different temps (by about 10 degrees) when we rode together out to Warburton. She needs a doona and a hot chocolate I reckon!

Spider, now I'm confused.  A few weeks ago my bike was a 'boys' bike now your calling it a girl.  No wonder it's confused.  Think I need the doona and hot chocloate!



Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: heatherp on January 16, 2009, 12:08:27 AM
screw the neighbours! as far as i'm concerned.
paul.

I wouldn't want to.  I live in a small country town where the most popular music is deliverance and they stare at us outsiders.  My neighbour is a  [leo]. and I don't have any points left on my licence.  My bike is also a 2 valve so different rules for me.   :)

Re; how hot they get  I've had mine up 135oC in Melbourne going through all those traffic lights and yes, I freaked and the bike was quite 'rattley' (is that a word?).  Research I have done suggests that the Shell synthetic oil recommended by Ducati is good up to temps of 175oC and I was told not to worry.  Still changed the oil when I got home though.


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: dragonworld. on January 16, 2009, 01:02:00 AM
When the beast is idling by itself (Usually a minute or two) take off and keep it cruisy for a couple of kays! [thumbsup]

In winter it'll take 15-20 k before the temp hets high enough to register on the readout!  ;D

Now that is the 1000DS.

The old 750 needs a bit longer to start running cleaner and will not warm up in colder weather. Unless I cover the oil cooler in cold weather it will not get to operating temperature (55k trip to work.) with the associated carby icing and farting and belching. ;D

Aaaaah such character, its definately a girl.  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Dockstrada on January 16, 2009, 01:46:09 AM
Spider, now I'm confused.  A few weeks ago my bike was a 'boys' bike now your calling it a girl.  No wonder it's confused.  Think I need the doona and hot chocloate!



Its a hermaphrodite  [cheeky]


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: goldFiSh on January 16, 2009, 03:04:00 AM
Re; how hot they get  I've had mine up 135oC in Melbourne going through all those traffic lights and yes, I freaked and the bike was quite 'rattley' (is that a word?). 

135! Shit, mines got to abut 120 or there abouts, but 135, I'd be shitting myself as well!


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: heatherp on January 16, 2009, 03:45:46 AM
135! Shit, mines got to abut 120 or there abouts, but 135, I'd be shitting myself as well!


That's why ya don't go riding air cooled bikes in Melbourne on the hottest day of the year.  All that sitting at traffic lights isn't good for her/him.  He/She normally sits anywhere between 75-90  usually.

Its a hermaphrodite  [cheeky]
Ah so that's why parts for my bike are difficult to get.  It's all so clear now.   [wine]/ [drink]


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: Spider on January 16, 2009, 07:11:19 PM
Don't know about the sex of your bike heather....

know that the rear wheel was a real pregnant dog though  :)


Title: Re: Warming her up down under
Post by: heatherp on January 16, 2009, 09:41:55 PM
Don't know about the sex of your bike heather....

know that the rear wheel was a real pregnant dog though  :)

No argument there!


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