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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: cloud2blue on January 16, 2009, 07:06:39 PM

Title: Air / Fuel Mixture
Post by: cloud2blue on January 16, 2009, 07:06:39 PM
I have a 2000 m750, which is carbureted. When I purchased it used, the airbox lid had been chopped and it had Conti Replica Trumpets. I recently installed a Quat-D Ex-Box and now the mixture is lean. (White spark plugs, "backfires" from exhaust when I chop the throttle, correct me if I'm wrong)

As I understand it, I have 2 options: 1) re-jet to increase fuel, or 2) restrict the air coming into the airbox.

Is there a reason I should pick one option over the other? Is there a better option I'm forgetting?

I'm hoping restricting the airbox, because it would be something I could do myself.
Title: Re: Air / Fuel Mixture
Post by: ducpainter on January 16, 2009, 07:23:23 PM
Quote from: cloud2blue on January 16, 2009, 07:06:39 PM
I have a 2000 m750, which is carbureted. When I purchased it used, the airbox lid had been chopped and it had Conti Replica Trumpets. I recently installed a Quat-D Ex-Box and now the mixture is lean. (White spark plugs, "backfires" from exhaust when I chop the throttle, correct me if I'm wrong)

As I understand it, I have 2 options: 1) re-jet to increase fuel, or 2) restrict the air coming into the airbox.

Is there a reason I should pick one option over the other? Is there a better option I'm forgetting?

I'm hoping restricting the airbox, because it would be something I could do myself.

Either way you are richening the mixture.

Restricting air to the airbox will reduce power...theoretically.
Title: Re: Air / Fuel Mixture
Post by: Norm on January 17, 2009, 07:04:06 AM
The more air you can ingest, the more fuel and more power. Less air = less fuel = less power.
I think the ratio is about 14:1, but tuning is usually done by feel and plug readings.
Title: Re: Air / Fuel Mixture
Post by: Oldfisti on January 17, 2009, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: Norm on January 17, 2009, 07:04:06 AM
The more air you can ingest, the more fuel and more power. Less air = less fuel = less power.
I think the ratio is about 14:1, but tuning is usually done by feel and plug readings.


Or a dyno with an A/F probe.   ;)
Title: Re: Air / Fuel Mixture
Post by: clubhousemotorsports on January 19, 2009, 06:10:42 PM
Before re-jetting take a second look at the new exhaust I have had more than a few bikes come in with leaky exhausts backfiring up a storm.

Ideally you would get it dynoed after checking for leaks, checking air fuel ratios.

For a quick test throw a stock lid on and see how she runs.
Title: Re: Air / Fuel Mixture
Post by: Norm on January 20, 2009, 07:13:49 AM
With an open air box lid, you can take a roll of duct tape with you and add strips of it to cover the filter until you get the best throttle response. I usually do this before I start the plug reading process because unleaded fuels can be a pregnant dog to read.
Of course, I ain't got one of them new fangded dino units you speak of.
Title: Re: Air / Fuel Mixture
Post by: clubhousemotorsports on January 20, 2009, 05:50:26 PM
Norm
you don't always need a dyno but it sure speeds up the process.

I have seen bikes de-tuned because the dyno tuner tuned the bike to run great when sitting in a pressurized room. [laugh]