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Title: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: Mojo S2R on January 24, 2009, 05:26:38 PM
Just found these on the GSG-Mototechnik website

http://www.gsg-mototechnik.de/variogel/ducati-rasten.htm (http://www.gsg-mototechnik.de/variogel/ducati-rasten.htm)

(http://www.gsg-mototechnik.de/variogel/vg_10.jpg)


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: Oldfisti on January 24, 2009, 07:02:04 PM
That's pretty clever right there. Nice alternative when you wanna keep the cost down. Me likey!   [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: Darth Paul on January 24, 2009, 08:02:08 PM
Looks like the MFW pegs you can get from monsterparts.com.  Personally I LOVE them.  Being 6'1" the stock pegs were a little too high for me, but didn't feel like spending $500 on new rearsets.






Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: Mojo S2R on January 24, 2009, 08:24:45 PM
Looks like you may be right and now I have something else I want to get from Jeff.  I wonder if I can order them without the footpegs.  I just ordered some new footpegs and wonder how hard it would be to modify them to mount on that adapter.  I'm guessing just cut off the mount point from my new pegs and drill and tap to mount to the adapter.


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: CDawg on January 25, 2009, 01:48:32 PM
Great find!  Especially given the poor economy!
Me likey!


urgh...not avail for S4RS... :(


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: Mojo S2R on January 25, 2009, 02:10:51 PM
GSG didn't have the S2R listed either.  I think the ones at Monsterparts may work (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/MFW-1/Controls/MFW-1.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/MFW-1/Controls/MFW-1.html)).  The options there are DSS/SSS, 30mm/23mm, and Black/Silver. 

Check with Jeff - he can verify, but I figure if one option is SSS (Single Sided Swingarm) then it should work for our bikes.

I'm also going to ask him if he'll sell just the adapters without the pegs.  I'm thinking of modding some new pegs I just ordered so I can attach them to the adapters.


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: OverCaffeinated on January 25, 2009, 02:21:19 PM
Any positive feedback on these pegs from shorter riders?


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: JEFF_H on January 25, 2009, 02:55:55 PM
FYI-
MFW's chart is wrong on these.
The part number they list for the S2R doesnt work (its a different #)
the part # for the superbikes works on the S4RS

you can get the components separately, but i dont think you'll be able to make different pegs work with the adapter arm part...its pretty specialized.



Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: Mojo S2R on January 25, 2009, 03:30:43 PM
FYI-
MFW's chart is wrong on these.
The part number they list for the S2R doesnt work (its a different #)
the part # for the superbikes works on the S4RS

you can get the components separately, but i dont think you'll be able to make different pegs work with the adapter arm part...its pretty specialized.

Jeff,
Couldn't I just cut the mounting bracket from my new pegs then drill a tapered hole into the end and tap it for the bolts?


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: JEFF_H on January 25, 2009, 03:38:51 PM
<shrug>
im not the expert on do-it-yourself  ;D

if you look at the pic, the adapter and footpeg are fitted together with the round part (and bolt)


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: Mojo S2R on January 25, 2009, 03:47:17 PM
I see what you are saying.  The threads are on the adapter and not on the foot peg.  I thought the bolt went through the adapter and bolted to threads on the foot peg.  If I do decide to continue with my crazy thought and modify it to work the way I think it should how much would I be spending for just the adapter sets with no footpegs?


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: stopintime on January 25, 2009, 04:00:00 PM
Mojo

You will (probably) not be able to get the tolerances/tightness of these sets by modding your pegs. That will lead to too much pressure on the bolts, which is NOT good. The new pegs offer better grip. They are not expensive. Main point is safety! IMO - save your modding for something less risky and more rewarding. The pegs only, are about $35 - please DO NOT risk it to save $35.


Part # adapter 051 030300
          arm      051 000023/-30/-50 (23 or 50 mm length)(forget 50mm)
          pegs     050 000100 - * (* = color code)

These numbers are for S*R bikes.


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: Mojo S2R on January 25, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
I'm not trying to save any money.  I have a brand spanking new set of foot pegs coming in the mail already.  I just found out about these adapters and was thinking about a way to modify my new pegs to work on these. 

If it looks like it's going to be a bad idea then I'll just pass on the adapters for now.  I don't see how running the bolt in one end versus the other end will make a difference on how much pressure is put on the bolts.  If anything, I think it would be stronger if the bolthead is on the opposite side from the peg and the peg acts as a nut.  I don't know.  Just a thought.


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: stopintime on January 25, 2009, 04:28:40 PM
Don't get me wrong - I salute good ideas and curiousity [thumbsup]

My thoughts on the possible weak spot is where the peg connects to the arm - if the peg is not completely flat against the arm and/or the tapered hole isn't perfect, it will rely too much on the bolt, with less support from the contact points between the arm and the peg.

These "rearsets" offer back, up and down effect + combinations. They are the only ones to offer any lowering.
Some people reported issues with them being wider, so your feet would have to be angled inwards to reach the toe pegs - others had no problems.
I heard someone ordered them just to search for the right peg position, so they later on could get the rearsets that offered the right adjustabilities for their needs. Also to be considered is the added reach to the brake/shift, if they are adjusted back.


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: Mojo S2R on January 26, 2009, 10:12:43 AM
So here's my thought...

Below are pictures of the footpegs I've already ordered and the adapter without the footpeg.  I think the adapter pictured is the 30mm model and I will probably get the 23 mm length adapter.   I figure I take both pieces to a machine shop as I want the pieces to match up perfectly.

The way the adapter is designed, the nub on the right is threaded and the MFW footpegs have a bolt go through them and bolt into the adapter (right side on the pic).

I want the machine shop to cut the mount bracket off my new pegs (silver part of the pegs) and modify them and the adapters so they can be mounted together.

Should I -
A) Drill a hole through the adapter and shave the nub and mount the two flush with the bolt going in from the left side of the adapter into the threaded peg or
B) Drill a hole through the adapter and drill a hole into the peg for the nub then marry the two up and then run the bolt through the adapter to the threaded peg.

The guys at the machine shop are probably going to give me their thoughts but I was just curious if there are any engineers out there that can point me to the best solution.


(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3411/oberonpegszq9.th.jpg) (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oberonpegszq9.jpg)
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/449/pegadapterwf7.jpg) (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pegadapterwf7.jpg)
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/pegadapterwf7.jpg/1/w196.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img208/pegadapterwf7.jpg/1/)

Thanks.


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: stopintime on January 26, 2009, 01:40:59 PM
Are those Oberon pegs? If so, they seem to be quite like the MFW Vario
You might find out that they are a perfect swap - do you feel lucky? ;)

http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=38%7CAluminum%20Billet&productID=6679&showDetail=1&categoryID=48 (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=38%7CAluminum%20Billet&productID=6679&showDetail=1&categoryID=48)|Most%20Late%20Model%20Ducati%20Billet&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168%7CEuropean%20Motorcycle%20Parts


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: Mojo S2R on January 26, 2009, 02:15:13 PM
Oh man, oh man, oh man  ;D  Thanks for the link.   [beer]

Yes, they are Oberon's.  From the images I've seen I thought they were solid.  Now, looking at the link you posted, it seems like I may just be in luck.


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: BumpaD_Z28 on January 26, 2009, 11:43:52 PM
I love mine (the MFW's) from Jeff, you can see my review on his site :)

~DaVe


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: SeaS2R on January 27, 2009, 07:13:04 AM
Is anybody using these (or other) adjustable pegs to move their peg position up and back?  Any comments or reviews in that configuration?  Is cornering clearance improved?  Any issues getting to the shifter? 

Thanks!


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: stopintime on January 27, 2009, 04:20:42 PM
Is anybody using these (or other) adjustable pegs to move their peg position up and back?  Any comments or reviews in that configuration?  Is cornering clearance improved?  Any issues getting to the shifter? 

Thanks!

In theory the clearance will improve (no FHE). You will have to ask others whether the stock pegs are first to hit at hard lean angles.
The reach for the shifter depends on the size of your feet/boots. The angle/height of the foot levers are easily adjustable. How it will work for you is hard to say, but I suggest you check out how it looks and works stock to get an idea about how the added reach will turn out for you. For me (other rearsets, but same case) the added reach was welcome. I wear size 12 boots.


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: Latinbalar on January 27, 2009, 04:29:25 PM
My german is a bit rusty, like non-existant, and was wondering if there was some sort of translation.  Like how much for a 620 i.e.?


Title: Re: Adapters for making OEM rearsets adjustable
Post by: stopintime on January 27, 2009, 04:37:17 PM
My german is a bit rusty, like non-existant, and was wondering if there was some sort of translation.  Like how much for a 620 i.e.?

You can call MonsterParts or the US distributor (remember you need three parts, adapter, arm and pegs)

http://www.eurotechmotorsports.com/forms/MyBike.cfm?do=query&new_query=yes&q_string=&q_model=255&q_manufacturer=all&q_brand=all&q_producttype=all (http://www.eurotechmotorsports.com/forms/MyBike.cfm?do=query&new_query=yes&q_string=&q_model=255&q_manufacturer=all&q_brand=all&q_producttype=all)



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