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Moto Board => General Monster Forum => Topic started by: CowboyBeebop on January 26, 2009, 02:42:21 PM

Title: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: CowboyBeebop on January 26, 2009, 02:42:21 PM
I've seen hubless bikes before, but this one's pretty well done:

http://jalopnik.com/5139465/hubless-monster-motorcycle-rolls-without-spokes (http://jalopnik.com/5139465/hubless-monster-motorcycle-rolls-without-spokes)

But in the case of choppers, I actually think I prefer a spoked look.
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: Monster Dave on January 26, 2009, 02:48:43 PM
There was press about this about 4 months ago, it looked interesting but beyond that it's not my cup of tea:  [puke]
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: Porsche Monkey on January 26, 2009, 03:01:55 PM
"We're guessing the immense complication, need for extreme precision and high maintenance needs of the hubless design are the least of Amen's concerns, as this motorcycle wasn't designed to be ridden." :-\
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 26, 2009, 03:07:29 PM
Don't let that get you down. No end of motorcycles are made to be ridden, but aren't. At least this one isn't pretending.
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: superjohn on January 26, 2009, 05:51:21 PM
Quote from: Ducaholic on January 26, 2009, 03:01:55 PM
"We're guessing the immense complication, need for extreme precision and high maintenance needs of the hubless design are the least of Amen's concerns, as this motorcycle wasn't designed to be ridden." :-\

That line made me laugh  [laugh]
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: DucHead on January 26, 2009, 06:15:42 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 26, 2009, 03:07:29 PM
Don't let that get you down. No end of motorcycles are made to be ridden, but aren't. At least this one isn't pretending.

[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: DarkStaR on January 26, 2009, 06:28:03 PM
http://www.choppersinc.com (http://www.choppersinc.com) has been doing this for a while now.
(http://www.choppersinc.com/include/getimage.asp?file=%5Cbikes%5CLG_5256418_18_2006.jpg)
(http://www.choppersinc.com/include/getimage.asp?file=%5Cbikes%5CLG_4872622_14_2007.jpg)
(http://www.choppersinc.com/include/getimage.asp?file=%5Cbikes%5CLG_1487456_9_2006.jpg)
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: scduc on January 26, 2009, 07:11:46 PM
isn't the rear technically a hub? Just really big.
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: zooom on January 26, 2009, 07:21:11 PM
well...1st, he calls it a Monster and I see nothing Monster about it...nothing Ducati about even...

besides...anyone why rides that is taking a serious risk...because people will gawk and someone is going to steer into the bike and wreck it...
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 26, 2009, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: zooom on January 26, 2009, 07:21:11 PM
well...1st, he calls it a Monster and I see nothing Monster about it...nothing Ducati about even...

besides...anyone why rides that is taking a serious risk...because people will gawk and someone is going to steer into the bike and wreck it...

With that logic I should start taking ugly chicks on the back  :P
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: redxblack on January 26, 2009, 09:27:49 PM
reminds me of Akira.
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 26, 2009, 09:37:27 PM
Quote from: redxblack on January 26, 2009, 09:27:49 PM
reminds me of Akira.


(http://www.justusdogs.com.au/upload/flex_img/27052008053152_01.jpg)  ?
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: KopfjÀger on January 26, 2009, 09:46:53 PM
Quote from: redxblack on January 26, 2009, 09:27:49 PM
reminds me of Akira.

Nah.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/akira_bike_3d_03.jpg)
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: Drunken Monkey on January 27, 2009, 12:05:02 AM
Well, I think the wheels are nifty.

The rest of the bike is pure shite, but the wheels... interesting.

We may see more of that sort of thing if electric vehicles become the norm. It's pretty hard to do regenerative braking on the front wheel of a bike without a design like that...
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: the_Journeyman on January 27, 2009, 06:54:54 AM
The wheels are interesting.  I wanna know how the rear wheel is driven and where the brakes are & how they work.

JM
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: thejsnide on January 27, 2009, 08:23:42 AM
I wouldn't want to ride it, but still cool nonetheless.

If you ever watched any of the "Biker Build-Offs" on Discovery a few years ago... Amen and Choppers Inc. have fought over this issue and still can't come to terms with who built it first.  Amen believes Billy Lane stole his concept and that was pretty much all he talked about.  I guess he finally out did him since his design and engineering appear to be a little nicer than the Choppers Inc., but that said, I would take the Choppers Inc. over the Amen.   
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: EvilSteve on January 27, 2009, 11:19:24 AM
Oh, and Billy Lane is going to jail.  [laugh]

Really interesting idea; really ugly bike.
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: Norm on January 28, 2009, 07:06:19 AM
Someone used to make something like that for bicycles. I tested it for a few weeks and found it to ride like shit and be loud as hell. I don't know if this is the same technology or not, but it's always nice to see people " think outside the box". The successes and failures of these ideas is what keeps things moving forward.
Title: Re: Cool Hubless Chopper
Post by: Speeddog on January 28, 2009, 08:23:38 AM
AFAIK, those bearings are heinously expensive, at least for a 'wheel bearing'.
Also, *very* difficult to mount properly, and effectively sealing them is quite a project as well.