The new OBERON Clutch Slave Cylinder (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=442%7CDucati&productID=6677&showDetail=1&categoryID=502%7CClutch%20Slave%20Cylinders&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168%7CEuropean%20Motorcycle%20Parts) is a very nice piece. We replaced the STM slave cylinder for an Oberon on our 1098 project bike. It was a simple install. The lever effort was indentical to the 30mm STM (as in very easy), but it seemed easier to find neutral. It was easy to install. East to bleed. Finish is very good and understated. The slave cylinder uses a "U" ring seal, a dust seal and a sealed back to keep grime off the piston. The breather hole is positioned to keep gunk from working it's way into the slave cylinder.
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The OBERON Clutch Slave Cylinder (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=442%7CDucati&productID=6677&showDetail=1&categoryID=502%7CClutch%20Slave%20Cylinders&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168%7CEuropean%20Motorcycle%20Parts) is available in red, titanium, black and gold
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We tested this on our own bike for a month and really liked them so we brought in a large quantity of them.
They are in stock and on sale until the end of February for $129:
OBERON Clutch Slave Cylinder (http://"http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=442%7CDucati&productID=6677&showDetail=1&categoryID=502%7CClutch%20Slave%20Cylinders&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168%7CEuropean%20Motorcycle%20Parts")
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I know its been awhile since this post, but I am a new Duc rider and was looking for a modification to reduce the clutch lever effort on my '07 S2R1000. Monsterparts recommended the Oberon unit. Do you think it will significantly reduce lever effort?
speaking from experience..........yes, but don't expect it to be totally likely butter.
Quote from: kimmer on April 05, 2011, 03:30:10 PM
was looking for a modification to reduce the clutch lever effort on my '07 S2R1000.
You can also pull two springs from the clutch. Still enough spring force to keep everything engaged, and lighter clutch pull.
I ran my M900 like this for quite a while without any issues.
I might as well ask here too....
Anyone heard of an aftermarket 26mm slave - for the 'old' wet clutch bikes?
(28mm doesn't actuate the clutch enough)
BTW which MW guy is that in the picture?
Quote from: zarn02 on April 05, 2011, 04:17:10 PM
You can also pull two springs from the clutch. Still enough spring force to keep everything engaged, and lighter clutch pull.
I ran my M900 like this for quite a while without any issues.
ding ding ding. I did that too and it's now like butter on the 900
Quote from: stopintime on April 05, 2011, 04:24:37 PM
I might as well ask here too....
Anyone heard of an aftermarket 26mm slave - for the 'old' wet clutch bikes?
(28mm doesn't actuate the clutch enough)
BTW which MW guy is that in the picture?
hmmm, bellissimoto recommended and sold me a 28mm for my wet clutch bike. i haven't received it yet, i hope it works!!
I've recently installed an Oberon Slave cylinder on my streetfighter and was impressed with the quality and the fact that a bit of thought had gone into re-designing it in that they use an oil seal instead of relying on the normal o-ring. [thumbsup]
[coffee]
Quote from: Roaduser on April 05, 2011, 10:55:49 PM
hmmm, bellissimoto recommended and sold me a 28mm for my wet clutch bike. i haven't received it yet, i hope it works!!
If you have an aftermarket adjustable lever, it
might work ok if you put it at the widest position, which for many isn't a good position.
28mm slave does not move the clutch enough - the result is either a slipping clutch (now or later) or hard-to-find-neutral dragging and wearing clutch.
Isn't your clutch light enough to operate? If so, I'd return it.
"I would recommend the EVR 28mm. anything larger and you may have problems. Make sure when you order that you request in the notes block the pushrod extension for the slave and your 10% discount (we refund you the 10% after you purchase)"
this was the recommendation given to me, so possibly the pushrod extension is what will make the difference.
Quote from: Roaduser on April 06, 2011, 01:54:07 AM
"I would recommend the EVR 28mm. anything larger and you may have problems. Make sure when you order that you request in the notes block the pushrod extension for the slave and your 10% discount (we refund you the 10% after you purchase)"
this was the recommendation given to me, so possibly the pushrod extension is what will make the difference.
In other cases when the extension is included, it's to fit bikes with a short pushrod.
It's not an issue of the rod being too short, it's about the action you (don't) get from a 28mm slave.
hmmm. well i am also putting on 999 master cylinders at the same time, i havent checked the master bore size difference yet, but if its smaller it may help the situation, if its larger i may have an even bigger problem... i do also have adjustable levers but they are intended to give me options, not to be set at an extreme to cater for another issue. actually my profile pic shows my new setup dummied up in the lounge room. ill look into the master differences and then just have to try it and see what happens.
Cheers Clint
I appreciate all the feedback. Removing springs from the clutch would help, but I don't want to modify the clutch if I can get away with a "bolt-on" solution. I am going to give the Oberon slave cylinder a try, possibly adding a lever to it as well.
If I can get some improvement on effort, I will be a happy camper. Thanks! I'll post how it works out.
Quote from: Roaduser on April 06, 2011, 03:35:47 AM
hmmm. well i am also putting on 999 master cylinders at the same time, i havent checked the master bore size difference yet, but if its smaller it may help the situation, if its larger i may have an even bigger problem... i do also have adjustable levers but they are intended to give me options, not to be set at an extreme to cater for another issue. actually my profile pic shows my new setup dummied up in the lounge room. ill look into the master differences and then just have to try it and see what happens.
Cheers Clint
Larger master = more movement of the clutch
Larger slave = less movement of the clutch
So, a larger master will equal out the larger slave.
But... even though a 999 master is probably bigger bore or at least the same, it's not compareable because the lever ratio is different from the stock master.
I suggest you call Fred at YoYoDyne and get his view on this. He'll be able to clear this up... and if required sell you the right parts. Or MotoWheels - whose thread this is.
Quote from: kimmer on April 06, 2011, 06:12:08 AM
I appreciate all the feedback. Removing springs from the clutch would help, but I don't want to modify the clutch if I can get away with a "bolt-on" solution. I am going to give the Oberon slave cylinder a try, possibly adding a lever to it as well.
If I can get some improvement on effort, I will be a happy camper. Thanks! I'll post how it works out.
A bolt OFF solution is easier than a bolt on, cheaper to.
My wife's wet-clutch 620 monster doesn't suffer those problems you mention - if anything it feels like the stock slave moves the pressure plate too much. Very little lever travel needed to go from fully released to fully engaged. The lever pull is very light and smooth so no worries with effort. I think a slightly larger-than-stock slave would improve engagement feel possibly as would stiffer springs to help reduce the effect of the aptc system.
^^^^
that was my impression too - until I checked disengagement on a rear stand. It feels like it's disengaged, but it's not. I have the invoice for a new clutch to prove my point [cheeky]
Just wanted to report that I installed the Oberon slave cylinder and I am quite happy with the results. I do notice an improvement in clutch action and was quite impressed with the quality of the item (purchased thru monsterparts). It was nice to see some clean fluid in the reservoir--hope it stays that way! Was impressed with the tech info at monsterparts.com as well. Jeff was quick to answer any question and the parts were received super-quick. I think this is a great upgrade and fairly simple installation. The bleeding of the system was the only "tricky" part, and that wasn't too bad. Happy trails!
The clutch fluid will still turn black.
Quote from: Armor on April 13, 2011, 09:59:01 AM
The clutch fluid will still turn black.
Death, taxes, and black clutch fluid.
Quote from: Armor on April 13, 2011, 09:59:01 AM
The clutch fluid will still turn black.
Not necessarily. I put an oberon slave on my SC about two years ago, and the clutch fluid is still "clear". Who knows though, maybe the garden gnomes have snuck in and purged it for me a few times since the install...