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I know I started a thread somewhere on this, but it seems to have disappeared. 

My friend's 1977 Toyota Celica.  He bought it new and it has about 60,000 miles on it.

We took it from a 2.0 five speed to a 2.6 (stroked 2.4) with a roots supercharger, disc brakes, full Aeromotive fuel system, 85 Celica GTS 5speed (lighter, and stronger), 79 Supra rear end with disc brakes and a Detroit True-Trac center, Weber DCOE carb, Aluminum radiator, full Autometer gage set in the stock locations (and some not so stock)

This should be a bad bad machine when it's rolling.  Target date is running by end of Feb.

We started by pulling the old 6.7" rear end.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/3908004.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/3908005.jpg)

I had to cut every bracket off the 79 Supra rear, except the spring perches, and reweld.  We were told it was bolt in, it was not.

It is now.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/3908003.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/3908002.jpg)

Tacked up and mocked up
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/3908006.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/3908008.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/3908007.jpg)

Welded up
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/32408009.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/32408008.jpg)
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(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/32408007.jpg)

More to come. . .

Tease!

Keep your pants on!

I have hundreds of pictures uploading right now.

;)

Nice welds.

More pictures-

Rear end all powdercoated up.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4055.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4058.jpg)

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We did the control arms as well
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Old motor and trans in the car and coming out
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Car's owner
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(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/32408005.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/32408006.jpg)

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In the operating room
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(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/32408019.jpg)

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Honestly, maybe it's just the pictures, but I'm not impressed with the quality of the powdercoat on the rearend and the brake rotors...

I get it...  56K connections = fail.  I thought you meant the guy spent $56,000 and the car blowed-up er sumptin!  Hehehe...   [laugh]

Glad to see these pics man...  Your other pics of the throttle linkage were the shizzle (vid too!)  [bacon]

New motor goodness!  200 lb/ft on the engine dyno from 3k-the 5k redline.  That should make enough tire smoke to get Al Gore's attention [evil]

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica002-1.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica008.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4110.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica010.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica009.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica014.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica015.jpg)

The calipers and rotors were done with a brush on epoxy, and I didn't do it.

The rear was powdercoated and I think it's good for what it cost.  Powder, to me, doesn't look as good as paint or anodize on aluminum.  I think there was a bunch of debris on it when I took the picture.


Thanks man!  I have to say, the throttle linkage and brackets I came up with-- I really like!  I think im most proud of that over all the other fab work ive done on the car.

For the trans, we ditched the original 4 (or was it 5) speed.  The 1-2 synchro was toast, and it had an iron housing which weighed a TON!

Enter the 85 Celica GT-S 5 speed with aluminum case.  Much lighter.  However, we discovered that the mount on the tail housing for the cross member was in a different place.  The company we're dealing with said they'd send out a different one that should put the holes in the right spot.

I just had to change it out.

Ok.

Did I mention the insides of reman 5 speeds are filthy?!?

And after all this, the housing they sent was the same as what we had.  I made special brackets to move the trans cross member aft about 1.5" and all is well.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4068.jpg)

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that car is sooooo very sick. 8) 

totally jealous

My first observation... ;)

ML can weld... [thumbsup] [clap]

Sometimes.....

...I can paint.  [laugh]

It's not an exact science.

I liken welding to painting...you are controlling a liquid puddle in both cases.

Sometimes it's difficult to do.

You're not kidding. That's an awesome project, looking forward to more updates.

I know what you mean. I just tend to be really critical of my work. Stuff always sticks together but I try hard to get a uniform bead. Sometimes it's tough. My equipment from the 60's works well enough but I think any of the new machines would make me look like a god.

Your work is good.

Stop worrying.

It's less worry and more about striving for quality. ;)

We can talk about this more after I try laying a bead on some titanium. ;)

I can't beleive how much crud was in the transmission case. Who did the rebuild?

Looking good, some nice work there [thumbsup]

Couldn't tell you.  I suspect there are only a couple companies that do it and supply everyone else.  Most, if not all, of that stuff wouldn't have been a problem once oil got in there and sloshed around.

Owner will go about 500 miles and then we're changing all the fluids in the car (except brake, and antifreeze)

More pics

Trick aluminum fly wheel with steel clutch face.  It weighs like nothing :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4100.jpg)

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All bolted up

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We had to use a different year bell housing to match this trans up with the back of the block.  One difference we discovered was in the area of the clutch fork pivot stud.  On the new BH there it was mounted to a boss that stuck out 5/8" more than stock and left no room for the fork to work.

Solution = remove 5/8 from the middle of the stud, reweld the head to the threaded body.  I wish I got an after shot but forgot about it.  We were excited to get the trans on the back of the motor.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4107.jpg)


Motor ready to go to it's new home

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Almost there

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica024.jpg)

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All tucked in

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4117.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4119.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4120.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4121.jpg)

looks fun.

 [thumbsup]

mitt

This was when we discovered a MAJOR problem with the install.

We got a lesson in physics.  Somehow, the carb adapter was unable to occupy the same space as the strut tower :(

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica023.jpg)

It didn't take long to figure out a fix.  The owner had 2 Weber DCOE side draft carbs that were originally intended for the old 2.0 but never made it on there.  Some quick research with the VW guys and my junkyard turbo yahoo list confirmed that ONE of these carbs would run the whole motor.

Seems that one of them would also run a 5.0L I6 ford 6cyl with a turbo.  If it would do that, it would work for us.

I designed a new manifold, took lots of pics and measurements.  We sent it all of to LC Engineering (they provided the motor) and they fabricated up what we needed :D

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica027.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica029.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica030.jpg)

And here's the result:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4145.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4126.jpg)

The new one looks 10X cooler than the one that didn't fit  [thumbsup]

mitt

I love Celicas.  I still have my '91 with 220k miles on it.  It received new paint last spring to bring it back to its rightful glory.  I still keep my eyes open for a '91-'93 turbo Altrac. [bow_down]

We moved the radio out of it's stock location to make room for a gage panel.  I designed this one out of thin cardboard then had 2pcs cut out on a water jet.  The operator screwed up and made the holes too big.  He fixed that and made 2 good ones.

It wasn't until later that i discovered that the 2 bad ones fit right over the gage bezels perfectly.  We're running 3 plates stacked.  The first one the gages fit into, the 2nd two are just there to give it a flush look.  Think frenched, but only about half way.  There's about half the height of the bezel revealed.  It's a really cool look, IMO.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/4053.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica044.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica045.jpg)

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The dash has a tach and spedo, and off to the right there are 3 circular "windows" angled at the driver.  One had an analog clock in it, the other was warning lights for oil and water temp, and I don't recall what the third one did.

They *begged* to have gages put in them.

And that's what I did :D

Dash panel

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica080.jpg)


The clock cup wasn't deep enough for a gage, so I cut the back off and extended it back with some sheet metal.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica068.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica067.jpg)


The other 2 original gages (looks like they were actually for water and fuel)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica064.jpg)


Modified housing (nothing like cutting up 70's material that can't be easily replaced)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica065.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica066.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica085.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica088.jpg)


After all that, we were almost required by Hot Rod law to replace the tach and spedo as well.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica074.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica095.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica096.jpg)

Wish I had a better shot of the finished dash. . .

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That is awesome!

Only 200 from a supercharged 2.6? That's pretty conservative, don't you think?

ROFLMAO!!!!   [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Been there, done that, over-spent and over-built the project!  [thumbsup]



But honestly, you're doing kick-ass and making me want a project car again.  Dammit!  [evil]

So when it was here....



Why did you not paint the filthy dang firewall shown here....



Sheesh! Powdercoat the rear end but don't touch the engine bay? I would chase you outta the shop with a hammer.

Don't forget that's a torque number.  I have no idea if that's conservative or not.  No experience with these engines in boosted form.  All the internals are forged, and from what ive seen on the net, could be good for twice that number if we wanted it.

Im not in charge of the build.  Im just the hired gun to weld/fab/make it fit. 

The owner didn't want to get into it too deep.  We cleaned off some of that junk and left it at that.

He had the car Tuff-Coated when it was 2 days old.  This is basically tar, and it is absolutely terrible to clean off.  To do it right, we would have had to strip everything out of the engine bay and have it blasted.  If we did that, the owner would have had the entire car done and we weren't looking to do a frame off deal.

This is not a show car.

It's going to live the life of a hot street car, burnout machine, open trackday toy.  I don't expect that it will be crashed at the track, but I will not be surprised if it does happen.

Again, not a show car.

 [roll]



 ;D Someones gotta give you a hard time, no?

Might as well start with you ;D

My work is solid.  This is just a rare occasion when I'm doing what someone else tells me  ;)

Great work. Very impressive work on the dash.

...I just keep asking myself...A celica? All that for a celica?  :)

Typical response from someone who hasn't driven a old rwd hopped up celica.  [roll]  ;D


They are a blast to drive with 175+ hp.

Yeah...I would give anything to have my '74 Datsun 260Z back. That car still makes me have naughty thoughts and I sold it 12 years ago...

Great work ML.

I have to say, you are pretty "Shop-H" !
As they say around here.

Is that a slur?












;)

Old Celicas and Supras are sexy. Like an efficient muscle car that the Americans should have built at the time. The newer ones, not so much. The first gen Celicas were the most gorgeous, like a small copy of a Mustang fastback. The second gen started the ugly lego-brick styling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Celica_ra28.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Celica_ra28.jpg)

No slur. Being Shop-H is cool..
You know, being good with welding & taking apart transmissions & stuff.


If your going for the Metrosexual thing, then I guess it's not cool.

i've always like celicas.

the one i have always wanted (and will never find in this country)
if i did find one in decent shape i would almost certainly buy it on the spot. or as soon as i could get a loan for it.
(http://www.stockdynos.net/gt4celica.jpg)

Hey look! A Tiburon!!!

 ;D [cheeky]  ;D
*duck*

What makes this car that desirable?

Turbo all wheel drive...

Oh-ho!

Wow. Didn't think that deserved the smart ass rolling eyes but whatever.

He threw in the big grin smiley afterwards at least. . .

It's ok, he's not allowed to have a sense of humor.    [laugh]

Since when did humor come to the DMF?

 ;D

Just to update everyone, we got the car running yesterday!!!

Hellica's first run (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuAV7GDL2Ks#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

The Weber will work, but it the engine runs out of fuel even at idle.  I have to run the choke on to keep it idling (choke on this carb doesn't restrict air, it adds more fuel)

Throttle response is WICKED!!!

We had some fuel leaks to solve, but that was it.  It started right up!!

That thing is gonna be a beast!

Dude...schweet!

You should have sent those pics to the reman shop.

And by the way - awesome job.
My favorite ex-car was an 87 Supra

Thanks!

It's been a ton of work.

And we're not done yet ;)

Just a little update:

New idle and main jets as well as the F7 emulsion tubes have the engine doing better!

It still needs more main jetting though as it breaks up at 2500.

It will start right up cold on the choke and idle off the choke after about 10 seconds.

Throttle response continues to be otherworldly.

One cool thing (pun intended)- we found that the air rushing through our tubular manifold cools the manifold drastically.  Think of running an air grinder for a while and how the body of the tool gets cold. Same thing.

I busted out the IR thermo and the manifold was down to 60 degrees right behind the carb. It got warmer the closer to the blower I took a reading but not more than 15 degrees.

Water condenses out of the air within 30 seconds of the car idling.

Neat [thumbsup]

I'd be a good physics teacher. I'd have the car in the class room...

...running [laugh]

With an open header earplugs are a must, and if you get down low the exhaust pulses shake your chest!