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Title: Replacement Seals
Post by: kawazar on February 09, 2009, 04:39:32 AM
I need a couple of new seals that go behind the clutch basket. I called the dealer and one of them is $32. It was over $52 in just the 2 seals. Does anyone know of any aftermarket seals I could use in place of the dealer ones? I was thinking about taking the seals to NAPA and maybe they have a catalog I could compare measurements to.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: ducpainter on February 09, 2009, 04:47:03 AM
You would have better luck going to a bearing/seal house.

They may be able to match something by dimension.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: 64duc on February 10, 2009, 10:22:46 AM
Quote from: kawazar on February 09, 2009, 04:39:32 AM
I need a couple of new seals that go behind the clutch basket. I called the dealer and one of them is $32. It was over $52 in just the 2 seals. Does anyone know of any aftermarket seals I could use in place of the dealer ones? I was thinking about taking the seals to NAPA and maybe they have a catalog I could compare measurements to.


  My local NAPA store has a pretty good selection, plus they can get almost anything in one or two days. Almost.  Same for the bearing house I use.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: kawazar on February 10, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
I got the numbers off of the seals. I'm going to try my bearing shop tomorrow and if no luck I will hit NAPA. I did notice that the seals are marked with the size and some of the other numbers might be the type or style of seal. I just want to find something cheaper then $55 for 2 seals. One of them is about $32.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: bigiain on February 15, 2009, 12:30:28 AM
Quote from: kawazar on February 10, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
I got the numbers off of the seals.

Could you post the numbers up please? Both here an in the alternatives to OEM parts (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=698.0) thread if you would. (along with the year and specific model of your bike) Let us know how you get on sourcing alternatives too...

cheers,

big
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: DucHead on February 15, 2009, 01:45:17 PM
Are you talking about the large central steel/polymer seal in the center of the clutch-side case?  If so, I'd be surprised if you found that as a generic item, but very interested as I'm going to purchase the same seal.

Any progress on your search?

P.S. I'm trying to source bearings for the alternator cover.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: kawazar on February 16, 2009, 05:11:43 AM
I have not gone out looking for the replacements yet. I have 2 places I can check in my area. One is just a bearing supplier and the other is just a seal supplier. I had planned on posting my results both here and the alternative thread. When I put my seal sizes into Google there were many companies that came up so it looks like there are alternatives made. The seal I need is the big one behind the basket and the smaller one that mounts behind the basket as well. The only part I'm not sure about is if I will find the same style of seal. There are different designs for the sealing surface. I will try to get to it this week, if not I will be going next week.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: DucHead on February 16, 2009, 05:16:04 AM
Thanks for the update.

I drifted out the larger seal without any visible damage.  I'm considering re-using it...

I'm also trying to source bearings for the alternator cover.  I've found a few places on-line...in Britain.  :-\
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: kawazar on February 16, 2009, 05:17:11 AM
I forgot the sizes. I took as much info off the seal as I could. Some of it doesn't mean anything to me but it might to the suppliers. The large seal:
Bavis LRS CFW Corteco 75-95-12
The smaller one: Baud 25L CFW 35-47-7

I know the numbers are right but the wording could be off. Some of the lettering was worn and hard to see.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: kawazar on February 16, 2009, 05:20:17 AM
I couldn't get mine out without damaging the seal. I tried for a few hours and had to wreck the seal to get it out, the metal surfaces went undamaged though. It has been in there for 42K so I expected it to be tough. If I can't find the seals I'll be off to the dealer, at least I can get them there.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: DucHead on February 16, 2009, 07:35:13 AM
Quote from: kawazar on February 16, 2009, 05:17:11 AM
I forgot the sizes. I took as much info off the seal as I could. Some of it doesn't mean anything to me but it might to the suppliers. The large seal:
Bavis LRS CFW Corteco 75-95-12
The smaller one: Baud 25L CFW 35-47-7

I know the numbers are right but the wording could be off. Some of the lettering was worn and hard to see.

Applied.com (http://www.applied.com/apps/commerce/catalog/catalog.do?e=10&s=1961104&r=0&type=a&mp=75X95X12VSCL) has the large seal.  Their price is $36.53 -- no substantial savings. 

Their bearings are expensive too.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: kawazar on February 16, 2009, 09:09:34 AM
if I can't find it locally then I will just go to the dealer. Once you add shipping charges to mail order I assumed it would work out the same. Thanks though!
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: DucHead on February 16, 2009, 12:07:07 PM
Quote from: kawazar on February 16, 2009, 09:09:34 AM
if I can't find it locally then I will just go to the dealer. Once you add shipping charges to mail order I assumed it would work out the same. Thanks though!

It's a real pisser that these things aren't cheaper.

I have noticed in my searches that bearings and seals for our bikes are far more available in Europe, and they're cheaper there too.  :-\
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: DucHead on February 16, 2009, 12:08:08 PM
Quote from: kawazar on February 16, 2009, 05:20:17 AM
I couldn't get mine out without damaging the seal. I tried for a few hours and had to wreck the seal to get it out, the metal surfaces went undamaged though. It has been in there for 42K so I expected it to be tough. If I can't find the seals I'll be off to the dealer, at least I can get them there.

BTW, I headed my case cover with a heat gun, and drifted the large seal out easily with a piece of steel pipe.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: kawazar on February 16, 2009, 03:17:38 PM
I removed it with the side cover on the bike. I could have pulled it. it might have been easier.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: DucHead on February 16, 2009, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: kawazar on February 16, 2009, 03:17:38 PM
I removed it with the side cover on the bike. I could have pulled it. it might have been easier.

We must be talking about a different seal, because I don't see how you could remove the 75x95x10mm seal with the cover on the bike.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: kawazar on February 27, 2009, 03:29:46 AM
For those of you that wanted a reply, I went to 2 local suppliers and had no luck. They couldn't exactly match the seal. There were differences in each of them from the factory ones.
Title: Re: Replacement Seals
Post by: Langanobob on February 27, 2009, 05:02:47 AM


Bearing houses have different prices depending on if you have an account, and how much you buy from them.  Sometimes you can get a better price just by asking the guy at the counter if he can give you a better price.  Not exactly like bargaining at a swap meet or garage sale, but close.   Guess it's a moot point now since it sounds like the seals were not available anyway.