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Moto Board => General Monster Forum => Topic started by: Drjones on February 13, 2009, 12:20:01 PM

Title: Motorcycle Online - M1100 vs HD XR1200 Shootout
Post by: Drjones on February 13, 2009, 12:20:01 PM
http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/ducati-monster-1100-vs-harleydavidson-xr1200-review-87928.html (http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/ducati-monster-1100-vs-harleydavidson-xr1200-review-87928.html)
Title: Re: Motorcycle Online - M1100 vs HD XR1200 Shootout
Post by: Heath on February 13, 2009, 03:07:08 PM
I think I am going to be sick.. [puke]
Title: Re: Motorcycle Online - M1100 vs HD XR1200 Shootout
Post by: That Nice Guy Beck! on February 13, 2009, 03:43:21 PM
they are both ugly
Title: Re: Motorcycle Online - M1100 vs HD XR1200 Shootout
Post by: needtorque on February 13, 2009, 04:32:55 PM
Wonder how hard he had to work to get the front wheel of the over-weight HD off the ground lol.  Damn near 600 lbs. dry weight and 79 HP it could'nt have been easy.
Title: Re: Motorcycle Online - M1100 vs HD XR1200 Shootout
Post by: wllgmr on February 13, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
I think that would be the only H-D that I would ever get.
Title: Re: Motorcycle Online - M1100 vs HD XR1200 Shootout
Post by: silentbob on February 13, 2009, 06:04:20 PM
I like it.  But it is too heavy and rev limited.  Both of these problems can be solved easily.  Most of the weight is in the engine in the form of massive counter weights on the crank to handle the primary imbalance of a 45 degree single pin crank twin which is also the reason for its short rev limit.  What they should do is to make this bike with a split pin crank they way Honda does.  I had an old Honda Shadow 500 with a 3 valve 500cc narrow angle twin and a split pin crank.  That thing would spin up to 10,000 rpm smoothly.  This would drop a ton of weight off the engine while allowing it rev freely.  The engine could keep the same bore/stroke/cylinder angle.  The look, low end torque, and V twin power pulse feel would still be there.  The only "character" you would lose would be the really bad vibes that they try to isolate with the rubber engine mounts anyway.  As a matter of fact they could do away with those mounts if they change the crank.  That would cut down some more weight and make the chassis stiffer by using the engine as a stressed member.  It would seem to be the next logical step in the very slow evolution of the Harley V twin.
Title: Re: Motorcycle Online - M1100 vs HD XR1200 Shootout
Post by: Rob Hilding on February 13, 2009, 06:52:31 PM
Bit of a threadjack

but this will help explain S.Bob's engine comment .......

http://www.sa750.com/vtwin/vtwin.htm (http://www.sa750.com/vtwin/vtwin.htm)

End t.jack
Title: Re: Motorcycle Online - M1100 vs HD XR1200 Shootout
Post by: scduc on February 13, 2009, 07:35:55 PM
The rider on the HD appears to be falling back off the bike or at least trying to pull it up, While the Duc rider seems to be trying to push the front back down. There is no way that the pig can just twist the throttle and get the front up.