I want to start playing more of an active role in the maintenance (also some restoration work) of my 03 620. What are the best books out there, don't have to be Duc specific, that you guys have seen/used?
what bike do you have?
haynes is umm. okay.
http://www.desmotimes.com/ (http://www.desmotimes.com/) has a good one
and i have the S2R1000 maintence CD if you want that.
it's a 2003 620. it's in pretty rough shape right now after sitting on a tropical island for 2 years. the salt in the air really ate away at it, lots of rust and corrosion. my main goal is to get it running again before i buy another one.
hmm..rust and corrosion. no manual is gonna help that. might help to know how to break it down, in that case, i think a haynes manual is fine. but dont be fooled but their wording.
heres the inside jokes on haynes manual, great to have, as long as you have the answer key.
Haynes: Rotate anticlockwise.
Translation: Clamp with molegrips (adjustable wrench) then beat repeatedly with hammer anticlockwise. You do know which way is anticlockwise, don't you?
Haynes: Should remove easily.
Translation: Will be corroded into place. Clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with a hammer.
Haynes: This is a snug fit.
Translation: You will skin your knuckles. Clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with hammer.
Haynes: This is a tight fit.
Translation: Not a hope in hell. Clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with hammer.
Haynes: As described in Chapter 7...
Translation: That'll teach you not to read through before you start, especially as you are now gazing at the worrying innards of an automatic gearbox.
Haynes: Pry...
Translation: Hammer a screwdriver into..
Haynes: Undo...
Translation: Go buy a tin of WD40 (extra large).
Haynes: Ease ...
Translation: Apply superhuman strength to...
Haynes: Retain tiny spring...
Translation: "Where did that go??"
Haynes: Press and rotate to remove bulb...
Translation: Pliers required to dig out the bayonet part and remaining glass shards.
Haynes: Lightly...
Translation: Start off lightly and build up till the veins on your forehead are throbbing then re-check the manual because what you are doing now cannot be considered "lightly".
Haynes: Weekly checks...
Translation: If it isn't broken don't fix it!
Haynes: Routine maintenance...
Translation: If it isn't broken...it's about to be!
Haynes: One spanner rating (simple).
Translation: Your Granny could do that. So how did you manage to botch it up?
Haynes: Two spanner rating.
Translation: Now you may think that you can do this because two is a low, tiny, ikkle number. But you also thought that the wiring diagram was a map of the Tokyo underground (in fact that would have been more use to you).
Haynes: Three spanner rating (intermediate).
Translation: Make sure you won't need your car for a couple of days and that your AA cover includes Home Start.
Haynes: Four spanner rating.
Translation: You are seriously considering this, aren't you?
Haynes: Five spanner rating (expert).
Translation: OK - but don't expect me to ride it afterwards.
Translation #2: Don't ever carry your loved ones in it again and don't mention it to your insurance company.
Haynes: If not, you can fabricate your own special tool like this...
Translation: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Haynes: Compress...
Translation: Squeeze with all your might, jump up and down on, swear at, throw at the garage wall, then search for it in the dark corner of the garage whilst muttering "******" repeatedly under your breath.
Haynes: Inspect...
Translation: Squint at really hard and pretend you know what you are looking at, then declare in a loud knowing voice: "Yes as I thought. Going to need a new one"!
Haynes: Carefully...
Translation: You are about to hurt yourself.
Haynes: Remove retaining nut...
Translation: Yes, that's it, that big spherical blob of rust.
Haynes: Get an assistant...
Translation: Prepare to humiliate yourself in front of someone you know.
Haynes: Turning the engine will be easier with the spark plugs removed.
Translation: However, starting the engine afterwards will be much harder. Once that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach has subsided, you can start to feel deeply ashamed as you gingerly refit the spark plugs.
Haynes: Refitting is the reverse sequence to removal.
Translation: But you swear in different places.
Haynes: Prise away plastic locating pegs...
Translation: Snap off...
Haynes: Using a suitable drift or pin-punch...
Translation: The biggest nail in your tool box.
Haynes: Everyday toolkit
Translation: Ensure you have an RAC Card & Mobile Phone
Haynes: Apply moderate heat...
Translation: Placing your mouth near it and huffing isn't moderate heat.
Translation #2: Heat up until glowing red, if it still doesn't come undone use a hacksaw.
Haynes: Apply strong heat...
Translation: Unless you have a blast furnace, don't bother. Clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with hammer.
Haynes: Index
Translation: List of all the things in the book bar the thing you want to do!
Haynes: Remove oil filter using an oil filter chain wrench or length of bicycle chain.
Translation: Stick a screwdriver through it and beat handle repeatedly with a hammer.
Haynes: Replace old gasket with a new one.
Translation: I know I've got BluTac around here somewhere.
Haynes: Grease well before refitting.
Translation: Spend an hour searching for grease before chancing upon a bottle of washing-up liquid. Wipe some congealed washing up liquid from the dispenser nozzle and use that since it's got a similar texture and will probably get you to Halfords to buy some Castrol grease.
Haynes: See illustration for details.
Translation: None of the illustrations or notes will match the pictured exploded, numbered parts. The unit illustrated is from a previous or variant model. The actual location of the unit is never given.
;D
haha, thanks for the input. i guess a big part of what i want to do is disassembly, so hopefully that will help out a bit. thanks again [beer]
Quote from: LemmyEOD on February 28, 2009, 08:11:57 AM
haha, thanks for the input. i guess a big part of what i want to do is disassembly, so hopefully that will help out a bit. thanks again [beer]
How good of a mechanic are you? The factory service manuals are great, but they require a bit of knowledge and experience to make sense.
experience-wise, not so much. but i'm mechanically inclined with an engineering mindset and was banking on that to get me by. this is gonna be more of a learning experience for me than anything else.