I have been looking around at exhaust for awhile and want something to clean up the lines of the bike while adding alittle sound. If I picked up Quat-D's exbox system is there anything else that needs to be done to the bike in order for this system to work properly? or is it good right out of the box? I notice alot that people need software or to flash there ecu on many systems and didnt know whats best for this system.
and to be perfectly honest im not that concerned with additional power gain, a few hp would be nice but if thats all the software gets me I may wait awhile before I get it flashed...
Idk if much of this makes sence im half asleep typing this haha... but just would like some advice.
i have the x-box on my 06 s2r1k. it did not require anything else (no tuning, ecu, anything.) however, my s2r1k is one of the ones that has never had any of the surging, idle issues others have had, so if you have those issues, YRMV
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm285/s2r1000/paintedbelts6.jpg?t=1236086557)
oh, and you wont get any more horsepower out of the x-box, just weight reduction and eye candy...
I have an 800.
Just bolt it on. Take some pictures and go!
Enjoy.
Good to know. yeah mine is an 08' and I havnt had the surging problems either... Im prob. going to pick up the exhaust early summer...
Oh I noticed no one has them in stock... would you just rec. the special order from motowheels?
check with all the sponsors who sell them. see who might have some on order.
otherwise, no reason not to use motowheels. thats where i picked mine up.
I bought mine from Motowheels.
Awesome people to deal with. [thumbsup]
The ExBox is one of the few exhaust that is plug and play assuming you didn't mess with the airbox.
what happens if I mess with the airbox?
Quote from: ShiftSix on March 03, 2009, 03:27:11 PM
what happens if I mess with the airbox?
you are going to need to do something (depending on the model) to rich up the map.
its not a bad idea to pick up a second airbox lid. then mess with it, and if you dont like the results.......back to stock.
true... So if I did want some power gains what would I be looking at doing to her with the Ex-box exhaust? I saw on motowheels they offer mid-pipes and say that if combined with them it makes some gains but doesnt the exbox include the piping already?
To be honest I do most of my riding around town and dont need any crazy power number from her but a couple hp wouldnt be bad.
oh and thanks for all the advice so far
yeh the x box is a full system, no place for a separate mid pipe. if you want power increases, you may need to look into some of the more advanced tuning options out there.
If you are diggin' on getting this system on, you might consider just doing the fatducrider O2 modifier. I have a full Arrow system, and it was definately lean before the modifier, surges and all.. Now that the thing is in there, I'm thinkin' I need to adjust it to be more lean. I can smell it at idle a lil' more than I should.
Save for a DP ECU there doesn't seem to be a lot more we (S2R1K owners) can do. Not that that sucks or anything. low on power the bike ain't.
Oh sure, it's no R1. But that ony makes spankin' superbikes on tight tracks and canyons (you squids) all the more rewarding. so do the QD for the look and the bang (sound) and to the O2 mod for the health of your machine. You'll be thrilled.
Quote from: Smokescreen on March 03, 2009, 11:02:59 PM
If you are diggin' on getting this system on, you might consider just doing the fatducrider O2 modifier. I have a full Arrow system, and it was definately lean before the modifier, surges and all.. Now that the thing is in there, I'm thinkin' I need to adjust it to be more lean. I can smell it at idle a lil' more than I should.
You only need to do this if you mess with the airbox. ExBox+stock lid=plug&play
So the Ex-box offers no increase in exhaust flow over the stock unit? Or only marginal?
If ShiftSix is looking for any gains at all, he'd do well to enrich the already lean f/a mix. Having said that, the cheapest way to do that in the normal rev range, is the O2 modifier... I think.
i've noticed no difference before/after with my x-box, except sound and weight savings
and better looking than stock, of course
I guess it's worth if for the better looking bit alone! in truth, your ExBox is a little more sensible than the Arrow Ti pipes I've got. Since they are round, unlike the stockers, you have to remove the cans to take off the rear wheel. That.... Is irritating.
But the sound and the prettys make it all worth while
Quote from: Smokescreen on March 04, 2009, 12:32:51 PM
So the Ex-box offers no increase in exhaust flow over the stock unit? Or only marginal?
Minimal if the airbox lid is kept stock since the air flow bottleneck is the lid not the pipes. That's why you need to remap if you open the lid.
Quote from: Smokescreen on March 04, 2009, 07:46:33 PM
I guess it's worth if for the better looking bit alone! in truth, your ExBox is a little more sensible than the Arrow Ti pipes I've got. Since they are round, unlike the stockers, you have to remove the cans to take off the rear wheel. That.... Is irritating.
But the sound and the prettys make it all worth while
i have arrows on my s4r and can get the rear wheel off without taking off the cans.
Boy, I wish I could. It definately doesn't clear.. Didn't clear when I took off my 180, and didn't clear (even more) when I put on the 190....
Maybe.... It'd clear if it weren't on a rear stand to do wheel changes. It's pretty close, so there's a possiblity that with the suspension extended it'd come out.
CDawg, that's interesting. Mine runs the stock lid (K&N filter though) and open arrows most days, and she definately ran lean until I put on the O2 modifier. Maybe (I'm guessing here) since the Ex-Box is not a straight pipe, it offers more back pressure. However, since putting on the O2 modifier (in their "optimal" position) the bike runs a little rich when cold, and a tiny bit rich when warm. I LOVE the backfiring under engine braking though!
Quote from: Smokescreen on March 05, 2009, 09:08:44 AM
CDawg, that's interesting. Mine runs the stock lid (K&N filter though) and open arrows most days, and she definately ran lean until I put on the O2 modifier. Maybe (I'm guessing here) since the Ex-Box is not a straight pipe, it offers more back pressure. However, since putting on the O2 modifier (in their "optimal" position) the bike runs a little rich when cold, and a tiny bit rich when warm. I LOVE the backfiring under engine braking though!
I was only referring to the ExBox. Arrows run lean w/o any modifications to the airbox.
Quote from: Smokescreen on March 05, 2009, 09:08:44 AM
Boy, I wish I could. It definately doesn't clear.. Didn't clear when I took off my 180, and didn't clear (even more) when I put on the 190....
Maybe.... It'd clear if it weren't on a rear stand to do wheel changes. It's pretty close, so there's a possiblity that with the suspension extended it'd come out.
CDawg, that's interesting. Mine runs the stock lid (K&N filter though) and open arrows most days, and she definately ran lean until I put on the O2 modifier. Maybe (I'm guessing here) since the Ex-Box is not a straight pipe, it offers more back pressure. However, since putting on the O2 modifier (in their "optimal" position) the bike runs a little rich when cold, and a tiny bit rich when warm. I LOVE the backfiring under engine braking though!
Rear stand is not the issue.... have you lowered your bike ??? I have mine raised & I can get the wheel of no problem...... it helps to remove the bolt holding the cans to the frame....... gives you plenty of room.
It's not lowered, but it's not raised either. Hoping to replace the crap rear shock before summer at which point I may raise the rear a few centimeters. Maybe that'll help. At least I don't think it's lowered. The previous owner was taller than me....