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Title: Question with S2r1k
Post by: ShiftSix on March 04, 2009, 12:42:41 PM
So the bike is still fairly new with about 1300 miles on her... I live in texas and get to ride it fairly often since I bought her do to the nice weather.   Just today I turned it on.  put my gear on and rode to the end of my street and she died....  ??? so i started her back up, and took off to hit up a starbucks with one of my friends... sat there for about 20 mins.  when I left riding down the service road about a 1/4 mile it died again while idling down threw the rpms (engine braking) from 50mph down to 30 or so...    ???    Push the button and she starts right back up and road fine back to the house...?

Any ideas? 
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: Smokescreen on March 04, 2009, 02:55:53 PM
Make sure all four plugs are plugged in and clean the battery posts. Although if the girls just dying but the clusters still alive it's prolly ignition.  If fuel runs dry usually you get a ramp up in rpms before the bike dies. 
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: Gus Duc on March 04, 2009, 03:27:57 PM
That's what mine did when the valve guides went bad...... random stalling & losing revs between shifts.... annoying thing was it didn't do it all the time...... & never when I took it to the dealer [laugh]
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: ShiftSix on March 04, 2009, 03:47:52 PM
even with only 1300 miles on her?
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: aaronb on March 04, 2009, 04:07:57 PM
Quote from: Gus Duc on March 04, 2009, 03:27:57 PM
That's what mine did when the valve guides went bad...... random stalling & losing revs between shifts.... annoying thing was it didn't do it all the time...... & never when I took it to the dealer [laugh]

mine did it often before the 7500 valve adjustment.  but the guides were fine. 
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: Speeddog on March 04, 2009, 04:32:41 PM
What's the idle rpm?
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: Mash on March 04, 2009, 06:00:20 PM
I had a similar problem with mine, stalling at lights or whenever I would let it idle.  In my case the battery wouldn't have enough juice to start the beast back up.  It turned out to be a loose/fried connection from the regulator to the battery.  Not only was I losing juice to the battery to charge it, the FI or fuel pump didn't get enough power and would just stop working.  I've got about 2000 miles without a problem since I repaired the fried connector.

Pull off your seat and raise the tank, and reseat every connector you can get your hands on.  That's how I eventually found my problem.
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: ShiftSix on March 04, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
because the bike is so new I shouldnt be charged anything if i took it in to ducati for them to check it out right?
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: Smokescreen on March 04, 2009, 07:40:48 PM
Well...  That's the idea....  But you may get suprised...

SpeedDog, whats the idle rpm sposed to be?  Mine has one in gear idle and another lower neutral idle.  Doesn't seem to be a problem though
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: He Man on March 04, 2009, 08:48:49 PM
the lower idle in gearmight be due to the clutch slipping (old fluid?) when you throw it in gear its slipping the clutch and the rpms drop becasue teh wheel isnt spinning.

My bike likes to hang while in clutched in, and in gear, around 2,000rpm, when i drop it back into neutral it goes back to 1100ish.  ??? only happened after i added the rapidbike 3 unit though.
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: ShiftSix on March 04, 2009, 08:54:48 PM
none of that sounds familiar...  basically I have only seen it happen 4 times now and all has happened before the bike got up to say 150degrees...   I road first to the end of my short street and when I pulled the clutch in it died...     Then when I left starbucks I ripped on her a bit 2nd-4th and when I rolled off the throttle in 4th it died again...   ??  push the button and she starts right back up and rode fine for the rest of the day.
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: Smokescreen on March 04, 2009, 11:19:18 PM
I still think you should go through all of your connections.

On my SV I had something similar happen.  she'd run fine, everything great, but once warmed up the motor would cut out.  Start right back up to.  ended up on that particular bike there was a plug that tended to cook off after 20K miles.  Mine lasted 30K+ but it did go.

Another note.  Only do one "fix" at a time.  So you know what makes it better, or what makes it worse....  And just go ahead and replace the plugs.  It's not like they are Ducati priced.  What $2 each?


Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: ShiftSix on March 05, 2009, 01:19:32 AM
yeah, but the bike has 1300 miles on her... I wouldnt think its the plugs  maybe if it had 13,000 miles on her no prob. but not this early... Im going to ride it to work tomorrow and go over some stuff, if it keeps it up its going back to ams on friday.
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: Smokescreen on March 05, 2009, 09:10:04 AM
I'd agree that it's unlikely the plugs have been worn out, but it's possible one or more have gone bad.  Mostly if you are running platinums or the like. 
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on March 05, 2009, 09:13:10 AM
Quote from: Smokescreen on March 04, 2009, 11:19:18 PM
I still think you should go through all of your connections.

On my SV I had something similar happen.  she'd run fine, everything great, but once warmed up the motor would cut out.  Start right back up to.  ended up on that particular bike there was a plug that tended to cook off after 20K miles.  Mine lasted 30K+ but it did go.

Another note.  Only do one "fix" at a time.  So you know what makes it better, or what makes it worse....  And just go ahead and replace the plugs.  It's not like they are Ducati priced.  What $2 each?

with that few miles though?  and replacing the plugs for him will be closer to $4-5, x 4.
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: Smokescreen on March 05, 2009, 09:27:29 AM
If a plug is going to fail, it won't be dependent on age of the plug, it'll be due to inconsistencies within the plug.  having said that, with normal plugs, more than 10% failure rate would be very unusual, so having more than one failure is unlikely.  Even $20 is cheaper than any other Ducati part i can think of...  Having said that, I suspect it is an ignition issue, maybe via a wiring issue.  I doubt the plugs have failed, but that's still a cheaper diagnostic than most.  I however would start by going through the ignition wiring.  Mostly if the display isn't failing at the same time.

might check the belt tensioners to.  Pretty easy to look in there and make sure no balts are being eaten.   

Has the bike had it's first maintenance yet?
Title: Re: Question with S2r1k
Post by: ShiftSix on March 05, 2009, 11:27:33 AM
Yeah she had the first one a few miles late around 700miles or so but didnt figure that was a big deal...  Tho after I got it back from them I looked it over and they forgot to put the spring loaded clips back on my hoses leading up to the gas tank and wasnt too happy about that.  everything else tho seemed fine.