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Hello ladies and gents! I've been asked to speak for a proposed bill next Wednesday [18th]. This bill is named "Lane Splitting", though I wish they would have called it Lane Filtering instead.

The idea is, in traffic 20mph or slower you can move through cars not exceeding 5mph faster than traffic. Basically, filter to the front - either through traffic or at lights where the road is two or more lanes on your side of the road. The motorcyclist and passenger [if applicable] must wear helmets - and their path of travel must go where a car cannot follow [cannot drive on the shoulder or median].

I need responsible riders to come with to the capital. The opposition for this bill is from other motorcyclists. The opposition is upset that they are having helmets "forced" upon them. I don't see it that way - in fact, it was explained to me by John Carona's associate the helmet factor was added to the bill after it failed twice due to perceived dangers. They added the helmet piece as a concession... we want something, they want something... compromise.

The hearing is next Wednesday the 18th at 7:30-8:00 am At the Capital extension in Austin [1400 Congress]

I want people showing up looking like the responsible riders we are - even if you don't ride there. PLEASE wear a jacket, carry gloves and a helmet. If our primary opposition on this are the bikers for head freedom, we want to look like the SAFE ones... if we market this right the cagers will be on OUR side because it will make motorcycling "safer" by default.

Anyone able to help me build a small army?

hell yeah. Where do we have to be?

Capitol Extension room E1.016,

Austin I presume?

Yes, at the Capital building.

Cool. I'm gonna be round them parts that week. So I will try my best to show up.

Can someone explain to me why Lane Splitting is a good thing?

seems like it would only further aggravate cagers

and worse, create one more potentially hazardous situation for us while try to squeeze through inattentive drivers

I'm a cyclist as well and even on my bicycle in traffic, I don't "filter" through cars to get to the front

I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but I haven't really followed the debate till this point, and I'm honestly trying to get some more insight behind the logic.

Um.

I am betting your not wearing full leathers and a full face helmet on your bicycle.  ;)

Sitting in stopped traffic, on an air cooled bike, propely dressed in full protective gear, on a nice 98 degree 95% humidity Texas day because some idiots touched bumpers and decided to park on the express way, seems pretty stupid and even unsafe, given the ability to "filter" past, or at least up to the next exit to take an alternate route.

J

i'm with the dude here.... texas summers do not agree with me at all; i need air flow, damn it!  and i feel even worse for my bike when we're at a standstill.  when i had my supersport, it was absolutely cooking when at a stop...and i would frequently take it out towards the shoulder just to keep some air going over the oil cooler.  i think there would be some hurdles to overcome at first, but with enough effort put into informing the public about this, i think it would be a huge benefit to have and something people would adjust to over time.  i'm not saying we'll turn into san francisco overnight, but i would hope that people would learn to mellow out and respect people on motos just trying to do their thing and get through traffic.

of course, for every responsible person on a motorcycle, there are probably 10 squids that like to ruin how people in cages view riders.

actually, from what I understand, lanesplitting's biggest advantage overall, to every motorist on the road, is to help traffic flow.  Allowing the motorbikes to move through opens up space for other traffic and overall helps traffic flow.  This is especially poignant because lanesplitting is only allowed when traffic is going VERY slow and not when it is moving at a normal clip.

+1 on what David said.

A personal experience I've had with gridlock on the highway is the hair raising experience of hearing tires screeching behind you when you find yourself on your bike and at a total stand still on the freeway. The last thing I want to be is the meat of a cage sammich.  :P

What ^ said.

I split lanes a total of three times over the two years on the monster.  Once was because the engine was running high 290's.  One was to keep from being rear ended by a car. The third was to get away from an inatentive semi driver who almost idled into me.  All three times were in stop and go traffic.

That said I'd not split on a regular basis without a public awareness campaign as people get too defensive about "their space" on the road and will try to run you off or into something to keep you behind them.

Zoomie, work permitting, I'll be there.....

Being a motorcyclist from California:  It is clearly very difficult for Texans (which I now am) to wrap their hands around the lane splitting debate...if only for  reason of never having experienced the process. Studies show majority of m/c accidents involving cars  in Cali are not on the freeway at all....very small percentage v. miles ridden...

We bikers know the risks when we ride.  Virtually every biker I see riding (except SpeedTrpl) is alert and watching...the real problem is cell phoners, texters, make-up queens and radio fiddlers...But we ride with those 'tards daily anyway...education about the (hopefully) new law will be paramount for all the high school/college kids out there who don't understand their vehicles are deadly missles..

We're doing our part for fuel economy, traffic density, air pollution even parts recycling...so we should be granted respect of an extra "lane" when things get grid locked.

Having spent a few years in So Cal myself, lanesplitting is a way of life.  I welcome the change to Texas highways!!!  [thumbsup]  Last week I was in San Dog and the cagers were much more aware (no cell phone use) behind the wheel than our easy going locals.  Outlawing cell phone use should go hand in hand w/lane splitting.  Love Austin, but the drivers scare the hell out of me on the Duc or in a cage... :o       

Imagine traffic as a box filled baseballs - drop in a marble, and it goes to the bottom.  Now, imagine the baseballs are cars - and marbles motorcycles... AND if it is appealing, more of those baseballs are removed and become marbles [no, not LOSE their marbles *chuckle*].  It keeps things moving.

OK, anyone and everyone else - I need you to send your Senator a message with your support for SB506.  At the same time, send Senator John Carona a message as well.  It takes just a moment, and will get us so much farther.  We need humans showing up, but if I can't have everyone there - I need at least a stack of printed emails.

We NEED a voice.  And, right now our voice is the TMRA - google it, I wouldn't want them linking back to here.  THEY are our voice.  They are making the legislature think WE want them talking for us - that is, if we don't do it ourselves.

Here's the contact info for the Senators:

Chair: Sen. John Carona (Introduced Bill)
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist16/dist16.htm (http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist16/dist16.htm)

Vice Chair: Sen. Kirk Watson
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist14/dist14.htm (http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist14/dist14.htm)

Sen. Wendy Davis
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist10/dist10.htm (http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist10/dist10.htm)

Sen. Rodney Ellis
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist13/dist13.htm (http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist13/dist13.htm)

Sen. Joan Huffman
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist17/dist17.htm (http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist17/dist17.htm)

Sen. Robert Nichols
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist3/dist3.htm (http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist3/dist3.htm)

Sen. Florence Shapiro
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist8/dist8.htm (http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist8/dist8.htm)

Sen. Eliot Shapleigh
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist29/dist29.htm (http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist29/dist29.htm)

Sen. Jeff Wentworth
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist25/dist25.htm (http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist25/dist25.htm)

When contacting, reference Texas SB 506 so they know what you're talking about.

Just emailed all of my Reps....it was easy....Power to the People Mo-Fos!!!! [thumbsup]

I have emailed, I will not be able to attend the hearing but I wanted to send my support.

I hope this bill passes, I come from England and grew up with filtering, there are many positives that can come from this.  If it is passed we become more visible to drivers which will eventually make us safer.  Yes it will take time and there will be some drivers that do not like us passing and will try to block us but at these speeds that should not be a problem, even in Europe some drivers do not want you to pass you just wait for a safe gap to appear then carry on your way.

I'll try to make it...

Hope everyone makes it out there safe and makes a good impression!  [thumbsup]

Break a leg folks. Errr...um, maybe not the best way to wish you guys/gals luck.  [cheeky]

Anyone know how the meeting went???

Mike,

Here's what the DFWM club is reporting:

"Good news out of the Transportation and Homeland Security committee:

I just contacted my Senator, Kirk Watson, and found out that he voted in favor of the bill and that the bill has been reported favourably by the Transportation committee. SB 506 is now available for placement on the Senate calendar. A calendar is a list of bills and resolutions that are scheduled to be considered by the full house or senate." 

I think the bill is on life-support, if it's not already dead.

A House sponsor for the Senate bill was never listed and the bill has now been removed from the schedule of the House committee on public safety.

jD

Life support is my specialty.  :P



That's too bad.  :P

Y'all ready????

Monday - 18th - House Committee for Public Safety.

WE HAVE ANOTHER HEARING!!!  Please show up if you can.  We need all the help we can.  The TMRA is up against us on this - and WILL be showing up in force to oppose.

Details:
COMMITTEE: Public Safety
TIME & DATE: 8:00 AM, Monday, May 18, 2009
PLACE: E2.014

There IS time to get this passed.  But, it needs to happen next week. 

I hope you get a great turn out this time around [thumbsup]

So I see the status of the bill was changed to "left pending in committee".  Does this mean it will probably die in the committee?

Did anyone from here go the the hearing?

where did you see that?  as per the other thread i checked

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/BillStages.aspx?LegSess=81R&Bill=SB506 (http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/BillStages.aspx?LegSess=81R&Bill=SB506)

and no changes so far...what site you got?

Click on the "History" tab.

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=81R&Bill=SB506 (http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=81R&Bill=SB506)

I do not understand the US political system but it does not sound good.

R.I.P.

It died yesterday while still in House committee.

On a Saturday?

Saturday was the last last day for house committees to report senate bills.  The committee didn't, so at midnight, the bill died.

 :P  Too bad. Seemed like a good one.

moving to austin soon, when i get there i was planning on getting a 696.. here in NY, anything on 2 wheeles does nothing else but split lanes... as it is against the law, doesn't seem to be as inforced as much depending on the area... how bad is it in Austin?    when i was in there bout 4 months ago (i drove over) it seemed drivers there weren't as bad as here.. well i guess not as aggressive...  but driving in ny all day will make you a better driver.. lol..

My advise would be to never split lanes here. You probably don't need to worry about the police as much as you have to worry about the person in their large vehicle getting pissed off at your more intelligent choice of transportation and doing something that does you harm.

But, welcome to Texas!

You need to get it retitled "LANE SHARING"

Sharing is good

Splitting is bad

Filtering is neutral.

Tht is true...  Ty ty..


Also true..