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I tried searching but cant find any threads on my questions. I have an 07 S2R1K and want to change the exhaust. I am pretty sure the ExBox should run fine on the bike with Fatduc. I read that a  few did it and it works well as long as I dont mess with the airbox. I was also looking at the boom tubes as I like the look as well. So my questions are:

Will boom tubes run well with just fatduc installed since there is no back pressure from them?

How would you rate ExBox vs boomtubes?

Are boomtubes a lot lauder than ExBox?

My main concern is will the bike run well just with boomtubes and fatduc so that I do not have to mess around with any tuning afterward?

Thanks

BoomTubes will be louder, don't know about the fatduc system. I have an 06 with the O2 sensore removed and a PCIII...

boomtubes have varying amounts of backpressure, depending on how you request them to be baffled.  I would recommend you hit up Mark at MotoCreations for all your boomtube inquiries; he's been able to answer all the questions I had about them, so he should be very helpful for you as well.  I should add he's very honest too; just because he makes the boomtubes doesn't mean he's gonna feed you a bunch of BS just to sell his product.  Just tell him what you want and he can steer you in the right direction.

Hey Mduc - please follow-up with your results, I happen to be looking at both Ex box and boomtubes as well (Zards too).  I'd love to hear the results of your conversation.

Thanks,

Kevin

I just got my boomtubes. Once I install with PC I'll be more helpful.

 [thumbsup]

so personal experience with exbox:

WORST FITMENT EVER.

I bought a pair from Motowheels. Complained to them about fitment. Since I lived nearby they told me to drop my bike off and they would fit the exhaust from me. 1 week later I get a call.

Motowheels: "Yeah you're right, the fitment sucks on this piece. That happens with some italian manufacturers sometimes"

Ended up trading it in for a pair of arrows.. - EXACTLY the opposite in the fitment category.

BTW...My boom tubes are on order should be here in a week or so. They weigh like 7 pounds total. Exbox weights like 15

Oh an by the way, boomtubes even with the ceramic coating are cheaper than the Ex-Box..

My dislike for the exbox is slowly oozing out once again. The pain lingers..

Seriously, you guys have no idea how much I had to endure.

Almost how I felt about my Termis.  A local guy had to cut an s-pipe, rotate the halves and weld it back together.

My Ex-Box bolted up perfectly. 

how baffeled can you get with the boomtubes? From the sound of nakids bike, its way to loud. but army_intels biike sounds pretty sweet. Would be great if we could get some professional sound clips of it!

After a week of trying to fit it right, i took a torch to it heated the rear cylinder header piece till it was glowing red hot and bent it. It fit better but it would backfire at 4k EVERY time...

I dare you to something different

Wow thank you all for the responses. I will try to give them a call tomorrow from work if I have some time. I don't know how much baffling can be done but I will ask when I call.

I like the sound of the Arrows but I definitely like the look of the open wheel. I guess I can check youtube for boom tubes sound but there is nothing like standing next to the bike to see if you like it.

Will post something after I speak with them.

Damn I cant wait to get this bike complete cause I don't know how much more my wallet can take.  ;D

Wonder which will crack first the wallet or the wife  [evil]

Yeah, I got a used exbox from someone on here and the fitment leaves much to be desired.  That said, i prefer the look of the Exbox over the boomtubes.

I don't know who off hand, but there are a couple manufacturers that offer dual underdeat, or seatside highmount pipes that leave a lot more visibility of the rear wheel.  A friend of mine has an S4R with these dual highmounts, and they look pretty slick.  No big gap between wheel and bike, and no wheel removal issues.

Having said that, I gotta say, having the Arrow Ti system with removable baffles if hella nice (on my 06 S2R1K)

You have to remember, mine is NOT BAFFLED AT ALL...

Zards makes the dual-underseat configuration... and they supposedly work quite well with the stock ECU.  The guys at Ducpond seem to like them.  They keep the rear wheel exposed, and the pipes tuck in well so as not to clutter things up.  I'm hoping to ride with someone who has them on an S2R so I can hear them.

Look forward to hearing what the Boom Tube guy tells you about baffling. 

Kevin

My Ex-Box have/had no issues with the fitment.  It takes a little wiggling here and there which, is expected with most exhaust systems (auto exhausts are no different) and I see this as "normal" and "acceptable" and not a design flaw.

3000 miles later, zero problems and I still think that the Ex-Box is the only design that flows with the SS monster's.  IMHO

Side note and for future reference since this questions pops up in my inbox once in awhile. My set up are as follows; Ex-Box, DP-open airbox, 14t front sprocket and dealer reprogrammed stock ecu. 

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Short video.  Note; video was taken 50 miles after install, the sound is a bit more louder after a few thousand miles.

Ducati S4Rs Quat-D Ex-box (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcdBugerBBE#lq-hq)

My boomtubes should be in sometime next week.  I went with the most restrictive baffling, but Mark (Motocreations) said that the baffles are easily removable/interchangeable so I can go with more restriction or less. +1 on talking to Mark.  He is super knowledgeable and not pushy in the slightest.   I posted on another thread that I am going to try and get a professional videographer friend to film the bike with its current system (no udder and cored cans) both sitting still and driving by and then do the same after the boomtube install.  Hopefully all by next weekend......

Anyone know of a high mount system (like the arrows) that use smaller mufflers ?
I as well have been fighting with trying to find an exhaust system that will both give me the sound I want (loud) but also not cover up the back wheel (which was one of the things that drew me to buy the bike).

Maybe I could buy the high mount arrow system, ditch the mufflers, and find some smaller cans ?
Anyone have a Arrow system they wanna sell me minus the mufflers ?  ;D I would almost perfer to have a system that exits the rear of the bike rather than under the bike (like the boomtubes) as far as noice/headache wise.

You may want to consider using a sound recorder rather than any kind of video camera (unless like you said, its a pro model or something)

Too many people do sound reviews on ebay and such that in no way show true sound differences on the bikes. Sure they sounbd different, but you have no idea how. Some guys at work are into Audis and BMWs and are doing this. I may post a "video" of stock 696 and Termi exhaust, but show pictures of the bike instead while playing a mor accurate sound recording.

Just a thought.

+1

boomtubes.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ_VPOcDo5k&feature=channel_page#hq)
(not my bike) but thats essentially how the production models sound when compared to army_intels. Another thing to note is, if you can close that clutch up for the video cause its way to freaking loud!

My friend is a video professional with a pro camera and pro mic's (he freelances for Discovery and is a documentary film maker).  I am also trying to round up a decibel meter.  That is also why I am going to do before and after with the same equipment, because sound recording is relative to the equipment used in the amateur arena and relative to both equipment and the mix on the pro side. 

awesome, im sure that's going to work amazing. Post when its done?  [beer]

I agree..
It would take 5 min to put the stock cover back on (if you still have it) before you shoot the video.
Would def. help with hearing the exhaust and not the clutch.

I'm still waiting for someone to post dyno number(s) on the testa boom-tub'd bikes  [thumbsup] [coffee]

To address a few questions and comments from above. (and via two e-mails to myself this morning to post here)

- ExBox?  I've seen them but wasn't that impressed.  But it appears it does a decent job for the price being a mass produced exhaust system.

- Arrows?  Nice systems.  I like the machined couplings and the quality of welds, springs and attachments.  I've had quite a few on/off bikes and never a problem with them.  There are some beautiful welds on these systems!  I have no problem recommending these to folks if the style suits yourself.

- Nakid's BoomTubes?  Older generation model (not like the current design at all). His current setup has ZERO baffling installed (he removed the baffles) -- it is straight pipes.

- Our baffling and sound clips?  All the baffles are custom made in stainlessse.  I tend to vary them depending upon the owners response on what he is looking for in "sound levels".  They will never be whisper quiet -- but given the number of sheriff/police officers running them on Monsters that I know of -- no compliants.  The sound is definitely different than the traditional Ducati rear mounted "exhaust can" setup.  Problem is that since almost every baffle is slightly different, they never sound exactly the same.  And given most are installed via dealerships or owners -- we don't necessarily get many good quality sound clips provided to us. (or that can be compared)  And the sound exits a difference place than the traditional "exhaust can" location -- thus it can sound louder/quieter depending upon where you are recording the sound level from. (some exhaust vendors point their exhausts upward for a reason, less reverb of sounds waves bouncing across the pavement upon exit)

- Materials we use.  System weight for the S4RS setup is 6.5lbs bare. 7.3 w/baffles. 7.5 w/tips. (system variance is @.2lbs depending mostly on baffle construction itself)  We could have gone almost another pound lighter in terms of weight -- but I went with a heavier wall stainless setup (.059 vs industry standard .45-.049ish wall thickness).  Two reasons being 1) longevity and resistance to denting; 2) smoother sound characteristics.  I can instantly identify the material / resonance difference of four sets of identical built BoomTubes in differing materials: .049 mild steel; .059 mild steel; .049 stainless and .059 stainless.  It's why I ultimately chose what we use for the base system setup now.

- Baffles?  For those who think JC Whitney baffles are the hot setup -- think again.  I used something similiar in design until 18 months ago.  Never again.  We now do a handmade perf'd tube that is TIG welded with a few tricks as required to tune the sound.  We only do them in heavier wall stainless as per the exhaust systems themselves.  You get what you pay for.  They are also removable (riveted) for further tuning as required later or complete removal.

Am I an expert in exhaust systems?  No.  I just know what works in making systems like we build and sell (with a lot of experimentation / testing and research work along the way over the years to get to the current production configuration) -- something very minimal in terms of visual style (our "less is more" design mantra), lightweight (under 8lbs complete or less) and still have acceptable street use sound levels. (although not all of our customers use our baffles setups as they want LOUD LOUD LOUD)  

- Carbonfiber crossover/collector assembly w/tips?  Not at this time but it is something we are looking at for summer 2010 if sales warrant.  (it would be retrofitable as well to existing systems)

[addendum]
- The answer is YES -- I've used my exhaust systems to clean the driveway.  Probably the largest displacement dust blower ever created!

Well I called and spoke with Mark, Great guy and very informative. I noticed he posted before I got a chance. Basically he told me what he posted already. When you will want the exhaust, he will ask what you want. He can customize it to your liking. I asked if he can put baffles in so they are not ridiculously loud and have more back pressure so that I can use fatduc and he can have made whatever I want when it comes to it.

He can baffle it as much or as little as you want. Since the baffles come off easily, once you put them on and are not satisfied with the sound level, you can send them back to him so he can modify them to more of your liking.

After speaking with him and the explanation with what he can and can't do for what I want, I think that sometime in the summer I will order the boom tubes from them.

Again big  [thumbsup] to Mark for all the questions he answered and to all the people that replied to my post.

 [moto] safe

So if I read this right, you are saying depending on the baffleing Mark can get a set of BoomTubes to work with nothing more than the FatDuc ? I believe when I spoke with him I was needing a new ECU to run his pipes..?

When I asked Mark about Fatduc he said that he ran a PC with his pipes. I am the one assuming that if he puts more baffles, fatduc will run since there is more backpressure as with the Quad system.

When I finish the stuff I am doing with the bike now and I get it back, I think I will give boom tubes a try and see if they will work with just the fatduc. Since I dont want to mess with a PC or any other gizmo, I will take a chance to see if it works on my bike. If it doesn't work, I guess I will try to ebay the boomtubes and go with Quad or Arrows.

BTW I am not looking for any gains in power as I really dont care for more, The bike has plenty for me as it is. I am mainly going for the look and sound.

When I try the boomtubes sometime later in the year I will post and let you know how it went.

I have to say, I doubt you'll have a problem running just the FatDuc Mod.  I'm running a KN filter, full Arrow system, and a FatDuc, and I had to trim the Duc to not run too rich.  The bikes aren't SUPER lean stock, they are a little lean, on purpose...  The FatDuc can enrich the mix rather substantially.  Are the BoomTubes so much more open than the full Arrow System?

With the full system I trimmed the Fat and lost a lot of backfiring by moving toward lean.  That should give you an idea how rich my 06 S2R1K was running with the listed mods.  You should be all right.

shhh ill buy the boomtubes off ya if they dont work for you. I have a Rapid bike 3 module!

FWIW, the set of BoomTubes I have had baffles to start with. I ran NOTHING for fuel enhancement and was totally fine. The only thing I had done was removed the O2 sensor...

I have CF arrows and I love them, but if I didnt already have the arrow pipes i'd get me some boom tubes, they are just bad ass!

I love my ExBox, but would trade it for BoomTubes no problem!  Oh yeah, almost forgot...I live in NYC and they are currently trying to ram through some draconian exhaust legislation here... 

So, how much can you baffle the boom tubes?  I love the boom tubes, but I also like my neighbors.  I've heard some videos, but I don't think they really represent the sound.  Can you give me an idea of where the baffled boom tubes rank in terms of say, stock exhaust, udders only, ex-box, arrows, and zards?  Not trying to give you a homework assignment, just curious.

Thanks

I second that.  I want the boomtubes but don't know if I'll give-up the Termis if the power/torque is lost.  anyone?

I should be able to post numbers by Monday.

thanks

Well, I got the boomtubes in on Friday and installed them today.  My friend with the video and sound equipment is out of town on a shoot, so no video of the old system.  I did round up a decibel meter and here is what I found:

No udder, cored cans (previous set up):

• idle = 87 dB
• 4500rpm = 101 dB
• 8000rpm = 106 dB

Boomtubes

• idle = 96 dB
  
• 4500rpm = 108 dB
• 8000rpm = 114 dB

I haven't ridden it because the weather was gross here today.  It idles a little slower now, but that is all I can tell you without riding it.  They look great and I'll take some pics once the weather gets a bit better.

thanks.
will you be getting it dynoed?

Not any time soon.  Because of the baffling, Mark thinks I won't need anything more than the stock ECU.  If it won't run right, I'll get a reflash and a dyno run.

Installed with power commander and airbox. 2005 S2R 800 is now making 75.5 HP at the rear with 55 ft lbs of torque. Sounds awesome.

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I'll take better pictures and hopefully video in a few days.

sweet!  I hope this means I can be expecting my package in the next day or 2!  I too have an s2r 800 and I gotta say they look great on your bikes, it builds my anxiety all the more!

(3 sets) of S2R800 and the first S4R (the 2-into-1 exhaust port headers are nice!) set of production BoomTubes go out UPS on Monday.  Then a set for a DS1000 Sport Classic Ducati on Tuesday!  I'm finishing up the exhaust tips and baffles for the latter two systems tonight and Monday morning.  Next up is a set for a HyperMotard enthusiast as well. (and a few more S4RS and "custom build" exhaust systems for a few enthusiasts and a well known Ducati custom builder...)

Thanks folks for the enthusiasm on the BoomTubes -- it is greatly appreciated!  We've had a few hiccups/headaches along the way in making these happen and putting the process into place, but it's all worth it to be honest.  Hopefully our balance between "manufacturing" and still incorporating "hand finished details" truly differentiates us from everyone else out there. (besides the basic design itself)

+1 on working with Mark.  He builds a quality product and really stands behind it.  Can't wait for more of his stuff..... [clap]

I didn't see a set for the 696.  Is this in the works?

Mark is looking for a 696 in the NW for mock up.

Indianapolis realy isn NW, but I'm willing to test parts.

did you get the Duc ECU?  I'm running full Termis and PCIII and get only 71 hp and 53 torque.  have the exact same bike too.
thanks.

Stock ECU with open airbox. Did you get a custom map?

I did get it mapped.  would that make it less potent? 

Open airbox? Did the tech that worked on it put enough time into it? They put 180 miles on the dyno for my map. It takes a lot of time to fully map it out.

QUESTION:
Has anyone put some miles on a bike with the boom tube setup ?
I ask becasue I am curious to see if the pipes exiting directly under your right ear is a bother ?
I know riding a hour or so with the open udder def. gets to me.

I spent about two hours on it tonight, riding about an hour each way to an event.  On the way there I used ear plugs, on the way back I didn't.  I could definitely "feel" it in my ears by the time I got home.  I wouldn't say that I could tell it was nosier in the right ear though.....YMMV

That's what I thought..
Not that it's a big deal while blasting around town, but after a hour or so that "drone" does get old.

I now find myself shifting differently to keep the RPM's in the quiet spot.  On the open highway that is easier to do.  In town, with all the reverberations from other hard objects and the constant accel/decel, it is impossible to do.  As I sped through the 395 tunnel in DC on my way home last night the sound was awesome.  Completely filled the tunnel.  They were doing construction and I think every worker stopped and looked up.

Mark and I are going to play with different baffles to see if we can get it a little more mild mannered.  Its not so loud that earplugs don't work, and at idle, it is mellow enough not to piss off the neighbors when I let it warm up.

I ran your setup for a few years. The tubes are not so much louder than the udder. They just sound better. Under heavy load they are louder, but under normal acceleration they are fine. I would not want to stand to my right as I'm going along, but with ear plugs, you should be fine.

Dear MotoCreations Mark,

Any chance on making a dual rear exit exhaust setup in the near future ?

Unfortunately not for the S2R*, S4R* nor Hypermotard, Sportclassic, etc .  We can custom modify a production BoomTube system though based upon time/materials quote.

If/when we can ever find a Northwest enthusiast with a 696/1100, we will do BoomTubes as well as a unique underseat exhaust system arrangement for these.

Under seat? Now that would be sweet.

+1

i think you should pack up your tools come to germany and taka e vacation. then you could use my bike.

I got my boom tubes two days ago. I finally got time to install them today. Personal opinion, they look awesome! I did have Mark do some additional modifications so review the picture with the following in mind:

1) I thought the stock boomtubes ones looked a little too long (they stick out too much). I didnt know if this would impact lean angle either so I requested them to be chopped about 1 3/8 inches.

2) I didnt like the fact that the inside pipe (closer to the front wheel) looked longer than the back outside pipe (closer to the back wheel). It generated an angle that to me didnt go with the lines of the bike. I requested them to be chopped at angle to run parallel to the center line of the bike. Mark did this perfectly.

3) I didnt like the cone pipes. Mark provided some options and custom fabbed me a set

For comparison purposes I have linked a previous photo posted by duccarlos so your guys can see the differences.

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Here are photos of my slightly modified boomtubes

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VERY NICE. i think you did some great mods to an already great product.

now just remove the frame stickers, take off your side panels and rerun your oilcoller line ;)

I agree 150% !
Those pipes def. "flow" with the bike much more..
Might have to go this route on my bike (with black pipes though)...

+1

+2
I just emailed Mark @ MotoCreations to see what a set of pipes like the ones above would run (with ceramic coated black pipes and brushed tips). If all is well I will be ordering up a set ASAP..

DAMNIT! Someone in the NW part of the states needs to man the F- up and drop their 696 off at MotoCreations so they can work on a set for the 696. If I had all the time in the world I would personally ride up from Texas to get it done.

If anyone of you are going to reference my pipes just tell Mark its the ones that got run over at the powdercoater's and confiscated by the ATF 2 weeks ago

Dont ASK...

Exactly what I did last night when I ordered up my Boom Tubes [thumbsup]
Going to do the same setup as you, just with black pipes and brushed tips.
Going to really make my bike...

1+  dude knows his stuff, and will go out of his way to honestly answer all your questions.

Anyone have a video of a bike riding/under load with a set of BoomTubes on them ?
If not I will get one posted once my bike is back together..

If my wife hadnt taken the HD camera and skipped town for her sister's wedding I would..maybe next week I'll post something.

ProTeal55, did you get the boomtube you ordered?  I am interested in how they look installed.  we need pics please.  i might get a set myself with the black pipes with angle ends.

thanks

Not yet.
They are scheduled to ship end of this week so I should have them in my grubby hands the week after.
Believe me as soon as they get installed (and I get the bike washed) I will get some good pics posted...

Another update.  Mark from MotoCreations was kind enough to send me a more restrictive set of baffles to play with. I installed them today and they took 5dB off across the range.  While that sounds like a small decrease, it makes a world of difference.  It puts it just 4dB louder than my modified stock set up at idle and a couple of dB louder at 4500 RPM. Short rides are now possible without earplugs.  Yeah for Mark at MotoCreations  [thumbsup]

thats cool cuz i want boom tubes, but i dont really want them louder then my open udder. are you still happy with them? hasnt drove you crazy?

and where are all these videos people are saying their going to make huh? i want to hear a flyby most of all. ;D

I am looking to have some videos of my bike (and the boomtubes) up next week.
Trying to adapt my buddies on board camera mount to my Monster so I can get a riding video, as well as have him film me as a fly bye (tollway speeds)..

They are much better with the new baffles.  I find I still need earplugs for anything more than a quick trip to the store.  Honestly, I like their looks a lot, but have been going back and forth regarding a different exhaust.

the clutch noise actually helps me with a reference point. at idle, you hear more clutch than exhaust, which i think is even a bit quieter than my termi's.

it definitely lives up to it's name, however, when you throttle it. more harley and less ducati  ???

for sure i love the looks! going to have to think a bit more about the noise... hmmm

thanks for the info!

with the color of your bike, especially the white wheels, this is perfect!

Maybe it's just me, or maybe I am used to riding HD's with full open exhausts but these BoomTubes arent that loud.
Believe me they sound killer, and are "loud", but def. not "headache" loud. I do have some sorta baffles in my setup (not sure which ones), but I could def. stand to go louder (which I might do in the future once I get the thing tuned).
I am running a FATDUC (with the stock ECU) but after changing my plugs a few days ago (fairly white)I think I need to invest in a PCIII and some dyno time... [bang]

dyno tune = best mod  [thumbsup]


ps. PT your bike is CLEAN!

Thanks for the kind words.
Really nothing much more than ripping off what isnt needed and blacking out stuff that Ducati should of done from the factory.
Here's the latest pic with the sidecovers removed--->
If I like the look (still on the fence) I am going to commit to removing all the stock tabs (side covers/stock exhaust tab/pass. peg mounts/etc) and have it all smoothed and painted to clean up the bike that much more...

Well here is my quick vid excuse some of the words I mispronounce missed out on some valuable sleep was lookin crazy as well. Running fat duc, Stock ECU, regular baffles from Motocreation's and got the short tips. Not sure if the fitment issues were user related or just the way they are but hopefully I have not made a fool of myself  ;D. 
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Before
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After (still a work in progress need to find a tech for rerouting the starter and senosr cable before opening belts)
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Damn....as an early Ex-Box adoptee, I gotta say those Boom Tubes are pretty nice. Had I to do it over again, I think I'd go for the tubes.

Best vid yet on expressing the true sound, it really comes through well. Good job [thumbsup]

Taken this past Saturdy under the "L" in the city....
After more than a few attempts it really is hard to get the video to capture the sound these setups make..
Was going to make the videos with the stock/closed clutch cover on the bike but ended up stripping one of the bolts in the process [thumbsup]
Once that is resolved I will have an "on board" video of me riding thru Lower Wacker Drive to post soon...

bike looks great. thanks for the vids. really looks cool, but it's just too loud for my tastes  :'(

 :-\ Yeah it kind of has a Harley type sound to it now but still has the Ducati growl on decel. If your ever lonely well this will get you all the attention you need. Other great news Mark contacted me upon seeing this thread and has offered to send me a new header [thumbsup].

 [laugh]  That doesn't sound like any Harley I've ever heard!

The BoomTubes def. do have their own sound..
I thought my bike sounded kinda like a HD untill I went riding around with my buddy Frank who has a Buell with a "custom" exhaust on it.
My bike def. doesnt sound like a Harley  ;D

All this likening of the sound to harley engines is pretty strange, and quite opposite of my experience.  All I can say is the videos just can't capture the sound properly.  I've been running boomtubes for months and since I've got my popping issue resolved, the sound is incredible and nothing like a harley.  I've had this happen twice now, where somebody is around when I fire the bike up and they say to me, "sounds a lot like a harley," then I go ahead and rip the right handle a couple times and they follow up with "wow, nevermind!"

I wonder if anybody who's installed the termi kit on their harley (yes, termignoni produces exhaust systems for H-D) thinks it makes them sound like a duc...

If I may ask what did you do to accomplish this ?

Nice hat bro.

PCIII with custom map on mine took care of that real quick.

Kinda thought u were gonna say that.
Sometime over the winter my bike has a date with a Dyno (and is getting a PCIII)...

?

Many folks might not agree with me. They might say you would do better with the DP ECU. I tried installing the DP ECU and it did not work properly. I installed the PC and got it dynoed and OMFG what a difference!

I cruised by a local "ducati" night last night here in the city and talked to more than a few Monster owners with aftermarket exhaust.
Pretty much all had their bikes equipped with a PCIII and they said after some dyno tuning their bikes have never ran better..
So this is def. the route I am going to go come this winter (for next season). I can have the PCIII installed and the bike dynoed for the
price of the Ducati Performance ECU alone..

That's what I said, but I guess some here have money coming out their ass.

there should be a sticky on every ducati forum to do this 1st! it's a dream come true experience of smoothness, optimum fuel mileage, and power. every time i twist the throttle i thank myself for the $3K investment.

$3K?  :o

ordered some tubes today. mark was very cool and helpful and i cant wait until they arrive!

I took the pipes back off, cleaned the slip fit junctions, and applied some silicone compound hi-temp gasket sealer on the inside of each female end of the slip fits.  This took care of my popping and exhaust leakage.

Very nice!!  Like the sound...  I personally LOVE my ExBox system but DAMN was it a PITA to get on.  I eventually had to take it to the local dealer and have them finish the last connection.  They then adjusted the stock ECU and that's it (oh and removed the O2).  I get 50mpg+, runs smooth, sounds great (took out the baffles, and under normal riding, is fairly quiet, and when I get on it or engine brake, jumps in decibels, which is exactly what I wanted), and I like the looks just a bit better than the Booms.  At the time that I did this, if I had been doing my research, I probably would've gone with the Booms, but oh well, I'm very happy (got a good deal as well from MotoCreations)!  Oh, and I had them ceramic coated flat black locally (pipes and exhaust). Definitely one of a kind in my area (let alone PNW)... :)

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm306/mnp69/Cara/cara02.jpg)

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If I ever change it out, will look into the Booms!  Nice bikes all!   [thumbsup]

I don't understand preferring that box sitting down there over a couple of simple pipes...

Tubes all the way.

Got the bike dynoed

Hope this helps people get an idea of what boomtubes sound like at high rpm

Please note I have pods as well so a lot of the induction noise is from that too.

Ducati Monster S2R 800 - Boom Tube Exhaust w/ TPO Pod Filters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__2EglF18ak#ws-normal)

ProTeal, what pc3 will you use for an S2R? I want to do the same but not sure which one people are using.

Thats a good question, which I do not have a answer for at the moment.
I have heard (I do not know for a fact) that Corse Ducati (in WI) has adapted some PCIII to S2R1K's with great results. I had heard this from a few Ducati guys I ran into here in the city one night. They had a few S2R1K's with aftermarket exhausts and raved about how this dealer in WI was able to make their bikes run better than ever before..

If I hear/find out more I will def. post it up here 4 sure...

Hey MotoCreations,

It hasn't been asked in a while (almost 6 months) so here goes: Any word on the 696/1100 set of Boom Tubes?

Still looking for a Northwest 696.  Anyone?

M1100?  First prototype set is almost finished.  We will do exhaust designs other than just BoomTubes for this model as well.  Other stuff for the M1100 -- all I'll say is that we have a lot of people creating a LOT of parts for the 1100 currently! (and most will fit the 696 as well)  More upcoming within the next six plus weeks. (thank you DMF'er Jerry! Wait until you see his bike!)

That is good news about the 1100.  If we are looking at 6 weeks out, I will hold off on buying anything else and just sit on my thumbs... quietly.  :)  I will PM you later to get more info.

I would have to vote Boomtubes.  The Exbox seems like a space aged udder to me.
Here is a sample of Mark's custom work. 

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Bike screams with these pipes.  Good bit louder then my Termi's and a hell of a lot sharper sound. 

..and look better, keep the rear wheel open, etc... [evil] [evil]

Yeah, dropping the cans really opens up the ass end.  Fueling the desire to take the whole freakin thing apart, cut the passenger peg mounts, exhaust hanger, and have the frame/swingarm powdercoated.  Then I can lose the side panels without having all of those eyesores hanging out the bottom. 

I hear ya on the brkts and stuff.
I am going to "tackle" that over the winter..
Bike looks too good with the sidecovers off to ever think of putting them back on..
So I am (very carefully) going to remove them from the frame, and have my buddy do alittle touch-up painting once all is done and smooth...

For the M1100 Monster folks -- @85% finished.  Collector/outlets aren't cut to length yet.

Will post pictures with different rearsets as well. (factory ones look like chicken wings!)

Will finish a second outlet configuration as well for this setup as well.

note: as for the parts missing on the M1100? Remember we are doing more than just exhausts for this bike.  I put quite a few parts back onto it for the pictures...

(http://www.motocreations.com/dmf/M1100BoomTubed.2s.jpg)
(http://www.motocreations.com/dmf/M1100BoomTubed.3s.jpg)
(http://www.motocreations.com/dmf/M1100BoomTubed.4s.jpg)
(http://www.motocreations.com/dmf/M1100BoomTubed.1s.jpg)

As always Mark the pipes look great !

I LOVE the way these looks.  [clap]

In the queue -- S2R1000 iteration is upcoming due to demand. (S2R800 folks?)

Everyone else -- thank you for the compliments!  :)

Currently we are going to finish all the M1100 (2 BoomTube iterations which will be available in a few weeks and 2 other exhaust system setups that nobody has dreamed of later), HM (BoomTubed and an outlet iteration thereof), SportClassic (2006 specific) and then the StreetFighter systems.  Still need to source a 696 via a Northwest enthusiast this Winter...

HyperMotard iteration (we are doing some bodywork panels for this as well) -- unfortunately very few people look at the vendors section of this website.

(http://www.motocreations.com/dmf/HyperBoomTubed.jpg)

I do, way cool.

BoomTubes - mine are the all-black ceramic coated, slash cut...killer sound, had some stalling issues when running just the udder. No stalling issues now. Plus, they look great (open wheel and all that). Have had a lot of people around town comment on them as well. Mark is way helpful and can baffle them however you'd like.

I have no sound comparison to the ExBox, but my line of thinking - why pull off the udder and replace it with a square-ish one.



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Damn, love the look of the boomtubes on m1100..

Do you ship to Sweden?  [beer]

That is sweet! I wish i had a HyperMotard  ;D

Makes two of us..
Those bikes are def. growing on me.
Looking forward to picking up one used down the road...

does anyone know if there's a muffler in the exbox box itself? or is it just like boomtube but with a metal box around the 2 pipes for visuals?

I've had mine apart.  They're apart again, and I'm putting on grommeted brackets.  It'll be for sale soon.

There is a sort of "diffuser" on the inside.

I posted pics of the inside somewhere on here.  I'll look later and post them up.

Did somebody say underseat?  ;D  I cant wait to see this and the monoBOOM.... 

Is it ready yet?

How about now?

Did I mention that I cant wait..... lol

Getting rid of the under-seat cans on the Hyper really cleans that bike up. Very nice.

HP #'s?

That is great looking system!!

Mark, are those tips, (only) available for purchase?