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Title: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: TAftonomos on March 15, 2009, 11:29:15 AM
I no longer have the access I thought I did to a bridgeport.

Need my top triple bored to 53mm..... [thumbsup]

TAftonomos@gmail.com
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: El Matador on March 15, 2009, 11:34:45 AM
Pm Qfactor.
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: MotoCreations on March 15, 2009, 12:16:47 PM
you don't need to bore the triple -- it will fit if you tried a bit harder like on this one S4R that came into my shop for "minor fixes".

(http://www.motocreations.com/dmf/borejob.jpg)

Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: Porsche Monkey on March 15, 2009, 12:57:51 PM
Um, ouch
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: He Man on March 15, 2009, 01:02:52 PM
ok please tell me that is a crashed bike. not someone attempting to install oversized forks. cause that warrants a boot to the face.
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: needtorque on March 15, 2009, 01:04:13 PM
The ignorance of some people never ceases to amaze lol.
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: DarkStaR on March 15, 2009, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: MotoCreations on March 15, 2009, 12:16:47 PM
you don't need to bore the triple -- it will fit if you tried a bit harder like on this one S4R that came into my shop for "minor fixes".

What does the rest of the bike look like?  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: TAftonomos on March 15, 2009, 04:04:25 PM
Quote from: MotoCreations on March 15, 2009, 12:16:47 PM
you don't need to bore the triple -- it will fit if you tried a bit harder like on this one S4R that came into my shop for "minor fixes".

(http://www.motocreations.com/dmf/borejob.jpg)



Thanks!  I just spit coffee everywhere!  I like how the lower isn't shimmed either, although with the lack of attention on the upper, who would even notice the lower being a bit "off" as well [laugh] [laugh] [clap] [clap]
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: rgramjet on March 15, 2009, 05:53:22 PM
I bought a 53mm Cycle Cat top triple ( blem) from Oncycles.com for $119, if I remember correctly....only thing I could find wrong with it is a tiny x scratched into the underside. 

Paired it with a used set of Ferracci clip ons I bought for $100.  Ive seen Moto Wheels clip ons used for $75....  Shop around.

Note: the reason why I went this route is a local machinist wanted $150 just to bore the top triple...
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: Langanobob on March 15, 2009, 06:31:18 PM
QuoteNote: the reason why I went this route is a local machinist wanted $150 just to bore the top triple...

That is more than I would want to pay.  But to be fair to your machinist, it's a precision job and the set up is what takes time and he has expenses and not much of that $150 stays in his pocket.   So, although from our point of view it's a lot of money, it's far from EZ money for the machinist.
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: Monsterlover on March 15, 2009, 07:27:46 PM
I don't agree.

I don't have my mill yet, but if I did I'd do it for like $50. That covers my time and gives him a deal. Tooling costs are negligable in this application.

But that's just how I'd look at it.
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: TAftonomos on March 15, 2009, 07:43:13 PM
I don't agree either.

Clamp that sucker down.

Indicate it.

Set up the boring bar, and make chips.  A halfway decent metal chipper should be able to do the whole thing in an hour TOPS!
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: Spidey on March 15, 2009, 07:45:18 PM
I've got a dremel, a hammer and a case of PBR.  Send it to me.  I gots skillz.  [drink]   [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: hooligan machinist on March 15, 2009, 07:47:07 PM
Quote from: TAftonomos on March 15, 2009, 07:43:13 PM
I don't agree either.

Clamp that sucker down.

Indicate it.

Set up the boring bar, and make chips.  A halfway decent metal chipper should be able to do the whole thing in an hour TOPS!

Quote from: Monsterlover on March 15, 2009, 07:27:46 PM
I don't agree.

I don't have my mill yet, but if I did I'd do it for like $50. That covers my time and gives him a deal. Tooling costs are negligable in this application.

But that's just how I'd look at it.


Agreed, 30 minutes setup and i could use any of a half dozen tools in the cnc to size those holes in less than a minute.
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: ducpainter on March 15, 2009, 07:50:08 PM
I'd use sand paper.
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: Monsterlover on March 15, 2009, 07:56:47 PM
You would...
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: TAftonomos on March 15, 2009, 09:21:15 PM
Quote from: Spidey on March 15, 2009, 07:45:18 PM
I've got a dremel, a hammer and a case of PBR.  Send it to me.  I gots skillz.  [drink]   [thumbsup]

Loose the PBR, go with a six'r of MGD and you can drop the price another 5$  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: 2001cromo on March 16, 2009, 05:32:19 AM
Quote from: MotoCreations on March 15, 2009, 12:16:47 PM
you don't need to bore the triple -- it will fit if you tried a bit harder like on this one S4R that came into my shop for "minor fixes".

(http://www.motocreations.com/dmf/borejob.jpg)

If I remember correctly that bike turned into a real black beauty! Mike's a lucky man that mess came across your door step.

Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: TiAvenger on March 16, 2009, 11:50:16 AM
FYI, mine was 40 bucks to have bored.  That price included the custom shims ( .5 mm bands, solid  [evil])
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: scduc on March 16, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Not sure if boring them open is a good idea. That will make them weaker. Are not the 53mm ones larger overall?
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: MotoCreations on March 16, 2009, 05:15:16 PM
Quote from: 2001cromo on March 16, 2009, 05:32:19 AM
If I remember correctly that bike turned into a real black beauty! Mike's a lucky man that mess came across your door step.

Not Black Fog (S4 Foggy originally) -- although that bike was just as screwed up with the SBK swingarm hackjob ("hackjob" is a compliment to what they really did to it!) and other damage from hitting the ground on both sides and bending things.  The above was a 2005 S4R Monster that had seen better days but is currently being rebuilt. 

Would you believe I've actually seen worse?  Two in fact.  Another S4R that got disassembled and the good remainder parts were sold off in pieces.  Second was a "custom Ducati powered sportbike" that a customer brought in -- I returned it untouched with the cavaet it best should be planted in the front yard as a yard ornament -- it really was that horribly built.  Fortunately it was also parted out shortly thereafter.
Title: Re: Anyone here....can you bore my top triple?
Post by: NAKID on March 16, 2009, 06:05:27 PM
Quote from: scduc on March 16, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Not sure if boring them open is a good idea. That will make them weaker. Are not the 53mm ones larger overall?

Really you're talking about taking 1.5mm off the entire circumference, not a lot of material...