Ducati Monster Forum

Okay so after the discussion on "too Oggy knob" or "too not Oggy knob"
I have been wanting to go and do the Stay Upright Advanced course.
There are two dates coming up in June that I am looking at right now.

Monday June 2
Friday June 6

If anyone wants to come learn I'll know by next week which day I am going to book.

cheers
Matty...

I was going to suggest something similar, I have done the advanced course before, always sain I would do it again on any new bike I get. I would also seriously consider the cornering and braking  [moto].
Only problem is, my bike is not run in yet and the 30min free time at the end of the day is the highlight... would be soooo tempting to just give her a wrist full  8)

Does that mean you won't be fully run in for the 31st ride then?
In anycase I will pick a date next week.

First service will be done so worst of it will be over, in any case it will be a good excuse if you guys burn me ;D

i wouldn't worry about the running in thing. nikasil bores don't need it, besides, have you seen what they do to them on the dyno at the factory!!! oh my lord! [roll]

i did the braking and cornering course years ago and back then they wouldn't let me do the advanced day till i'd done that first. well worth the time spent. [thumbsup]


paul.

Exactly. Rev the absolute tits off it!

 [moto]

Have never spent the time trying to run any of my bikes in.

Like super said flog the guts out of it.it will make for a stronger motor IMO  [thumbsup]

The bores don't, but the rings and gear teeth might be better off if it's run in a little gently, it's hard to say. I'm the sort of person who aims for _long_ ownership, so I'm prepared to live with babying it for a few days at the start even if there's no conclusive proof either way whether it helps in the long run or not. Mind you, that still meant I was due for my 1000km service 3 days after I rode mine off the showroom floor, and was "fully run in" by the end of the first week...

big

frickin frick! that's impressive!  [thumbsup]

that's like me with my previous duke which was my first ever, mind you. rode it out of the shop, and spent the whole arvo/night/day just riding-refueling-riding............
had to park it than and wait a week for a spare date to do the service   

I picked mine up on a Thursday afternoon, and asked to book it in for it's 1000km service while I was there. The service guy flips open his calendar to a page about 2 months away and says "when do you want to bring it in", I say "how about Monday?"... Ended up not being able to have them do it until the Tuesday, so I had to ride my Spada to work on the Monday 'cause I'd already done ~1200km by Sunday afternoon...

But I _know_ people think I'm weird... (I suspect I'll end up being a Moto Guzzi owner one day...)

big

we got a bit off topic here.
so was there anyone in Sydney town who was thinking about doing a course
If so would you like to make a day/date for it.

Me I am still looking at one of the dates here
June 2
June 6

Cheers
Matty...

Would love to Matty but can't really afford it at the moment. Howmuchizzit?

yeah, matty.................tell them the price, son ;)
if it's reasonable, i'd be down for the 06.06

Three Eight Five (385) that is.
And yeah I'm heading for the 6th June atm.

Hmmmmm. As I thought, a bit rich for me at the moment, bloody getting married blah blah blah. [cheeky]

I've wanted to do this for a while, will just have to keep on using my natural talent.  [puke]

For which you are blessed with much....

Did one of those courses years back it really dose help.
All I can say is try not to focus on the speed focus on your posture and lines just be loose the speed will come in time.

A lot of guys are going off and doing super bike schools with no intentions to do track days. Wrong

The only thing they will teach you there are track lines totally different to street lines and also dangerous on the road.

The stay upright class is great you will learn some things that will shock you regarding braking distances mid corner braking and how it can help and line of vision.

 Plus you will have a stack of fun  [thumbsup]

Hey Matty could you PM me the details for the 6th June. I actually have the day off and "might" get a leave pass from the boss.....  [thumbsup]

Could be interested for the Friday although logistics could be an issue (assuming I can get the time off work).

Would you be intending to do the theory session? Is there anything covered there that won't be covered again on the day? I'm asking because it would make it a very late night for me before a very full day on the Friday.

I most likely would do the theory session however it is only an option it is not necessary to do it.

I am sure they would give some sort of catch up briefing on the morning when people arrive.

So which is the one you guys are doing The Advanced I Skills Development Course or
Advanced II Cornering & Braking Course???

Advanced skills I
I think you have to do that before they let you do # II

Yep When you guys finish Skill 1 Il join you for Skills 2 need a bit of a nip and tuck ;D

The theory is pretty good though if you got your bike licence within the last couple of years its much the same stuff they go over in that course. If you have had your licence for a long time it would be of benefit as it alerts you to the old mis-conceptions developed by "experienced" riders. Would recommend it.
The Advanced I course is very infomative and i would suggest you will learn how to get more from your ride. IMO. Most of all its heaps of fun  [moto].
I will sit this one out, I look to have finally convinced my best mate to get a road bike and have committed to doing the same course with him ( if he ever decides on a bike).
Steve.

I've been wanting to do this for ages, so I'm booked for Fri 6th.

Book also will see you there Craigeaux
And hopefully Big T will join us.

Have you guys booked already ???

Matty & Craig I'm in for June 6th. Have the leave pass so just registered......  [thumbsup]  [thumbsup]

G'day guys , ole slow coach here has signed up. I should have done this when I bought the bike.
I'm looking forward to it.

Andy

Bummer i widh i hadnt done it yet sounds like its going to be fun  [bang]

And now we have 4 Monsters for the day........  [thumbsup]

Mattyvas
Craigeaux
Big T
Andy55

Hey Dock come and join us when we all go do the Advanced II course after this one.......  [moto]  [moto]  [moto]  [moto]  [moto]

realy........................ I can come   ;D

Dose this mean your still my friend Big T ???

 I have put the lawn mower away  [cheeky]

No slow coach, everyone runs at there own pace.
I think you are quick enough mate.
Faster only means a quicker reaction to whatever problem you might encounter.

Looking forward to the training day then.
And yeah hope the sky stays clear...

cheers
Matty....

Yep still my friend Dock. No lawn mower required........  [cheeky]

Super is turning into a bit of a soft cock...... He has to "Harden the f...k up" if he wants to hang with the Wild Ones........ [evil]  [evil]

Gee Big T you got such a big heart

Yeh super you heard Big T swallow some concrete and "Harden the f...k up"  [cheeky]

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Geez, that's a bit harsh.

Wild ones! I don't remember wild ones sipping Chai latte's!  [cheeky] ;D


Swallow CONCRETE! I spread ANTI SIEZE on my toast in the morning! [evil]

Is that only during Winter ??? ???
Or all year round...

Lithium I hope  ???

Either that or Copper Cote. [thumbsup]

Same Sh#t different smell  [thumbsup]

And all that bubble and froth on my Chai Latte is Sulphuric acid.......

The "Wild One"....  [coffee]

Learn something new every day, i thought there was a difference between silver and copper colour.

I dared a T.A twenty bucks to chew on the brush from an anti sieze can. He did it, I lost twenty bucks. :-\

same end result you just use the different compounds to avoid diss similar metal effects [thumbsup]

Now you won't be the slowest Andy (just realised we no longer have an angel smiley :( that was my favourite)

Great News Betty.......  [thumbsup]

And then there were 5.......  [evil]

.... then 6

The Boss (Jukie) has finally negotiated the day off, so I have booked her in as well. Do you think the instructors will feel a little ... um ... monstered on the day?

Most probably but at least they know our network works.
Word of mouth is a strong thing, one in many in.....
Should be a Monster of a day...

Great news Betty & Jukie..... Hey you guys interested in doing the Thursday night???? If so and you you need a place to stay down Sydney way (so you don't have to ride home) with a double locked garage to house the babies let me know......... Otherwise will meet up on the day for the ride down....  [thumbsup]

Big T, thank you for the generous offer. We are hoping to attend the Thursday night and are currently weighing up our options.

Ok, after yesterdays ride I am in need of some instruction on riding my baby. I have booked in for friday 6th june, I will have to wait for a reply to see if the course is booked out.
Don

Awesome day! Good to finally put names to faces. The noise from the tail end of the pack when 10+ Monsters were moving up hill was phenomenal! Looking forward to watching the video.

Just did the Advanced 1 course yesterday, not a big turnout  (12) as the weather here's been pretty crap. But the god's smiled on us yesterday and we got good weather.
Learned heaps, gained a lot of my old confidence back, highly recommended.
There was a fair cross section of experience there and the instructors took it all in to account.
Great to have someone follow you around and critique you at the end.

Excellent.
The 6 of us who are going this Friday I know are looking forward to it.

OK, I have just received confirmation I'm in for Friday, I didn't know about the three hour tutorial 6.30 Thursday. Is that an option or mandatory?
Don

Only an option but there are a few going.
Andy
Big T
MattyVas
Craigo

unconfirmed for tutorial
Betty
Jukie

That's great Don that will make 7 Monsters there.
Let's hope the skies clear a little at least.
Would rather do it with some dry patches about.

Geez guys with all of you doing this advanced corse its going to be difficult for me to keep up and get you on film  ???

I guess il have to set the zoom to max  ;D

After watching the national park and mac pass vids a couple of times, I don't think you need to worry about me for the time being Dockstrada.


BTW I think everyone scheduled for attendance on Friday should do a little anti rain dance (just in case).   

Ok so we can just hang at the back i can make the fillllllm look like we are going fast, [moto] then edit the end so we arrive at the same time as the others. [laugh] [laugh] [cheeky]

Just make sure you can see the wet spots Dock....  :o  :o

I've been dancing and editing all day.

No rain, no rain......

Matty you gota do the Hoo Ha Ha Ha Hoo Ha Ha Ha or it aint gona work [thumbsup]

The advanced 1 course ain't about riding fast, it's about riding safe.

After riding with Dock on saturday I think its tounge in cheek! You dont get a d16rr unless you can ride.

When you ride safe you ride faster naturally [moto] new lines for the road lots of room for error, more confidence ride faster and on and on [thumbsup]

I would like to say that I am very jealous of you all - I have to f#$king work and I could really do with the training....

Oh well, next ride you'll find be at the back of the pack (not that there's anything wrong with that of course!)

You can join me... [thumbsup]

As for working, yeah me too, but I will be dry in my orifice and they will be getting soggy bums listening to the instructors dribbling too much.

"Headcheck, blah, blah, blah....killswitch, key, blah, blah, blah....."

 [cheeky] [cheeky]

I've heard they (the instructors) love showing how well they can back there bikes into corners.....
Now that's what I wanna learn......
Along with head check, kill switch, shallow lines.....

Still looking forward to soggy bum on seat time.

Heading off now for the night session.

Could be late.

Will be wet.

In this case I am glad I will not be joining you for a ride [thumbsup]

Hmm something warm would be nice right now [coffee] [cheeky]

Our day was great, learned plenty of things for a top group of instructors.

Highly recommended.

cheers
Matty...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2555008259_65324e9eb2.jpg?v=0)

Oh and the rest of the little set is on my flickr just click below.

Looks like you guys and Gal  had a great day [thumbsup]

what was the best thing you learnt matty im thinking of doing the course in december bazz [thumbsup]

Great day and the highlights for me were:

1. Seeing Jukie aka Julie scrap her boot on a corner. She didn't know her baby would lean over that far....  ;D

2. Matty's Magic tires were giving a 1098S a hurry along on the corners...... Matty was blowing this guy on the corners .....  [moto]

Had a blast and highly recommend the course for one and all.......

Best thing I learn: Ride Posture.... How to position myself correctly and maintain it in the bends and on the straights......

Ooohh and emergency stops..... F....k those Braking Rotors and Race/Street pads stop.......... First ever mini stoppie.....

Sounds like you got your $ worth Big T [thumbsup]

Go Jukie you go getter,  with those pipes of yours you’ll now be able to sneak up and give us a scare [moto] [evil]

And my fuel consumption for the day..... Averaged 11 km per 1 litre........ Yes it is 11 km per 1 litre.....  [bang]  [bang]

But man it was a blast burning that fuel load....  ;D

Only had 3 fuel stops for the day......  [moto]

How did the instructor react with all those monsters on the track at the same time?  :o

Twas a good day and thankfully the rain held off.

There is a lot of things I need to work on (and a couple of mods may be needed). But the big one the instructors kept drumming into me was that I don't use the brakes enough.

Nice photos as usual Matty ... and that monstrous 620 of yours was all over that 1098.

As for Jukie .... well for someone who started the day saying she doesn't like corners, it could be a while before that smile subsides.

A couple of comments were made about the tingling of the aural senses. One of the things they actively encourage is blipping the throttle during down changes .... and I was told that I was not revving it enough on the downshifts.

One of the instructors was riding a Duke 1000 in standard form so he was all over the 7 Dukes.....

But you could here us all out on the track......

And they loved it..... They commented on the Ducati growl all round the track.....

A Monster?

Or what?

i'm confused. ???

Well Big t I'm impressed only three  [clap]
well me and betty fuel up at Berowra just in case but the fuel light  still never turn on  ;D

OOpppsss... A Monster S2R......

Hi All

Thanks you guys for letting me ride with you, and for picking up on my new bike habit [moto]
It was a fantasic and awesome time with no rain  :) , and yes i did my nudie run straight in a nice hot bath  ;D

cheers again [wine]

What did I learn?

1. to keep pressure on the front brake while blipping on down shifts.
2. just how amazing the front brakes are and how they can stop you REAL quick without locking.
3. looking further through corners.
4. most important for me moving my weight off the bike, so I lean but the bike stay more upright in cornering.
5. low speed maneuvering, didn't think my Monster could steer that well going slow so.

Highly recommended for anyone who has been riding for any length of time.   
$385 very well spent.

Go do it.....

Looks like everyone had a great time and learnt something that will make them better and safer riders on the road.  All good.

I am going to see if and when there might be a similar type of training in South Australia.  Would be great to get a couple of local Monster riders together like the Sydney crew to make a day of it.

I am envious with the amount of resources and fellow Ducati Monster owners that get together in Sydney and enjoy a common passion.

It is good to be able to "sort of" join in over the internet.

Thanks Mattyvas for his photos and videos that he gets done so quickly and shares... Gee you got to love the internet.

Cheers


Bret

Bret, you should have a few down your way for the Tourismo I believe.

As for the instructor with the Monster:
- on sign-in he asked why so many monsters
- my reply was 'the real question is why aren't you on ducatimonsterworldwide.org' - and it was apparent from the completely stock bike he had

Another guy asked why so many monsters and I told him about the forum. He said I don't s'pose there is a Hyosung forum - but he was going to have a look anyway. So even outsiders see the value in this community.

Another of the instructors said (from a distance) 'geez that gsxr looks good' then spent the next five minutes ogling the monsters in silent amazement. Gotta love our bikes!

Here ya go Bret,

http://www.stayupright.com.au/dates.htm#sa_courses

Gay All
I had a great day on Friday, I have a lot to practice. How good is it when a crowd of monsters turn out and look as good as they do  :). Great photo's Matty, and thanks for starting the experience off.
Regards
Don Elder

Do you remember the name of the instructor?

Because if it's the same bloke who does the L and P's at Clyde, he was all over mine when I did my licence, another one of the instructors even pointed to my bike and said don't be surprised if my bike is missing by the end of the day. [laugh]

Great bunch of blokes, they really know what they are talking about. ;)

We had
Wayne
Wayne
Terry
Paul the Monster owner.

Yeah, I think it was Wayne. [roll]

Tallish bloke, ex racer, I think.

Yep that's him.

Wayne Clark I think it was .... or as Jukie calls - FANG!

Yeah! [laugh]

He has teeth like he could eat an apple through a tennis racquet. ;)

This is him as a baby  ???

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/2559756381_fb0d176d39.jpg?v=0)

Now, now, he's a great bloke. just cause he got a set of fangs on him.
He gave me great feed back and encouragement all day.

No, no really he's a great bloke. Happy to have him there for us to learn from.

Yeah he was very helpful - he was the one who told me I was not revving enough on the downshifts. In fact he got me to practice it a few times and then he demonstarted further (on my bike) another or 6 or 7 times to make sure I could tell the difference

he just wanted to ride your bike betty [thumbsup]

Nah, I think he just wanted to hear it .... again and again and again .....

Which surprised me because she is such a sweet and innocent little thing.

CD of images, been talking to Big T about the photos taken by the boss man of Stay Upright.
Big T is going to buy it then share it between us, we can just copy it and pass it on.
They got $385 out of each of us, they don't need another $30 each again.

Will let everyone know when it is on the way.

cheers
Matty...

Well done guys. I was gonna suggest we all throw in $5 bucks each on the day but it all ended pretty quickly.

Sounds like we owe you a couple of pots of tea Trev.

The pics are up.........

I have the info to order the DVD so will do so..... Stay tuned...

http://www.stayupright.com.au/images/gallery_advanced_060608/gallery_default.htm

Those photos are pretty sweet. I had an awesome day. Traffic is well boring now.

I would really like to do the Stayupright advance cornering and braking course before Oran shuts down. Not sure when it will get shut, but it can't have long to live.


Alternatively I also spotted this
Oran Park Track Days for ~$145
 (http://www.circuitbreakers.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=28)
  [moto]

I'm up for track days (in d- class). 25 minute runs would be awesome.

Well don't we all look very professional......
Hanging off the sides of bikes, looking into and past corners.......
Managed to get this photo because it opened in window instead of the little pop up frame.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2571913522_a16a4d382f.jpg?v=0)

It all felt so much closer to the road on the day.  [roll]

If you want to borrow a specific image in a larger format, just hover over it and the image name will appear (eg dargle101)

Then manually mangle the image name into this path: http://www.stayupright.com.au/images/gallery_advanced_060608/photos/[your image name here].jpg

Example: http://www.stayupright.com.au/images/gallery_advanced_060608/photos/dargle101.jpg

Hey Craigo,

     that's great, I can't remember if the Boss man said he'd have a CD of everything he shot of each person for $30 or what.
Might email them to find out what the story is. I know Big T is going to get the other CD of that gallery and share the hi res images.
But it's good to have these smaller ones just for the memories.
And you're right it seemed like we were much closer the track than the photos show.

You're all dreamin'.



 ;D

That was you sphincter muscle messing with you ego [laugh]

Jukie was the only one that scraped anything I herd Go Jukie you good thing [moto]

Is this you Jukie

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/2572616288_8dce627b14.jpg?v=0)

photos look great guys and girls. Well done. they were so good I found out when it's on down here (Nov 15th for Vics).

 [thumbsup]

thanks vince for the compliment i which this was me, i have to try a little harder next time

looking @ the pics now i know why they call it stay UPRIGHT course    [evil]

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Good one Melvin  [thumbsup]

Aren't you washing bike(s)........

or getting ready for bar italia to hear the stay UPRIGHT stories? 

Busted me matty, just came up for din din Matty  [thumbsup]

I got a 08 R1 in the garage, I tuched it today, Shhh i even threw my leg over it hmm  ???

What's that?
Where'd she come from.

Maty I cant say the evil  [evil] word its a Y.........amaha ,Mate left it here.

It's only evil if you like it.........

I don't know what you mean, I think I achieved some pretty extreme lean angles

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2574633791_8a34fd8a23.jpg?v=0)

I think he means that perhaps you people did not achieve the same lean angles he did on his superbike school course  [evil]

(Sorry Rob, could not resist!)

Well there's lean and then there's l-l-l-lllleannnnnn............

$$$$$$$$$$$...

Hey the DVD has been ordered and should be here this week. I'll copy the pics and pass it on ......  [moto]

Stay tuned......

Excellent, let me know when it's ready for a 2nd viewing.

I have the DVD and a copy of all the pics.... Giving to Matty tomorrow.

So who's next????? Contact Matty....  [thumbsup]  [moto]

Ooh! Ooh!
Pick me! Pick me!

Well fire me your address on PM.
Or I am coming back up to Newcastle on Sunday again.
Maybe I could meet you at Warriors on the way up?