Step 1: Have a titanium obsessed buddy who needs a project done
Step 2a: Buy stock, tools, dial indicator,s and beer.
Step 2b: Buy Beer... lots of beer
Step 3: only at 10:00pm on a friday night can the festivities start
Step 4: Attempt to use 65 year old lathe with little knowledge on test piece while drinking beer
Step 5: start troubleshooting how to use lathe
Step 6: Drink beer
Step 7: Realize it's 2am and call it quits
Step 8: drink beer
Step 9: sleep
-----Day 2----
Step 10: Eat Breakfast burritos, and grab supplies for dinner
Step 11: Drink Coffee
Step 12: Drink beer
Step 11: start using lathe only to start feeling that project will not get done this weekend
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Step 12: Attempt to clean up and adjust the top-slide
Step 13: Realize you have take apart everything but the head-stock and clean
Step 14: drink beer and Re-assemble lathe
Step 15: say, "one quick pass then we will get dinner going"
Step 16: Drink beer
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Step 16: after several passes realize it's 7:30 and we should start dinner
Step 17: BBQ steak, mash potatoes, cook bacon, saute mushrooms and onions while drinking beer
Step 18: Engorge yourself on meat and taters' and drink beer
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Step 19: Get more beer
Step 20: Grind tool bits
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Step 21: get some pretty decent turns off of piece [thumbsup]
Step 22: Let MrFry try his hand at it
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Steps 23-27: Remount, reface, and return piece to fix MrFry's attempt
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Step 28: Hoot and hollar about great turns you are getting out of lathe
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Step 29: Drink beer
Step 30: call it a night after realizing it's 2:00am again and we are not going to get the piece done
Step 31: Drink beer and watch Monty Python
-----Day 3-----
Step 32: Get McDonalds for breakfast
Step 33: Make more adjustments to lathe, and get very decent (< 3/1,000" out) turns.
Step 34: End up calling it a weekend and see about getting piece done next time.
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all in all - i'd say it was a pretty successful unsuccessful weekend ;D
No wonder it didn't turn out well, you were drinking Stella (shudder)
I think we should rename this thread, "A practical exercise in the consumption of beer."
[laugh]
i want to know what they are making.........other than a mess
It will eventually be a rear axle 17 to 25mm bearing spacer and axle carrier.
Quote from: NAKID on March 16, 2009, 12:41:12 PM
No wonder it didn't turn out well, you were drinking Stella (shudder)
That's exactly what I was gonna say... [laugh] :-X [puke]
Quote from: herm on March 16, 2009, 01:06:08 PM
i want to know what they are making.........other than a mess
You dolt. Isn't it obvious? They're making metal shavings! [drink]
The piece will adapt a complete 25mm rear wheel, cush drive, and caliper carrier onto a 17mm rear axle. That, and a nifty pile of shavings!
I wonder if the pile of money from switching to Geico is interested in seeing the pile of shavings created by those two! [laugh]
Quote from: Duck-Stew on March 16, 2009, 01:31:23 PM
The piece will adapt a complete 25mm rear wheel, cush drive, and caliper carrier onto a 17mm rear axle. That, and a nifty pile of shavings!
I wonder if the pile of money from switching to Geico is interested in seeing the pile of shavings created by those two! [laugh]
and i didn't even get a picture of the bucket we were putting them into! ;D
Looks fun.
Can you choke up on the cutting too a little more? Looks like a lot hanging out of the tool holder if you aren't doing any deep cuts.
mitt
At first, no. The carrier made contact.
Now, yes.
We did a lot of things wrong (mind you, we have no training at all)
The bits I ground had NO back rake, and little side rake.
We had it a tad below center line, rather than above.
Probably too aggressive on the feed rate.
Work too long ~ about 4.5 times the diameter of the stock.
correct those issues, and who knows how good the next attempt will be.
In your situation, you're better below center a few thousandths than at all above.
Grind some clearance on that cutter, put a little radius on the nose and git 'er done!
Quote from: Monsterlover on March 16, 2009, 03:39:39 PM
In your situation, you're better below center a few thousandths than at all above.
Grind some clearance on that cutter, put a little radius on the nose and git 'er done!
I always found a few thousandths below center helped reduce chatter.
I ever tell you about the idiot who sharpened the Joh blocks?
Omg please do!
Who would do that?!?
Axle... [roll]...Right
Making silencers is illegal without a stamp
Quote from: Mother on March 16, 2009, 05:37:37 PM
Axle... [roll]...Right
Making silencers is illegal without a stamp
I have a whole book of stamps. ;D
you saying I can't make mufflers?
Quote from: TiAvenger on March 16, 2009, 06:01:57 PM
I have a whole book of stamps. ;D
you saying I can't make mufflers?
No no, this is a free country mang, do what you want
I told an ATF friend of mine I was going to make a muffler for my HMR
he said
"there are some things you can't tell me"
Quote from: Mother on March 16, 2009, 06:06:29 PM
No no, this is a free country mang, do what you want
I told an ATF friend of mine I was going to make a muffler for my HMR
he said
"there are some things you can't tell me"
I'll take one in .223.
But don't tell him.
Quote from: ducpainter on March 16, 2009, 06:41:08 PM
I'll take one in .223.
But don't tell him.
I dont feel like visiting "pound me in the ass prison"
No silencers for yous guys (the gun kind anyway)
Some hooligan you turned out to be.... [cheeky]
A silencer is merely a device to allow shooting in the winter months when it is too cold to go outside
Quote from: TiAvenger on March 16, 2009, 06:42:58 PM
I dont feel like visiting "pound me in the ass prison"
No silencers for yous guys (the gun kind anyway)
It's "federal pound me in the ass prison". If you're gonna quote the movie, at least get it right...
[laugh]
Quote from: NAKID on March 16, 2009, 06:55:04 PM
It's "federal pound me in the ass prison". If you're gonna quote the movie, at least get it right...
[laugh]
Why don't you go back to your home on whore island?
Wrong movie...
;D
QuoteStep 4: Attempt to use 65 year old lathe with little knowledge on test piece while drinking beer
Great thread - way better than OCC. That looks like a nice old lathe. What make is it? When I was a kid my Dad had one of those small old Craftsman lathes in the garage. I figured out how to work it and used to make cannon barrels and match head rockets while he was at work. Lucky I didn't blow my hand off with the rockets or cut it off on the lathe. But it left me with a life long appreciation for metal working machines.
Quote from: Langanobob on March 17, 2009, 05:17:56 AM
Great thread - way better than OCC. That looks like a nice old lathe. What make is it? When I was a kid my Dad had one of those small old Craftsman lathes in the garage. I figured out how to work it and used to make cannon barrels and match head rockets while he was at work. Lucky I didn't blow my hand off with the rockets or cut it off on the lathe. But it left me with a life long appreciation for metal working machines.
[laugh]
Actually, it's an old Craftsman/Dunlap lathe
Quote from: Monsterlover on March 16, 2009, 03:54:32 PM
Omg please do!
Who would do that?!?
Just some idiot who thought they were lathe tools-it's an easy mistake to make, if you don't know nothin'. ;)
I guess. . .
if you think HSS cutting blanks come in a nice wood box with certificates of calibration [laugh]
Turns out (pun intended) you can polish on a lathe too ;)
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Ohh shiny!
(though it will be lost in the interior of the wheel) [laugh]
My experience with beer & lathes = broken finger trying to pound chuck off with chuck key. >:(
I used to drink when I had to run the vertical turret lathe. It was the only way the thing wouldn't scare me.
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 19, 2009, 08:46:57 PM
I used to drink when I had to run the vertical turret lathe. It was the only way the thing wouldn't scare me.
How big was the table?
Quote from: ducpainter on March 19, 2009, 08:51:55 PM
How big was the table?
I don't recall the exact size but it was probably around 30" across. Old Bullard lathe.
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 19, 2009, 08:59:55 PM
I don't recall the exact size but it was probably around 30" across. Old Bullard lathe.
There was one of those with a 48" table at the fab shop I worked at.
Only one guy ran it...
and he was drunk all the time. ;D
Quote from: ducpainter on March 19, 2009, 09:14:15 PM
There was one of those with a 48" table at the fab shop I worked at.
Only one guy ran it...
and he was drunk all the time. ;D
Thing had no guards-hot chips flew everywhere-I'd walk on them, they'd melt into my boot soles, then I'd have essentially metal skates on my feet while knackered near the heavy running machinery. What fun.
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 19, 2009, 09:18:55 PM
Thing had no guards-hot chips flew everywhere-I'd walk on them, they'd melt into my boot soles, then I'd have essentially metal skates on my feet while knackered near the heavy running machinery. What fun.
where do i sign up?
Sounds awesome to me [evil] [beer]
as a federal employee.... and a machinist... I should be offended by the banter in this thread
if only for the lack of beers in shop...
One of my customers moved into a huge building and two VTL's came with it.
The big one has a 120" table!
It's a monster. You could face the roof off a Volkswagon ;D
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 19, 2009, 09:18:55 PM
Thing had no guards-hot chips flew everywhere-I'd walk on them, they'd melt into my boot soles, then I'd have essentially metal skates on my feet while knackered near the heavy running machinery. What fun.
I'd say it was you...
but it wasn't.
Sounds like twin machines.
Hey Fry!
/gauntlet
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Quote from: TiAvenger on March 20, 2009, 03:44:10 PM
Hey Fry!
/gauntlet
:o
you weren't kidding about the rust!
/it's on!
Quote from: MrFry - Cycles on March 20, 2009, 03:57:07 PM
:o
you weren't kidding about the rust!
/it's on!
So whey you going to come help me rebuild mine? [laugh]
Quote from: TiAvenger on March 20, 2009, 04:15:27 PM
So whey you going to come help me rebuild mine? [laugh]
Are you guys having a tiny tool competition?
Quote from: ducpainter on March 20, 2009, 05:14:43 PM
Are you guys having a tiny tool competition?
This ongoing harrassment of IZ is getting out of hand.
Quote from: hbliam on March 22, 2009, 08:57:06 PM
This ongoing harrassment of IZ is getting out of hand.
[clap]
Quote from: hbliam on March 22, 2009, 08:57:06 PM
This ongoing harrassment of IZ is getting out of hand.
not at all.
its a tradition, going back to the early days of TOB [cheeky]