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I just ordered these to replace some crash damage...  hope they're as sweet as I'd like.
(http://www.emotouk.com/ducati/carbon/monster696/tankpanels_lrg.jpg)

You crashed??!!! Hope nothing too serious and everything/one is okay..

Yeah... sucks.  details here:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=119.60 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=119.60)

Sorry about the crash, guess frisbies are outlaw'd in your hood?


Look cool, how much? where you get em from?

And yes A picture, or two.

RC

The crash happened earlier today... i just put the panels on order.  The name of the place is emotouk.com

I'll post before and after pics up when I get a chance.  I got them sight unseen, and haven't read a review anywhere, so I figure worst case scenario, I take one for the team.

~T

Sorry about your accident, but glad it wasn't worse. Can't wait to see those CF skins on! That should erase any memory of the crash.

So the Crash stuff worked,...

Which ones you got? Do they need replacing now?

I'm gonna pull my bike out this weekend, and do run any, maybe I should grab some...

Thanks Russ 

Yeah... the sliders worked very well.  I had the speedymoto frame sliders and MotovationUSA fork, swingarm, and bar-end sliders.  Only the bar-end slider and the frame slider was damaged.  The others were unscathed.  I'll post up pics when I get a chance.

If it wasn't for those, I'd probably be looking at replacing pegs, mirror, clutch cover, brake lever, and possibly the actual gas tank.  Buy them.

Nice to have all the gear on...post some pic of the damage

Update?

I haven't gotten them in yet, but I'll post pics when they do.  I think they lay them up to order, so it takes 7 days to ship.

~T

death from above!
(http://www.global-b2b-network.com/direct/dbimage/50298298/Frisbee.jpg)

 :o NOOOOO!!!! :o
 [laugh] [laugh]

sorry couldn't help myself...
your story is without a doubt the most unique low-speed drop i've ever heard...
you should nail that little peckerhead with a frisbee from 5 feet away as hard as you can as punishment...

I was thinking about something like this, except with an auto-feeder magazine, and possibly desmo-powered... mounted on some kind of porch-mount turret.

LENT - a Frisbee Launching Machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLrsyy4Pnf4#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

(click on LQ at the bottom)

Neat, but unimpressive I have to say. You can really rip a disc if you know how to throw it right (disc golf anyone?) and that thing is just lobbing.

indeed, a good Discraft disc to the head could knock you out. i think the machine needs improvement.

UPDATE:

Just got an email... they said that they're shipping on Monday.  Of course, I'll post up.

Also, if any of you rubberneckers want to see the crash damage,
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=20729.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=20729.0)

~T

Just showed up via fedex today.  I'll put up some photos.  I'm sure somebody here is going to want to know about comparative weight, so I'll probably throw it up on a digital scale or something for your benefit.

The suspense is killing me.....  ;D  Can't wait to see the pics... [bacon]

jandie

+1

Noob Question , whats with the bacon?

Being a noob myself + language/cultural barrier, I was puzzled by this too - after a while I realized:
bacon is good = all things good must be bacon (sort of)

There's a specific thread http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=606.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=606.0)

this is ridiculous ive been refreshing this page for the last hour waiting for pics
im gonna loose my job over this HURRY UP!!!!!!   ;D

/subscribe

[popcorn]

Want to see some SKIN>.....!!!

okay, pics are way overdue now....  [popcorn]

I am waiting [bang]

dudes, chill.  I'll get to it when I can.

Such a tease!  ;D

Where's my damn fisbee?

i think we should make him a CF frisbee

I think I'd pay pretty decent money for that.  I think a DMF logo CF frisbee would rule.

yeah but i think the name frisbee is licensed... we could call it the DMF Takster Takedown Disk.

My licensing fee for using my handle will be 2 "takedown disks".

Now, the panels:
I obviously haven't had the time to put them on my bike yet.  I'll probably do that later on tonight.  I'll post up when they're on.

right side panel
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/696%20CF%20Tank%20Panels/IMG_0101.jpg)
right side panel different angle
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/696%20CF%20Tank%20Panels/IMG_0102.jpg)
left side panel
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/696%20CF%20Tank%20Panels/IMG_0103.jpg)
Inside:
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/696%20CF%20Tank%20Panels/IMG_0105.jpg)
Right panel weight:
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/696%20CF%20Tank%20Panels/IMG_0108.jpg)
Left panel weight:
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/696%20CF%20Tank%20Panels/IMG_0109.jpg)
Imperfections:
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/696%20CF%20Tank%20Panels/IMG_0110.jpg)

BTW, I SWEAR that the white powder substance that's covering my digital scale is flour.

sadly, I'm serious  ;D

So how much does the stock panels (paint w/o screens weigh?   That would be a nice comparison to see.

I'll be sure to post up when I get the 11 billion screws out... probably tomorrow.

I'm thinking about the white 2-line logo to put on the tank.  Possibly the Ducati Mechanica wings logo too... Not really sure.  Suggestions?

white two lines would be sweet, the 80 s style right? IMHO im not for the mechanica logo on bikes

look nice

imperfections? from factory? dang

Is that a pube stuck there?!  ??? [laugh]

How much does someone pay for something like this?

It was 399 GBP which came out to $450.56 US shipped.

for reference, Commonwealth Motorcycles is selling the "80s" tank skin for $472.90

Yeah, I'm leaning in that direction, but the decal that I found is cut so that it's in 6 pieces, and I don't have a particularly steady hand.

Yeah, I'm not particularly happy with some of the imperfections... There are a few...
-in the clearcoat, there are some noticeable bubbles about the size of the period on a computer keyboard.  Not noticable unless you have your face within a foot of the tank, so I can live with it
-the hooks that hold the cover to the center piece are slightly misshapen... In fact it may take a little dremel work to get it to fit snugly.  I'm thinking that they should have used aluminum clips instead of trying to make that part out of carbon
-there are some swirlmarks in the clearcoat, but nothing that you'd notice if you weren't totally anal
-

I all fairness to the manufacturer, It is very, very difficult to finish the carbon weave with a compound shape like that.  Also when you do carbon it is also very very difficult to get rid of all the pinholes as well. If there is only one or two pin holes in the whole thing, it is done really well.  We do a fair amount of carbon work at my shop and it is difficult stuff to work with.  Our carbon guy is really well skilled in carbon and I have seen good and bad carbon, and I would say that with that shape it is pretty darn good.  If you were so inclined to get rid of the pinholes you could have a painter clear coat them again and they will probably go away.  None the less I think the 80's logo would look awesome on that.

That is Gold [laugh] [laugh] [clap]

Pm eichh. He does awesome vinylwork

Fitment issues galore...

• As I mentioned before, there were some issues with the tabs...  I had to dremel away some CF on those and some of the adhesive that was caked around it so that it would even fit in the slots.  That turned out to be an enormous pain in the ass.  Note to anybody who's reading this:  If you plan on grinding CF, wear a respirator... I think I still taste it.
• The right side went on with very few issues, but the left side was more problematic.  The three drilled holes that are towards the front of the bike which hold the little threaded clips, although drilled with perfect placement, were left too thick.  That's to say that the CF there was too thick to hold the clip effectively.  I had to grind down portions of it so that the clip would stay on, then it took more than a little wiggling with the bolts to actually get seated correctly so that they would thread in right..
• One of the holes near the filler cap was drilled slightly off, which is really unnoticable, but causes the bolt to look slightly off-center.  You'd never notice at a glance though.
• Probably because of the tab issue, there is a tiny gap between the left panel and the center strip.  At its widest, it's about 1mm.  Again, unnoticable without close inspection.
• In order to get the bottom bolt in, It required putting the tank panel under a little bit of tension.  Where the hole lines up naturally is probably 3/8" away from the actual hole that it goes in to.  I'm guessing that this may have something to do with how CF parts are made, but this is not at all my area of expertise.
• The tiny bubbles that I mentioned in a previous post are more visible than I had anticipated.  They are concentrated on the areas with the tightest radius curves, and unfortunately for me, I can see them quite clearly when I'm sitting on the bike.

Overall assesment:
I can't say that I'm TOTALLY thrilled with the quality of the product.  I was hoping that QC would be a little bit better.  Having said that, I got new tank skins for less than the cost of the OEM Ducati part, and from 3 or more feet away, it looks pretty sweet.  I feel like I got my money's worth anyway.  I'm sure that as other manufacturers start making these, QC will get better, and the processes will get better as well.

A surprising phenomenon to me was that the CF panels feel more flexible than the plastic when riding.  I tend to grip the tank with my knees when I ride, and I can feel a little more flex than I'm used to.  It's something that I'll probably get used to and forget about, but it'd definitely there.

Getting a CF tank makes you pretty much want to buy every other CF part ever made.  The front fender and fairing look pretty ridiculous right now.  I'll probably lose the fairing and get a CF fender very shortly.... then rearhugger... then belt covers... argh.

bottom line, knowing now what I didn't know then, I'd have reservations about changing them out, but would probably do it anyway just for the uniqueness factor.



On another note, Thanks El Matador, I'm going to buy my vinyl from eichh.  His work looks good!

Also, Ryanracer, If you guys do CF work, I should send you my old tank panels to make a mold...  Although I'd like to be the only 696/1100 out there with CF tank panels, I'm sure that somebody else will bring it to market and it will become ubiquetous anyway.  May as well be you that makes the money!  Let me know if you're interested.

Great write up! But where are the pics with it on?

MY LUCK SUCKS LIKE A $5 WHORE.

I put the panels on the tank last night, ride to work today, go to my favorite little coffee shop for lunch, find a great parking spot right in front, order the usual, get a seat by the window.  A few minutes later, as I'm admiring the new look of my bike and making mental notes as to what I'd like to mod next, I see a minivan backing up... enter slo-mo.  This odyssey knocks my bike over, and drags it under its bumper for another foot or two, then grinds to a halt.  5 seconds later, I'm out there YELLING at this woman who is STILL ON THE PHONE.  Finally, I get her to pull her van forward to get it the make the beast with two backs OFF OF MY BIKE.

I stand it up, and this is what I see:
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/Minivan%20Suckage/IMG_0113.jpg)
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/Minivan%20Suckage/IMG_0114.jpg)
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/Minivan%20Suckage/IMG_0116.jpg)

Probably not the photos that you guys wanted to see so...
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/Tak4364/Minivan%20Suckage/IMG_0117.jpg)


The other side is fine.... FML

oh man. i'm soooo sorry.

i can't believe it.

tell me she has GREAT INSURANCE.

I'm pretty much in shock
She has the same insurance carrier that I do.  I have all of her info.  Hopefully it'll pan out.

oh man!
dude that is completely f*ucked.
i am so sorry.

Damn, Takster! Is the carbon cracked all the way through or just scuffed? Maybe paint it white if it's not cracked through. And is the kickstand damaged at the mount on the engine case or something? I can't tell. Wow, such luck! Minivans... [bang] At least you could ride it home. Sorry that had to happen to you. People are just negligent as hell these days, this morning I saw a woman in a Slaab convertible drive right over a 10" curbed median and pretty much destroy the underside of her car, dragging aero panels and whatever else down the street. Didn't even stop. Don't be discouraged, hope you get the damage fixed soon.

Sorry top hear about the accident.
I was looking forward to pictures--but not those.

Same thing happened to me on my 999R except I was still sitting on it...

Maybe the ladie's insurance will cover you for some better tank panels. The wet lay carbon fiber tank covers are not the best and will spider crack like that.
It looks like there may be some fiberglass underneath as well. It will be easy to paint it white--but nearly impossible to return back to original natural condition .

We are still waiting for our supplier to make a pre-preg version.

-M

wow! un-fu*king-believable!

anyway, i'm sure you'll get everything fixed, but this time with nothing out of your pocket!

anyway back to the looks of the bike. your right, the headlight faring and the front fender look ridiculous now. i was thinking the carbon fiber tanks might have been a mistake. but the more i think about it... if you get a carbon fiber front fender, rear fender, slip-on exhausts, exhaust heat guard, silencer heat guards, headlight cover, instrument panel, front sprocket cover, & timing belt cover and if you need it a carbon headlight faring... well that thing would look crazy! an all carbon fibered out 696. i know it would cost out the ass, but you'd have a one of a kind 696 then! oh, and i'd go with all dp carbon. that way you know you'd be getting good fitting, quality stuff!!

DUDE!!!!!!!!!

You're going to have to leave your bike in the garage!!!

My god you have some bad luck!

Yes, wet lay carbon is pretty much always going to be a little off.   

I would definitely have an insurance adjuster look at the engine casing.  Looks like mirror, lever, bar end, tank cover, kickstand and kickstand mount have to be replaced. Oh and the exhaust.

Is there more exhaust damage?

It's a case of the cursed Ducati!!!! Urban legend...I think not...  [cheeky]

All I've got to say is that if you hear it reving on it's own in the garage late at night and its' dents start to fix themselves to run like hell!!!

....that would make it kin to Christine:

(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7270/christine11dh3.jpg)

Crappy luck man. I'm so sorry to hear that. The CF tank covers look(ed) nice. Anything else happens it's time to find a new bike (minus the curse of course).  [cheeky]

priceless.   UFB is right.  I'm sorry for you dude, I can't even imagine the frustration.

Man, sorry to hear this. At least you were out there to stop her before she drove off.

Damn man..  [bang]  Time to sell the bike and get you an 1100S.

Now you can get the OEM tank panels since it sounds as if you weren't too impressed with the carbon ones.  Make sure her insurance replaces everything that is scratched.  Don't settle for anything less.  Nothing should be repaired, everything replaced.  Once you ensure she will suffer from high rates for the next 3 years,  [drink] [drink]

Takster!! Dude.. I agree with 1313, to much history w/ the bike now... Sorry to hear that man... (still got goosebumps)... man.. that sucks.. at least there is insurance this time...

Sorry to hear about the dingbat running your bike over.  Make sure the insurance adjuster looks at the bike at a bike shop who is used to dealing with adjusters.  If the adjuster is used to cars you will get screwed.  Do make sure the case is not cracked at the sidestand mounting.

Dude, that sucks! Hope things start to look up from this point on. For what it's worth, the CF tank covers did look nice! [thumbsup]

 Nothing more dangerous than a c**t on a cell phone. [bang]

UPDATE: 

Thanks everybody for commiserating with me.  I really appreciate the support.

The Insurance adjuster is coming to look at my bike on tuesday.  It's my understanding that the way it works in MA typically, is that the adjuster first assesses external damage, then I take it to a shop and they give me a detailed breakdown of the cost of repair, then that figure gets put in front of the adjuster.  I've never been in an accident which involved insurance companies before, so I'm just taking their word on that one.

in a previous post, when I had just put the CF tank panels on, I said that if I knew what I know now, I'd do it again.  It looks like fate has actually made that answer quite relevant.  I got an email today from the manufacturer (who I referred to this thread,) and they offered to sell me a replacement CF left panel for 1/2 the price of the set... current exchange rates make this about $240.  Let's see how that works out.

Ever since the minivan incident, my check engine light comes on for short stints.  Are those codes stored (ie, can they be looked up even when the light is off?) or does it have to be on for that to be looked into?  Also, I'm trying to imagine what could have happened in a simple knockdown that would cause that to happen.  The only real idea that comes to mind is that a connector for the O2 sensor became intermittent or something.  Any other ideas would be appreciated.... the bike still runs normally, and there are no leaking fluids (as far as I can tell)

to those people who think I should get an 1100S, As tempting as that is, I think that wouldn't be the greatest idea for a few reasons.  First, this is my first bike, and I've only been riding it for 1/2 of a season or so.  I think going to an 1100 would be a bit premature for me.  Secondly, one of the major factors that brought me to a 696 is the low seat height.  I'm about 5'5", and my inseam is about 28".  Even with a modified seat, I can barely get toes on the ground.  I sat on a friend's S4RS today, and I couldn't even get it off the sidestand.  I know the 1100S  has a pretty low seat as well, but it's still higher than the 696, so I'm not really sure I can deal with that for now.  Oh, and there's that question of where will I come up with the extra $.  (small details...)

For right now the idea that I have in my head is this:  fix my bike and ride it.  The list of stuff that NEEDS to be replaced is pretty short.  Side panel, bar ends, mirrors, and kickstand.  Outside of that, what I can probably get them to pay for (because of legitimate damage) includes the rearset "wings," pegs, and exhaust.  If I'm lucky, I think I can work out a situation where I replace everything that's broken and have some cash left over for extras... best case scenario, carbon termis and a CF front fender.  If I do those mods and remove the front fairing and seat caul (already gone from the "frisbee incident"), I'm well on my way to the 696 "CF Edition" that was my original vision.  [moto]

As frustrating as this experience has been, I can't bring myself to get rid of the bike.  Even with the bad luck and frustration, it's been the most fun I've ever had with my clothes on, and I can't give up on her just yet.  I think I might call a priest and have him perform an exorcism, or possibly perform some kind of ritual sacrifice, but I can't give up.  During a moment of weakness last night, I asked myself if the universe was telling me I shouldn't ride, but the real answer came to me while I was riding today: It's just shitty luck.

I'll post another update when I talk to the adjuster.  Wish me luck with that.

~Tak

Tak,

Stick with the 696, I think you'll be glad you did.  You've been through some tough times together already.  When she's all shiny and full of carbon fibre, you two can reminisce about the "good ol' days", and how you loved her even when no one else did.  In time she'll get over her fear of frisbees and reversing mini vans.

I had a crash just recently and am in between having the adjuster see the bike, and having the dealer see it.  The adjuster pointed to everything that was even scratched, and added it to the list.  The dealer wants me to leave the bike with them for 'a few days' so they can do the estimate.  sucks, but I'm gonna have to do it.

Best of luck to you,

Dan

Takster, I too am a short asian fellow (5'5".5 - yes the .5 matters  ;)), I sat down on a 1100s this morning and yes it is a bit taller than the 696, but I think you'll get used to it.  Other than the DP "thin" seat, the rep also told me that the Ohlins Rear Shock (in the S model) can be dropped down 1/2 inch - however, I don't really know what that will do to the riding experience (if it would even make a difference).  My vote is for you to go get one, but I also appreciate your love for the 696 - I sure love mine!


Good on you man!!!


Good luck brotha!

jandie

Totally sucks dude.

At least you're seeing the possible silver lining in this, i.e., new Termis, CF bling, etc., etc.

With labor and parts, don't be surprised if you're offered a total loss from the insurance. Check your wheels, frame and all the hard to get spots for any scratches. GL.  [thumbsup]

Oh yeah, keep her.  ;)

No matter how minor the cosmetic damage, you get money for a new part.  That is the way it is with motorcycles.  Of course, if the bike is getting to the point of total loss and you want to keep it with clear title you could ask the adjuster to overlook some non critical damage.

If the light has come on frequently for the same reason a code will be stored.  In case a code is not stored, noting the conditions that cause the light to go on will help the tech fix the problem.  Do tell the adjuster the light did not come on before the incident.

Unfortunately, I have dealt with a lot of insurance adjusters.  Remember, you can argue, debate, call their superiors, etc...  Some of the insurance adjusters are good, some are bad.  Either way, don't think you have to take the quote they give you.  Take your bike to various dealers and have them assess the damage, parts and labor.  Take the highest bidder to the insurance company and throw the others away.  I have never been screwed by an insurance company (besides the money I pay them for coverage).  That being said, I have had to be pesky, a dick, threatening, argumentative, etc...  Call them 20 times a day until you get what you feel is a fair quote.  Go in with your guns drawn and don't take any shit.  Remember, this is an inconvenience to you.  [thumbsup]

Just wait til you have kids.  I am guessing you don't yet.  As a parent you will develop a sort of "kid ESP".  This past weekend on Easter Sunday we were on the way home from my brother's house.  We were in the minivan and probably 1/4 mile from my house.  I noticed several teenagers near the road and my immediate reaction before thinking about it was to watch them very very carefully and I slowed down to about 20 mph.  As we get close I see one of the boys reaching into something behind his back and I quickly rolled the window down, pointed at him and yelled out the window, "Don't even think about it".  Of course he starts laughing and puts the egg back in the bag but nonetheless had I not seen it coming I would have been pissed.  I wouldn't call the frisbee thing bad parenting unless the kid was older then 6 or so.  I have found that kids up to age 6 will quite often do things that are dangerous no matter how good your parenting skills are.  They don't consider consequences in the same way as adults.  Once they reach 7 or above they begin to develop SOME common sense and above 8 or 9 I would definitely blame the parents.  If I ever caught my kids throwing stuff at a moto/car they would remember that day for the rest of their lives. 

The woman thing was also out of your control.  I do not like the idea of taking the cell phones away while driving but I definitely think that people who get in accidents due to lack of attention caused by use of electronic devices should be ticketed harder.  I for one can drive safely while talking on the cell phone but that is b/c the conversation is a distant 2nd priority to the driving that I am doing.  I have been cut off so many times by people _(women) talking on their phones and they don't even realize they are doing it.  Really grinds my gears lol.

Sucks about the bike hope the insurance works out in your favor.   

Tak,

Fix her and have the first all "CF 696".

I love mine, just got off with a temp outside at +6, did about 3 hours, wanted to do more but hands were cold.

Keep us you to date to progress.

Chow Rusty

I just spoke to the adjuster today as he gave my bike a pretty detailed look-over.  Doesn't look like he's going to do me any favors, but I'll get my money back for the aftermarket stuff.  I'll update again when I get my dealer quote.

Takster,

I had insurance guys try to scam me hard on my bike when a lady hit me.

every knick, scratch, dent, chip has to be fixed. Don't just tell yourself "oh, i'll live with that scratch, or that chip" get EVERYTHING replaced, or demand it. They are trying to pay you as little as possible.

Everything that was scratched on your previous crash, fix. There are probably scratches on TOP of the scratches that were there already. Get your bike in NEW condition. Tell the dealer about the engine code light coming on and off. It could be a sensor, or it could be a problem that developed. Either way, like I said, get EVERYTHING checked and replaced.

Remember, the dealer is on your side, if you tell them: "Fix EVERYTHING", you can be pretty sure that they will do just that... more $$$ for them, and more  ;D for you.

So I take it these didn't come with the little wire mesh grilles? :-\

Yup, no wire mesh grilles.  Be careful when you pull the stock ones out of the original skin... I snapped a plastic clip on both sides.  Seems to stay put just fine when riding though.

Hey man, If you still have your stock panels, I'll take em off your hands. I want to eventually make some of these myself.

Cheers  [beer]

Sorry, been meaning to get back to you... I want to send them out to you, but I'm waiting for all of the dust to settle on the insurance situation before I do.  There's a possibility that I may end up running the cracked stock skin until my replacement carbon one comes in.  I'll keep you updated.

~T

Sounds good  [thumbsup]

Thanks

Which stock one was cracked? I thought it was the brake side that got jacked up by the frisbee incident, and the left from the minivan... curious because I have a cracked left and am looking for a replacement.

Currently riding around with none on... it actually sounds a lot better this way. [laugh]

That's absolutely correct.  The left one is intact.  I don't think I'm looking to sell it for right now.  I've got plans to send them out to people to mold, then, I'm hoping that I can just slap them on if I do a track school or something.  good luck!

Any news from your adjuster? Are you going carbon again or back to stock skins? Looking forward to seeing the bike fixed and your luck to turn the right way.

Thanks Ryan,

Yes, I'm planning on replacing the carbon panel.  The reason for this is that they're willing to sell me the single panel for half price.  The ducati part (for half of the stock skin) is still FAR more than the price of the carbon.

I just got some news yesterday.  I spoke with the dealer, who's had my bike for almost two weeks, and they just added a couple of items to the adjuster's original figure.  I'm going to call the adjuster today to make sure all of that stuff works out.

BTW, I feel like I got scammed a little bit.  Please offer opinions:

these are the three possible scenarios that the dealer laid out for me:
-They "negotiate" with the insurance company for me to "maximize" my return and the dealer does 100% of the work
-They "negotiate" with the ins Co. and charge me 20% of the total return and they charge me for any work they do as if I walked in off the street.
-They don't negotiate and charge me $90 for the privelege of holding my bike for two weeks and esentially saying "yup, that's broken."

Ugg... that does sound kindof crappy from the dealer.  There may be laws or policies that vary from state to state, and ins co to ins co, but as far as I would be concerned, the insurance money is ALL yours to spend how and where you see fit on parts and labor or just pocket in compensation for the depreciation of your bike.  Out of ignorance with the process on my R6 I took a deal similar to your option 1.  The dealer took all the money, did all the work, kept all of my rashed parts, and told me that's the way things were supposed to work.  And I didn't care too much because I was basically coming out even, or even slightly ahead because I knew at least enough to say "hey some aftermarket CF pipes are going to cost the same price as a stock can, lets go with that instead," but I still had to come up with that myself.  I didn't learn the difference between what I got and a great dealer/ins co interaction until talking with other people a few months later. 

A great dealer will look at your money and help you figure out what stuff can be upgraded and what stuff can be lived with and hope that you buy some or all parts and labor from them, and if not, oh well, hope to see you in for service or for your next bike someday.  Well I could have easily replaced the rashed bodywork and some other small parts on my own and saved a few hours of labor costs, or lived with a scuff on the bottom of a footpeg and pocketed that money.  Some of it I would probably had the dealer do anyway (if I remember correctly, the swingarm was scratched and replaced.)  They replaced anything else stock with stock without asking.  Whereas if I had any idea, I would have spent the same or less on aftermarket stuff like levers, rearsets, etc and done some of it myself.  And also, unless the ins co is "buying" your rashed parts as part of the settlement, they should be yours too.  My front cowl had some very light scratches in the paint, that got replaced, and later I saw it up on their used parts wall for like $300.  I pretty sure they weren't doing me any favors to "dispose of" that front cowl for me.

Depending on the total payout, what's actually damaged and other factors, option 3 would be the only thing I'd consider fair, as they probably did do an hours worth of labor for a crash assessment.  But that too should also be paid for by the ins. co as part of your settlement.

i'd be so pissed if I saw one of my own rashed parts for sale... the least they could do is give you a cut.

I opted for option #3.  I'm going to have to buy some Ducati OEM parts from them (or a DMF sponsor) to get her back up and running, but other than that, I really have no intention of giving them more of my business.  As far as the "estimate cost,"  I'm going to have to eat that.  The insurance company will have no part of it.

So, for the 2 weeks that my bike has been at the shop, I get an extra $200 out of the insurance company.  I think I'd rather have been riding.

As far as all the other damage, I'm replacing with aftermarket stuff.  Yeah, I'm shelling out some cash above and beyond what I'm getting back from insurance, but I'll have some sweet mods to post up in a few weeks.

Back to the thread... I just re-bought the left-side CF tank panel.  I'm hoping that the build quality is as good as the right side.  The left one out of the last batch (the one that got mangled) is sort of questionable QC-wise.  I'll post up in "7-10 days"... or if the delivery of the original set is any indication, 2-3 weeks.