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2008 & 2009 MODEL DEMO DAY!
SATURDAY MARCH 21ST
Ducati Dallas location
11:00 am - 5:00 pm
 
Test Ride! BBQ! and Racing!
 
2009 Models available to test ride
1100s Multistrada
1100s Monster
 696 Monster
1198 Superbike
 
2008 Models available to test ride
GT 1000
1100 Hypermotard
 

and don't forget, lee harvey's has rockers vs. mods going on from 1-7pm also (off akard just south of dallas...about 5 minutes from AMS)

What racing? The only races are the AMA show at Fontana. I'd concentrate on the BBQ and test rides. They should have had this next weekend so they could show the Valencia World SBK races. [thumbsup]

so who's going to Rockers n Mods?  E and I will be at Lee's starting at 1, maybe shortly before.

Me Stuart and Jweave would be there too... Not sure what time!  :-X

we'll be on the cruiser but I'll sneak a Duc shirt either on me or her. 

and I was just going to text you to tell you to ride together in your Duc... wtf..?  ;D

call in the AM and we'll meet up, if you can go that is  :-X

OMW!!!

Cool demo day at AMS (per their usual).   Must have been 20 - 25 bikes and riders when we left at 2.  Lots going on downtwon today with Rockers vs. Mods... motorbikes all over the place  :o 

Great day to be out and about   [thumbsup]

spoke to Dax just now and he said there was some kind of accident, car skidded in front of AMS and hit 3 bikes parked in the front.... anyone has more details?

i left AMS 45 min ago that must happened 10 min after i left SUCKS!!

More details later!

 :-[

I hope no one was hurt...this stinks

1098R, Marty's totalled (less than 200 miles)
999s, Scott's....waiting to see
FJR 1300, Jim's totalled (my friend in the market for a Duc)
Motard, rim scratched not sure if more was wrong at the time

Truck going eastbound on Industrial made a u-turn in front of a Sebring and plowed his side. Sebring skidded almost 200 feet into parked bikes at AMS possibly injuring two people. One lady, first day in Texas (moved from Tuczon) was hurt and carted in an ambulance and another guy was limping but refused treatment.  At least three other people jumped out of the way just-in-time.

I was at the Scooter rally with Ms. E, two friends on the other cruiser and Rich when I got the call so Rich, myself and Ms. E. went there (Jim was pretty upset).......what a MESS! I've always known that location was dangerous and today proves it. I hope everyone is alright. Rich will post pics later as he had the camera and took pics.

Ahhh crap that sucks man. Tell Jim I'm sorry to hear about his FJR. We were just chatting about it the other night in the parking lot at Blue Mesa.

 :o  glad to hear everyone was ok for the most part, hope the lady wasn't too badly hurt...

will do, he seems ok considering his blue book is $9k plus accessories.  If Dairyland doesn't hem and haw he'll have enough for an ST4/3 and a Monster play bike....per his words.

Glad to hear nobody was severely injured.  I hope the respective insurance companies treat these riders right.  I'd like to hear some feedback on these claims.

Dax - sounds like you'll be in Ducati searching heaven with the loss of the FJR.

And now a moment of silence for the loss of our dear purple friend.  :'(

Glad to hear that it wasn't worse than it was.

Bikes are just bikes (no matter how much we love them); they will make more...

Just hope the car driver had insurance. In this town... probably not. :P Although, Maria and others have benefitted in their coverage by being hit by uninsured low lifes. Their policies kicked in extra $$$ and coverage if hit my said low lifes. Still doesn't make it right. Makes me glad I spent the whole day busting my a@@ doing spring yard work at home instead of checking out AMS...  Sorry for those who got hurt and lost expensive bikes. Reminds me of the nightmare at the Dubliner when the drunk crashed into it being chased be the cops. Could have been a $100K worth of bikes out front when that happened. Luckily not.

Film at 11! [puke]

http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?p=584058#post584058 (http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?p=584058#post584058)

Oh my,

I just got back from the mountains and picked up my Bike from Stuart's! We both talked about not being able to go today. My yellow would have been in the mess if I got back a day earlier as planned.

I wonder if Marty can buy my 07 Ron Fellows now with the insurance money ;-). Last weekend he saw it for the first time and commented if he hand'nt just purchased the 1098R my Vette would be in his garage.

We will be ridding out to the events tomorrow.

WOW!!!  :o What a mess. I'd be heart broken to see all those bikes on the ground like that. I was actually going to go to that demo day, but my wife made me go to a bday party with her for my son's friend. I guess I'm glad to have missed it.

I'm glad nobody got too hurt.

OH....those poor bikes.... [roll]

sickening....

I needed to buy a new arai helmet for g/f so we drove together and arrived around 5.10pm.. I saw the 1098R being loaded up on the truck and the FJZ parked in front of the door... Scott's bike was at the back of the repair shop and seemed "somewhat" easily fixable... I pray that the young lady is fine and hope AMS recovers from this..

I ended up meeting Dax later in the evening and we both agreed that they really need to put some poles or something like that in the front of the shop, it's pretty insane what happened.... In any case, I'm glad I didn't end up going with my cigar buddies there as we would have certainly been right in the middle of all this smoking our cigars...

Saw the pics in the other forum, no words to describe the sentiment...!

I'll surely be helping him find a new ride.

BTW, there was no proof the car had any insurance, at least on the scene.  Lets hope he has some. 

I can't believe he got me to smile in that pic - the girl just had a bruised leg was the report from the hospital thank God - could have been impaled with the 1098R faring spar sticking out of my top case - overall it could have been a LOT worse.

Am i alone in thinking that the penalty for driving without without insurance should be equally as severe as driving drunk?  These uninsured pricks get my blood boiling.  If you can't afford insurance take the f*cking bus. 

first of all they should raise the $25K State limit to $100/300K..

second of all imho if you're uninsured and cause an accident you should be publicly executed and broadcasted in PPV with the proceeds going to the victim/victim's family!!

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So glad the human damage was minimal, good luck with the insurance and replacements  [moto]

Hey Jim,

Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear about your troubles yesterday, but at least your safe and you'll have a great story out of the whole ordeal. Maybe a ducati too!

 [thumbsup]

jim,

good to meet you; wish the circumstances would have been different.  i hope everything is worked out shortly with your insurance adjuster to your satisfaction, and you have a replacement bike or two very soon.

here are the pictures i took yesterday:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/franzen/sets/72157615774820708/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/franzen/sets/72157615774820708/)
hopefully there are some in there that are useful to you.

Yet another reason that I don't go to any more AMS "parties". Wow, this takes "bummer" to another level. Damn glad no one got seriuosly hurt.  [thumbsup] It could have been real bad. 

Man, that just plain sucks.  Alan and I left an hour before this happened; our bikes were parked right in that area.  In fact, Alan rode that white Multistrada in the middle that somehow avoided the caranage.

There were so many people miling around their bikes - at least twenty parked all the way down Industrial... Thank God this wasn't worse.  Makes me sick even thinking about it.

Wow.  So you are blaming AMS for some idiots that dont know how to drive?  Thats kind of a weird statement. 

just a guess, but he's probably referring more to the "area" that AMS is located in...  industrial blvd. is not exactly a choice place to be cruising along or hanging out by... just a guess here but i'm thinking the percentage of uninsured/under-insured is considerable higher in that stretch.  it's not exactly uptown.

though, while we're talking about this...whenever i'm at AMS and somebody gets ready to take off on a bike...and they have to do that walk backwards out into industrial blvd., with cars flying by at 60+...i tend to hold my breath for a second, hoping that i'm not about to see someone get slammed with a car ten feet in front of me.  it's definitely not an optimal setup safety-wise; what seems to happen a lot is cars/trucks parked to the south of the bikes obstruct the view of the bikes from cars traveling northbound on industrial; giving both parties little reaction time.  just my 2cp

This may end up taking awhile to sort out with the insurance - the driver of the truck who started it isn't the one on the policy - truck is insured but Fernando (the driver) isn't - wish i could have recorded the conversation with the claims person - was actually kind of funny trying to explain the situation - it's been 20 minutes on the phone already and I'm just getting to my bike info

No way, just a stupid joke on my part. Sorry about the confusion. Should have thrown in a laughing or smiley head. Reason #3,421 why emails and such get misconstrued. :P

Having spent a good portion of my life working at the Crowley Courthouse I can indeed testify to the bad neighborhood and bad drivers. Staying late on weeknights and working weekends definitely deserved combat pay.

I agree with Rich on the location and the number of "potential" uninsured drivers there.  Either way they have NO damn business driving 60mph down that stretch.  I also wish Jeff would pave this parking in front of the store.  Every time I go I pick up no less than two to three nails along with numerous bolts, plus driving out on that pebble sucks too when you're behind somebody whose wheel slips and sprays you.................you know who you are. >:(

I love the store setup and everyone there but we need parking lot poles, like the ones they use on Bourbon to shut down the street, and a HUGE flashing yellow light 100 feet before AMS.  just saying.

Parking lot poles wouldn't be wise.  It'd eat up parking spots for customers coming in cars (i.e. new buyers) and for those needing space to load trailers/trucks.  Plus for those that park their bikes there would have to dodge those while backing out into traffic.

I know Jeff wanted to put up a bigger AMS sign, but due to some city issues with that electricity pole he can't.  So the parking poles might not even be within their options

Just my $0.02

I didn't mean to imply that.  If you really think I did... well that's on you.   [coffee]

Wow! ...really hate to see this- Just saw Marty's 1098r at AMSA a few weeks ago  :P Glad no one was really hurt  [thumbsup]

+1

working.......you mean serving time!!

i dont think there is a whole lot jeff can do about parking,etc. around there. probably the smartest thing would be for us to park across the street in that lot or talk them into doing more of their stuff in alvarado. maybe not race watches but at least demo's. it much funner to shoot down 917 to 2738. go down a ways then turn around and come back. is the young lady going to be fine or is the hospital just saying that because if she has to have some form of back surgery they never have to stop having them.

Serving time might actually have been a better job. :P

at the very least the City should help with something.  Maybe make it a two-lane road or something.  shit, they want to revitalize that area and crap like this isn't going to help at all.

I heard the breakfast is pretty good

and the flip flops.  I'll bet Fastwin still has some left over he uses while cleaning his stable of iron ponies.

It's not. The hold over cells were kept so cold that the inmates would wrap their arms in toilet paper to keep warm. The bolonga sandwiches and bug juice drinks were to die for I'm sure. :P Jail: it sucks, it's supposed to.

I can think of better punishment for some of those inmates.
you know, public lashings, testicular removal in public for child molesters.........blah blah blah blah.

hey I'm with you on this one.... like I said .. make it PPV and charge $100 to watch the execution... shit I'd even pay $20/day for live streaming of the torturing of the pedo

Sorry but the "Area is shitty" and that was the reason for the accident doesnt make any sence [popcorn] Accidents like that happens all the time everywhere from Preston to Oak CLif and White Rock lake to FortWorth... You cant blame the location because this dumbass did a u-turn...

The other day a car run over a house in Plano.... that must be a really shitty area... right?



Jeff Cant do much about it City regulations are so F-up around there.... He cant even put a  good billboard over his Shop and you talking about poles on the parking area... [popcorn]

good to hear that the city of dallas has their priorities straight.

I think Chris' idea of hosting race watch parties and demo rides at AMS-Alvarado is an excellent short term solution.  A Saturday ride out to Alvarado raises the blood pressure a lot less than the Cuisine Art blender that is downtown on any given day.

But long-term, an encouraging sign for the future of AMS-Dallas is just to their North at the corner of Market Center Blvd and Oak Lawn Avenue.  Has anyone else noticed the high-end, three story condo complex under construction on the southeast corner of that intersection?  Looks like it should be open by this Fall.

That area where AMS is now is prime property for the urban revitalization/reclamation that has been going on down there for quite a while.  The Trinity River project will help speed things along too.  So I imagine over the next 5 or six years those vacant buildings and, how shall I say... less than desirable businesses will be gone. 

This speculation is obviously no solace for everyone involved in Saturday's melee - nor is it intended to be (see my previous post for that) -  but big changes should be sweeping through that downtown area soon.  In the meantime, AMS-Alvarado for group events could be better utilized.

maybe now they will reconsider?

Just got off the phone with the truck's insurance company - not the driver of the truck but the company that insured the truck - they haven't accepted liability yet - turns out the drive may not have been covered because the owner of the truck had a restricted named driver policy - this is turning into a f'ing nightmare and I can't get anybody to tell me how much I'm going to get for my bike.

maybe its time to lawyer up...

1-800-THE-DOGS

In all seriousness, it sucks that they may not even accept liability for the accident... its pretty obvious who was at fault.

Huh? Who's not accepting responsibility?!?

The truck was liable for making an unsafe turn, & the car seems liable for traveling at an unsafe speed. Those are the only people who would have any liability...

according to the latest report, the driver of the truck was not the insured so the insurance company is trying to say they are not going to pay.  don't quote me on this but it looks like claims will have to be made on their own bike insurance and then the respective company will pursue the idiots in the cars.

The driver of the truck is not insured - the truck is insured - something to do with where the driver resides and whether he was  authorized to be driving the truck - I'm letting my insurance company sort it out - considering the policy expired the day after the accident they are most likely looking for any way out - by the way its Untied Auto - stay away from them!

i am unshocked that i've never heard of them...   sorry to hear about all the troubles man, hopefully it'll be sorted out sooner rather than later.

Wow that was close on the insurance expiration. Hopefully you'll get your moneys worth out of that policy without too much more hassle. So enough of the insurance crap. Lets talk about what you'll be replacing the FJR with.   ;D  Any plan yet?

his next bike is red  ;D 
that's all I will say

was gonna wait till he posted but FRISCO must be polishing his new toy  [thumbsup]
count 6 Ducs in the area now.

ahhh sweeeeet. can't wait to see/hear it.  [thumbsup]

Congrats Jim.

what the heck is it.

Yeah, all the talk yet no pics....

Post em up dude [thumbsup]

Jim! Way to go dude! I know that for a while now you've wanted one but were really satisfied with the F bike. Welcome to Ducville man! Not to say that you haven't already part of the group but to the onwners group. I can't wait to ride with you guys! Now all we need to do is to get Dax's other friend on one....uh, brain fart here, uh,....Dang  [bang] ...shit, the commercial producer guy...ok fill name in here___________.

Welcome! [bang]

Joaquin.

Not gonna happen...

yeah, Joaquin will never own a sportbike.  the Slovoch sees him all the time and we've both harrassed him at the same time to no avail

oh hell, tired of waiting on him to log on so here's the spoiler...................looks like this but with 19 miles on it.....lucky bastard got ONE HELL'F'A deal.  Congrats Jim
(http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2006models/2006-Ducati-ST3a-small.jpg)

now, does anyone have an update on Patrick's 1098R?

Mucho Nice [thumbsup]

Congratz, Jim [clap]

Svoloch got a 1098R!!!  :o

Did you mean Marty?

way to start rumors.  not the Slovoch, I meant to say Marty.  [bang]

What country are you from?!? :P

well, I live here and am a citizen so from the good'ole US of A.

We've been infiltrated ;D

you have.  Jesus, me, Carlos and so many others yet to come.

Now I see why Jim wouldn't ride RED at the 1st Demo day/Race watch/Burger bash. My heart leaps for joy to see another RED amongst us!!! [bow_down] (Key Ren and Stimpy theme song here...Happy Happy Joy Joy!)

Jim you couldn't have chosen a better species. Damn son and with only 19 miles on it! Sheeeeeeoowwt!! Schweet!  [thumbsup]  [clap]

We need more infidel combatants!...er, uh, as in we here are the infidels and you are the combatants to fight against uh?? No, we fight for you for...er, uh. Ok that didn't go anywhere..... :P peeuuie what stinks in here???? bad joke bad...bad just bad...ok move along nothing to read here  [leo].... "Barnee Phife, 2008"

I'll have to get some pics posted here soon - brand new 2006 (OK it did have 19 miles on it) - found it in Houston - verified their story about a VERY rich man who bought it for either his wife or for her to ride with hinm and she didn't like it.  When I took it for a test ride the dealer was right up the street where it was originally purchased so why not stop in and ask right?  They said the guy came in with a driver and a Rolls - had it delivered to his ranch with 3 climate controlled ponds out front with different types of fish in them - one is kept at like 38 degrees or something with some Alaskan fish swimming (imagine the cost of keeping a pond at 38 degrees in Houston in the summer!)  He has a garage (more like a glass showroom for his toys - Lambo's, ferrari's, etc.) so the Duc was sitting for 2 1/2 years - has a battery tender already wired and a heated clothing BMW (according to muskrat) port on it. So far so good - right fairing is cracked (1/2 inch) from being tightened down to much I think other than that it's perfect. Handles great - very much lighter than the FJR but a bit more agressive seating position than the Feejer - not sure if this will be the right 2-up bike for me - much easier to handle with a passenger but not sure how comfortable for long distances - I think it's more comparable to a VFR with hard bags than say a ST1300/FJR/Concours type ride. Looking for exhaust suggestions (don't want to spend the $$ for a full Termi) smoked shield - GIVI trunk (I think Scotty has one at AMS) and other farkle ideas. Probably will head down to AMS this Sat (if the weather is OK) AND park across the street.

 [thumbsup] Congrat's man  [moto]

Cool story Jim.  I purchased mine under very similar circumstances.  A wealthy gentleman bought the motorcycle for his wife and she just wasn't into the riding thing.  I bought the bike 9 months ago (2002 Monster 900) with 1200 miles on the odometer.  It was stored in a climate controlled garage along with his other 5 bikes (A few Ducatis and BMWs) and next to a Panoz and several top dollar luxury cars.

Congrats on the purchase and I hope your insurance dilemma straightens itself out.  I'm not sure if Mivv (an Italian exhaust manufacturer) makes a system for the ST3, but if they do i recommend it.  Very pleased with my titanium slip-ons.  Can't find many quality titanium pipes for $650 new.  [thumbsup]  You'll hear em soon.

we can darken your screen.  bring it over.

+1 for muskrat-method screen darkening.  If you won't be looking through it, rattle-can that thing.  Those aftermarket smoke screens are ridiculously overpriced.

I told him yesterday but he forgets.  [coffee]