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Title: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: pitbull on March 21, 2009, 11:13:34 AM
Can anyone tell me what year wheels would fit on a 2000 m900? Thanks very much in advance.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: dlearl476 on March 21, 2009, 11:38:11 AM
Is your rear axle hollow or solid?  I'm no expert, but I've been doing a lot of research into putting some 2000< wheels on my '99.  AFAIK, 900 wheels changed from the older, solid, 17mm axle to newer, hollow, 25mm axles in 2000.  The other bikes (750-600) some time later.  Accordingly, if you have the solid axle, any wheel from a 2000< monster will work, if you have the hollow one, any wheel from a 2000< with a double-sided swingarm will work.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: pitbull on March 21, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: dlearl476 on March 21, 2009, 11:38:11 AM
Is your rear axle hollow or solid?  I'm no expert, but I've been doing a lot of research into putting some 2000< wheels on my '99.  AFAIK, 900 wheels changed from the older, solid, 17mm axle to newer, hollow, 25mm axles in 2000.  The other bikes (750-600) some time later.  Accordingly, if you have the solid axle, any wheel from a 2000< monster will work, if you have the hollow one, any wheel from a 2000< with a double-sided swingarm will work.

thanks for the good information. I'm actually not in possession of the bike and looking at a salvaged monster ............thinking of buying it as a track bike.
So....I'm not really sure if it has the solid axle or not, but this is great info. for when I go to see it.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: dlearl476 on March 21, 2009, 12:26:19 PM
Quote from: pitbull on March 21, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
thanks for the good information. I'm actually not in possession of the bike and looking at a salvaged monster ............thinking of buying it as a track bike.
So....I'm not really sure if it has the solid axle or not, but this is great info. for when I go to see it.

Well, in which case I'd hope it has the newer wheels if I were you.  Nice wheels for older bikes are getting harder and harder to find.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: supertjeduc on March 21, 2009, 12:27:22 PM
A 2000 M900 has a solid 17mm axle
Problem is that you can't buy the good bearings if you buy a lets say 5 spoke S4 wheel
Front wheels is much easier every thing will fit with a 25mm axle will fit exept 999 wheels
I fiited some S4 wheels in my 2001
(http://supertjeduc.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p982183058-5.jpg)
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: dlearl476 on March 21, 2009, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: supertjeduc on March 21, 2009, 12:27:22 PM
A 2000 M900 has a solid 17mm axle

Bummer, I thought the 900 changed in 2000 with the FI.  Most of the wheel fitment charts I've looked at list <2000 and 2000< for 900s.  I know that the Alpina wheels I'm installing had a spacer in the rear wheel to allow the use of the 53mm X 25mm X 12 mm bearings OR the 53 mm X 17mm X 14 mm bearings that the older wheels use.  (May be 56mm OD, I can't remember.  They are the same for both types of wheel.)

btw, I'm stil loving the Gallasetti.   [thumbsup]  (Although I'm probably putting the RoadRacing pipe back on, noise be damned.  [laugh])

Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: Ddan on March 21, 2009, 01:32:27 PM
My 2000 900 has the hollow axle
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: Duck-Stew on March 21, 2009, 04:19:21 PM
MONSTER FRONT AXLE:

Up to and including the 1999 model year, the Monster had a 20mm front axle.  In 2000 (& up) they changed the front axle to a 25mm 'hollow' axle that people are talking about in this thread.

MONSTER REAR AXLE:

Up to and including the 2001 model year (except the 2001 S4), the Monster had a 17mm rear axle.  2002 - 2008 Monsters (& '01 S4's) have a 25mm rear axle (also 'hollow').

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SS FRONT AXLE:

From 1993 (IIRC), up to and including the 1998 model year, the SS had a 20mm axle (unless you find a 1998 SS european model which has the same specs as a US 1999).  In 1999, Ducati switched the SS up to the 25mm hollow front axle.  (1991 & 1992 SS's had a 17mm front axle IIRC.)

SS REAR AXLE:

1991 up to 2007 (or whenever they stopped making the bike), the SS's had a 17mm rear axle.  All of them did.

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SBK FRONT AXLE:

(IIRC) All 916/748/996/998 bikes had a 25mm hollow front axle.
749/999's also have a 25mm hollow front axle, but (IIRC) the wheel's won't swap (either front or rear w/o a lot of effort)




That's pretty much all I know about axles and wheel swaps.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: pitbull on March 22, 2009, 05:03:34 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on March 21, 2009, 04:19:21 PM
MONSTER FRONT AXLE:

Up to and including the 1999 model year, the Monster had a 20mm front axle.  In 2000 (& up) they changed the front axle to a 25mm 'hollow' axle that people are talking about in this thread.

MONSTER REAR AXLE:

Up to and including the 2001 model year (except the 2001 S4), the Monster had a 17mm rear axle.  2002 - 2008 Monsters (& '01 S4's) have a 25mm rear axle (also 'hollow').

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SS FRONT AXLE:

From 1993 (IIRC), up to and including the 1998 model year, the SS had a 20mm axle (unless you find a 1998 SS european model which has the same specs as a US 1999).  In 1999, Ducati switched the SS up to the 25mm hollow front axle.  (1991 & 1992 SS's had a 17mm front axle IIRC.)

SS REAR AXLE:

1991 up to 2007 (or whenever they stopped making the bike), the SS's had a 17mm rear axle.  All of them did.

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SBK FRONT AXLE:

(IIRC) All 916/748/996/998 bikes had a 25mm hollow front axle.
749/999's also have a 25mm hollow front axle, but (IIRC) the wheel's won't swap (either front or rear w/o a lot of effort)




That's pretty much all I know about axles and wheel swaps.

Wow.........thank you very much for the very comprehensive list of info. regarding wheel swaps.......exactly what I was looking for.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: 2001cromo on March 22, 2009, 05:21:00 PM
One more little tid bit to add to what Stew already covered.

The 2000-2001 monster front wheels also used a mechanical driven speedo which doubled as a spacer on the front wheel. Where the 2002 (also the 2001 S4) and newer all use a digital speedo's which are read off the rear wheel. And there's a plain spacer instead of of the mechanical speedo drive/spacer on the front wheel.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: Duck-Stew on March 22, 2009, 05:30:05 PM
Quote from: 2001cromo on March 22, 2009, 05:21:00 PM
One more little tid bit to add to what Stew already covered.

The 2000-2001 monster front wheels also used a mechanical driven speedo which doubled as a spacer on the front wheel. Where the 2002 (also the 2001 S4) and newer all use a digital speedo's which are read off the rear wheel. And there's a plain spacer instead of of the mechanical speedo drive/spacer on the front wheel.


Oh yeah....that part.  Uh....+1 to '2001cromo's comments then.   [laugh]

Quote from: pitbull on March 22, 2009, 05:03:34 PM
Wow.........thank you very much for the very comprehensive list of info. regarding wheel swaps.......exactly what I was looking for.

You're welcome!  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: pitbull on March 22, 2009, 05:41:09 PM
2001 cromo: from a fellow 2001 cromo rider......thanks for the additional info.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: alexisonfire on March 22, 2009, 06:31:26 PM
This is good wheel info.  Anyone know the best way to go about getting 5-spoke wheels for a decent price? Haven't seen any for sale on the forums.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: Duck-Stew on March 22, 2009, 06:37:26 PM
Quote from: alexisonfire on March 22, 2009, 06:31:26 PM
This is good wheel info.  Anyone know the best way to go about getting 5-spoke wheels for a decent price? Haven't seen any for sale on the forums.

ST4 and Monster S4 are both 5-spokes.  The front off a 998 is a 5-spoke as well.  As far as a decent price goes, well...post up under 'Parts Wanted' and see what comes up.  May take a while though...
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: pitbull on March 25, 2009, 08:34:10 PM
this might be a stupid question however, is there any way to make a rear wheel with the 25mm axle fit the 2000 monster  which takes a rear wheel with the 17mm axle? I only ask as it appears that the 2000 rear wheel is tough to find.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: ducpainter on March 25, 2009, 08:41:11 PM
Quote from: pitbull on March 25, 2009, 08:34:10 PM
this might be a stupid question however, is there any way to make a rear wheel with the 25mm axle fit the 2000 monster  which takes a rear wheel with the 17mm axle? I only ask as it appears that the 2000 rear wheel is tough to find.
You can make a sleeve that fits the axle od and the bearing id.

Mr Fry-Cycles and Ti Avenger are building one now.

There a thread in NMC....about a lathe and beer. ;)
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: supertjeduc on March 26, 2009, 02:45:36 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 25, 2009, 08:41:11 PM
You can make a sleeve that fits the axle od and the bearing id.

Mr Fry-Cycles and Ti Avenger are building one now.

There a thread in NMC....about a lathe and beer. ;)

Yes i did it the same way ,did cost me 10â,¬ and it works ,the sleeve also works as a distance holder between the bearings
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: pitbull on March 26, 2009, 05:24:55 AM
Quote from: supertjeduc on March 26, 2009, 02:45:36 AM
Yes i did it the same way ,did cost me 10â,¬ and it works ,the sleeve also works as a distance holder between the bearings


do you have any more information on this..........I looked for the thread Ducpainter mentioned, but couldn't find it.
Any help here would be very much appreciated
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: ducpainter on March 26, 2009, 05:33:31 AM
Quote from: pitbull on March 26, 2009, 05:24:55 AM

do you have any more information on this..........I looked for the thread Ducpainter mentioned, but couldn't find it.
Any help here would be very much appreciated
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=20666.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=20666.0)

It's more about the fun they had than actual info about the spacer. ;)

I'm sure you could pm them and get some details.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: pitbull on March 26, 2009, 09:27:38 AM
thanks Duckpainter..........I didn't thing to go look on the other site for the thread......so thanks for the link.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: pitbull on March 26, 2009, 09:35:52 AM
duh.........so it was this site...........thanks again
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: Duck-Stew on March 26, 2009, 10:51:03 AM
Quote from: pitbull on March 25, 2009, 08:34:10 PM
this might be a stupid question however, is there any way to make a rear wheel with the 25mm axle fit the 2000 monster  which takes a rear wheel with the 17mm axle? I only ask as it appears that the 2000 rear wheel is tough to find.

The 2000 M900 rear wheel is the same from 2000-2001.  It's also the same wheel as the SS900i.e. 1999 to 2002.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: Duck-Stew on March 26, 2009, 10:56:56 AM
Here ya go!
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21154.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21154.0)

Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: pitbull on March 26, 2009, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on March 26, 2009, 10:56:56 AM
Here ya go!
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21154.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21154.0)



yeah.........saw that too

sent him a message, but I think he may want to sell the whole bike. If he decides to part it out there are a few things I will try to buy.
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: supertjeduc on March 27, 2009, 10:53:04 AM
Great news for all monster riders with the same problem

SKF seems to have 17/47/12 bearings ,
Number is 361203R
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: alexisonfire on April 19, 2009, 07:48:43 PM
What's a fair price to pay for lightly used 5 spoke wheels off of a 2002 ST4s with 3500 miles on them?
Title: Re: wheels for 2000 m900
Post by: alexisonfire on April 20, 2009, 11:51:30 AM
bump for the question above.