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Title: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: ducpainter on March 27, 2009, 06:12:52 AM
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Title: Re: Kinda interesting
Post by: TiNi on March 27, 2009, 06:31:33 AM
kinda? i don't think that is quite strong enough nate... that is VeRY interesting!  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: Slide Panda on March 27, 2009, 06:54:41 AM
Ha!  I like his style - a 70's Datsun named the White Zombie. 

Drag is the perfect application for Electrics like this one and the Killacycle.  100% torque in the system as soon as any power hits the motor.
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: ducpainter on March 27, 2009, 06:55:57 AM
Quote from: yuu on March 27, 2009, 06:54:41 AM
Ha!  I like his style - a 70's Datsun named the White Zombie. 

Drag is the perfect application for Electrics like this one and the Killacycle.  100% torque in the system as soon as any power hits the motor.
Battery life is somewhat lacking... ;D
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: Ddan on March 27, 2009, 01:44:44 PM
Very cool, but I don't get the environmental angle.  Does all his electricity come from solar or wind?
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: Slide Panda on March 27, 2009, 01:49:34 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 27, 2009, 06:55:57 AM
Battery life is somewhat lacking... ;D

Indeed... but no good drag car falls under the 'gas sipper' label

Quote from: Dan on March 27, 2009, 01:44:44 PM
Very cool, but I don't get the environmental angle.  Does all his electricity come from solar or wind?
- Yeah - saying that running his car makes no pollution isn't 100% right.  Sure nothing from the (non) tail pipe - but as you say, powers gotta com from some place.  And I doubt that drag strips got it's own wind farm.  But run for run, his electric's going to be responsible for a lot less total emissions than the gas cars - but saying there's 0 emissions related to running that car isn't the whole truth.

Either way... I got a luagh out of that little Datsun tooling up on teh 'vette
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: superjohn on March 27, 2009, 02:18:23 PM
Quote from: Dan on March 27, 2009, 01:44:44 PM
Very cool, but I don't get the environmental angle.  Does all his electricity come from solar or wind?

I think he's trying to be environmentally friendly, not environmentally perfect.

Power plant sourced electricity emits fewer pollutants per unit of power than a gasoline internal combustion engine. There's still an emission, it's just less. Like a SBD after using beano.
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: il d00d on March 27, 2009, 02:38:38 PM
I will miss having gears and exhaust sounds, but we march inevitably toward an electric car future.  I guess mid 11 ETs is a nice consolation prize :)

Also the *car* produces no carbon.  No one ever adds on the carbon produced from the production of gasoline to the footprint of ICE cars  ;)
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: Drjones on March 27, 2009, 02:46:32 PM
Respect the engineering he did to get it to that level, but as an environmental statement; Yawn.  Call me when one goes from LA to NY in four days or less, costs under $20k, doesn't cause rolling brownouts when 20 million people plug in to recharge at night and can get me at least 300 miles inland when a farking hurricane comes barrelling onshore.  Plus that whole cheaper than gas thing will go out the window when the electric company jacks up their rates to pay for all the new power plants and added infrastructure.

Don't kid yourself, no alternate energy source for mass transit is going to be cheap and easy to switch over to.  Just sayin.
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: il d00d on March 27, 2009, 02:53:26 PM
Power companies won't need to add to the infrastructure.  They scale down output at night so that the cheapest plants to run are the only ones meeting the decreased demand.  If people power up their cars overnight when demand is low, the power companies will only need to... not scale down output.  And find a giant rake for all that money.


Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: NAKID on March 27, 2009, 05:21:45 PM
Quote from: yuu on March 27, 2009, 01:49:34 PM
Indeed... but no good drag car falls under the 'gas sipper' label

- Yeah - saying that running his car makes no pollution isn't 100% right.  Sure nothing from the (non) tail pipe - but as you say, powers gotta com from some place.  And I doubt that drag strips got it's own wind farm.  But run for run, his electric's going to be responsible for a lot less total emissions than the gas cars - but saying there's 0 emissions related to running that car isn't the whole truth.

Either way... I got a luagh out of that little Datsun tooling up on teh 'vette

Don't forget the pollution created by making all of those batteries. Plus, while he was running the lead acid batteries, don't they off-gas while charging?
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: ducpainter on March 27, 2009, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: NAKID on March 27, 2009, 05:21:45 PM
Don't forget the pollution created by making all of those batteries. Plus, while he was running the lead acid batteries, don't they off-gas while charging?
Pretty sure the gas created by a lead acid battery charging is hydrogen.

When did that make the list?
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: Ddan on March 27, 2009, 05:29:46 PM
We are on the bleeding edge of environmental awareness here at the DMF.
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: NAKID on March 27, 2009, 05:37:40 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 27, 2009, 05:25:03 PM
Pretty sure the gas created by a lead acid battery charging is hydrogen.

When did that make the list?

I wasn't sure, hence the question mark at the end...



;D
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: DoubleEagle on March 28, 2009, 10:36:34 PM
Here in Ohio, I just the other day got my Electric Bill for the past 30 days and in w, the bill was a stuffer.

The stuffer showed the projected cost of a Kilowatt or Megawatt of power over the next 25 year in 5 year increments.

Up, UP, UP . It appears due to the Powers that be , my cost for Electricity is going to increase from now to Kingdom come.    Dolph     :(
Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: Rob Hilding on March 29, 2009, 07:50:06 AM
Quote from: Dan on March 27, 2009, 01:44:44 PM
Very cool, but I don't get the environmental angle.  Does all his electricity come from solar or wind?

Me thinks it's from paint fumes ;D

See: http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21272.msg379668#msg379668 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21272.msg379668#msg379668)
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Title: Re: Kinda interesting...correction...Very interesting
Post by: Triple J on March 29, 2009, 08:52:26 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 27, 2009, 05:25:03 PM
Pretty sure the gas created by a lead acid battery charging is hydrogen.

When did that make the list?

It will.  Everything eventually does!  [laugh]