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Title: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: minnesotamonster on March 31, 2009, 05:45:10 PM
Is there any way to do this legally?  I purchased a few tv shows through Itunes and want to burn them so I can watch them on my tv through a regular dvd player. Any help appreciated. TIA
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: superjohn on March 31, 2009, 05:47:57 PM
From the iTunes help page

"Movies purchased from the iTunes Store can't be burned to a DVD or VCD that will play in a DVD player or Video CD."
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: NAKID on March 31, 2009, 05:48:18 PM
You could buy a cable and hook your iPod directly up to either the DVD player or the TV...
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: superjohn on March 31, 2009, 05:54:38 PM
Quote from: NAKID on March 31, 2009, 05:48:18 PM
You could buy a cable and hook your iPod directly up to either the DVD player or the TV...

That's what I did when I watched "Truth in 24" Mini-DVI to HDMI cable to the plasma screen and audio out to the stereo. It kind of sucks that using the wireless speakers option only works with music and not videos, but I don't watch a lot on my computer.
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: redxblack on March 31, 2009, 05:56:10 PM
If you have a pile of money, you could get an apple tv.
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: minnesotamonster on March 31, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
ya I know I could hook it up through my computer. don't really want to go that route. I also would like to have "hard copys" of the shows as well. I know about the message in the itunes help. just wondering if there was a way. It can't be illegal to do it since I purchased the shows right?
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: minnesotamonster on March 31, 2009, 06:03:23 PM
Quote from: redxblack on March 31, 2009, 05:56:10 PM
If you have a pile of money, you could get an apple tv.

No pile of money  :'(  I ride a 600.   [cheeky]
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: erkishhorde on March 31, 2009, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: minnesotamonster on March 31, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
It can't be illegal to do it since I purchased the shows right?

Mmmmm.... I dunno....
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: il d00d on March 31, 2009, 10:21:23 PM
I haven't gotten any official answers on my clumsy interpretations of IP law, but I will hazard a guess (I am always glad to give free, inaccurate legal advice  ;D) 

It is illegal.  Incredibly stupid that it is, but illegal.

DRM was designed to prevent illegal distribution, but it seems to overstep its legal boundaries by conferring rights to the copyright holders that abridge your fair use rights.   Basically, DRM adds the condition that the content provider has absolute control over how you enjoy that content - you can, say, watch  your movie in mov format, but trying to convert the file you just paid for to something else is illegal, since you would first have to strip DRM to convert it, and DMCA (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/usc_sec_17_00001201----000-.html) says any circumvention of DRM is illegal.   Fair use, on the other hand, says the opposite (http://www.riaa.com/physicalpiracy.php?content_selector=piracy_online_the_law).  In the case of CDs, you can make copies in other formats for playback on your iPod.

As an ethical question, personally, I don't see any difference between converting a movie or music to some other format for playback on another device.  If I had no intentions of sharing it with the interweb, I would convert the file, and sleep well at night.

This is an interesting article on the subject - http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=885371# (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=885371#)
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: Mother on April 01, 2009, 12:00:30 AM
fair use

public library

means get to watch anything and everything for free

problem solved
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: trenner on April 01, 2009, 04:54:07 PM
Quote from: minnesotamonster on March 31, 2009, 05:45:10 PM
Is there any way to do this [...]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay#Requiem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay#Requiem)



Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: ROBsS4R on April 01, 2009, 05:00:30 PM
You can connect your PC or Laptop to your TV via a VGA, HDMI etc cable.

Thats what I do.

and oh yeah I heard good things about the application above.
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: derby on April 01, 2009, 05:25:35 PM
Quote from: minnesotamonster on March 31, 2009, 06:02:00 PM

It can't be illegal to do it since I purchased the shows right?


you don't "own" the show, though. technically, as said above, you've purchased a license to view the content in a specific manner (in itunes, on your ipod, on an appletv, etc).
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: the_Journeyman on April 03, 2009, 05:47:01 AM
Oddly enough...  If it's in MP4 video format you CAN burn it to a DVD.  What I have done with non-DRM stuff is simply import into Windows Movie Maker and create whatever output type I want.  Then I pull that file into my DVD creator software and click burn and I'm done.  There's also tons of converters out there you can download to see if you can convert a DRM file ~

JM
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: minnesotamonster on April 04, 2009, 09:06:36 PM
Hmm...It is an mp4 but when I try to import it into windows movie maker, it says unable to open file...
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: the_Journeyman on April 05, 2009, 07:20:03 AM
Vista or XP?  It won't work with Movie Maker in XP but did in Vista.

J M
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: minnesotamonster on April 05, 2009, 01:39:58 PM
Yup, its xp.
Title: Re: Burning Downloaded TV Shows from Itunes to DVD
Post by: Mother on April 05, 2009, 07:46:28 PM
Quote from: minnesotamonster on April 04, 2009, 09:06:36 PM
Hmm...It is an mp4 but when I try to import it into windows movie maker, it says unable to open file...

I have the same issue

but

media player will run it

I'm running XP Media Center