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Title: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: derby on March 31, 2009, 08:58:07 PM
schedule:

http://www.circuitvalencia.com/ver_noticia.html?cnt_id=25513 (http://www.circuitvalencia.com/ver_noticia.html?cnt_id=25513)


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia
Post by: Spidey on March 31, 2009, 09:31:07 PM
Speed Schedule (idiots!)

Sun      4p EST/ 1p PST:     Race 1
Tues    12p EST/9a PST:     Race 1
Tues    1p EST/10a PST:     Race 2
Tues    2p EST/11a PST:     Supersport

Live Schedule
(9 hrs ahead of PST, 6 hrs ahead of EST)

Superpole  Sat        3p        (9am EST, 6am PST)
SBK 1        Sun       12p       (6a EST, 3am PST)
SS            Sun       1:25p    (7:25a EST, 4:25a PST)
SBK 2        Sun       2:30p    (8:30a EST, 5:30a PST)


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia
Post by: zooom on April 01, 2009, 03:35:24 AM
Speed Schedule (idiots!)

Sun      4p EST/ 1p PST:     Race 1
Tues    12p EST/9a PST:     Race 1
Tues    1p EST/10a PST:     Race 2
Tues    2p EST/11a PST:     Supersport

 

good thing I leave late morning on Sunday and don't get home till late evening on Tuesday, so I can watch the races....maybe on Wednesday or something....


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia
Post by: gm2 on April 01, 2009, 06:36:19 AM
Speed Schedule (idiots!)

Sun      4p EST/ 1p PST:     Race 1
Tues    12p EST/9a PST:     Race 1
Tues    1p EST/10a PST:     Race 2
Tues    2p EST/11a PST:     Supersport

Live Schedule
(9 hrs ahead of PST, 6 hrs ahead of EST)

Superpole  Sat        3p        (9am EST, 6am PST)
SBK 1        Sun       12p       (6a EST, 3am PST)
SS            Sun       1:25p    (7:25a EST, 4:25a PST)
SBK 2        Sun       2:30p    (8:30a EST, 5:30a PST)

thanks!   :)


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia
Post by: Spidey on April 01, 2009, 09:08:06 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/2963683364_3008e8ce22_o.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3422/3404965124_0ce0d1aaec.jpg?v=0)

(http://resources.motogp.com/files/images/xy/2008/MotoGP/n494626_234962_Aerial+shot+of+the+Valencia+Circuit-1280x960-oct23.jpg._original.original.jpg)

Google Map of Circuit:  http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=39.485661,-0.630341&spn=0.012801,0.027466&t=k&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=39.485661,-0.630341&spn=0.012801,0.027466&t=k&z=16)





Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia
Post by: gm2 on April 01, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
the left sides of my tires are crying in sympathy


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia
Post by: Spidey on April 01, 2009, 09:44:08 AM
Holy crap!  I missed this last year.  Someone posted it up on another forum.  That's just awesome.   [clap]

SBK Superpole Valencia 2008 - Kiyonari (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aS3jC_nKW4#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia
Post by: derby on April 01, 2009, 09:56:03 AM
the left sides of my tires are crying in sympathy

probably a good thing since they get "left out" at your usual stomping grounds.  ;D


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia
Post by: gm2 on April 01, 2009, 11:31:01 AM
nah man, i just used ALL of the left side of that tire   [cheeky]


and yeah, kiyo last year.. wow!  folks were jabberin' about that for days.  ...or maybe it was just derby.   ;D


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia
Post by: pennyrobber on April 01, 2009, 01:26:53 PM
Is that a supermoto track down by turn 5?


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia
Post by: BastrdHK on April 03, 2009, 02:36:38 AM
Man, doesn't look like there is much run off if you blow turn 1 coming down the straight  :o


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (FP1 Spoilers)
Post by: derby on April 03, 2009, 06:03:42 AM
Free Practice 1

1. Carlos Checa (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:35.673
2. Yukio Kagayama (Suz GSX-R1000), 1:35.741
3. Max Biaggi (Apr RSV4), 1:35.805
4. Ryuichi Kiyonari (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:35.839
5. Michel Fabrizio (Duc 1098 F09), 1:36.027
6. Jakub Smrz (Duc 1098R), 1:36.110
7. Max Neukirchner (Suz GSX-R1000), 1:36.160
8. Broc Parkes (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:36.205
9. Noriyuki Haga (Duc 1098 F09), 1:36.221
10. Regis Laconi (Duc 1098R), 1:36.369
11. Tom Sykes (Yam YZF-R1), 1:36.398
12. Leon Haslam (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:36.407
13. Troy Corser (BMW S1000 RR), 1:36.450
14. Jonathan Rea (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:36.599
15. Shinya Nakano (Apr RSV4), 1:36.643
16. John Hopkins (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:36.646
17. Ben Spies (Yam YZF-R1), 1:36.690
18. Shane Byrne (Duc 1098R), 1:36.791
19. Brendan Roberts (Duc 1098R), 1:36.802
20. Karl Muggeridge (Suz GSX-R1000), 1:37.045
21. Makoto Tamada (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:37.419
22. David Salom (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:37.446
23. Ruben Xaus (BMW S1000 RR), 1:37.527
24. Luca Scassa (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:37.690
25. Ayrton Badovini (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:38.055
26. David Checa (Yam YZF-R1), 1:38.058
27. Vittorio Iannuzzo (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:38.299
28. Tommy Hill (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:38.344
29. R. Resch (Suz GSX-R1000), 1:38.709
30. Matteo Baiocco (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:39.124


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (FP1 Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on April 03, 2009, 07:41:41 AM
WSBK ยป

Valencia WSBK - Qualifying times (1)


1.   Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Racing RSV4   1min   34.775   sec
2.   Ben Spies USA   Yamaha WSB YZF R1   1min   34.907   sec
3.   Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1198   1min   34.908   sec
4.   Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1198   1min   35.243   sec
5.   Tom Sykes GBR   Yamaha WSB YZF R1   1min   35.270   sec
6.   Jakub Smrz   CZE   Guandalini Racing Ducati 1198   1min   35.278   sec
7.   Max Neukirchner   GER Suzuki Alstare Brux GSX-R1000   1min   35.285   sec
8.   Yukio Kagayama JPN Suzuki Alstare Brux GSX-R1000   1min   35.316   sec
9.   Jonathan Rea   GBR Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR   1min   35.328   sec
10.   Ryuichi Kiyonari   JPN Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR   1min   35.372   sec
11.   Shinya Nakano   JPN Aprilia Racing RSV4   1min   35.416   sec
12.   Regis Laconi   FRA   DFX Corse Honda CBR1000RR   1min   35.489   sec
13.   Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR   1min   35.516   sec
14.   Leon Haslam   GBR   Stiggy Racing Honda CBR1000RR   1min   35.535   sec
15.   Carlos Checa   SPA   Hannspree Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR   1min   35.541   sec
16.   Broc Parkes   AUS Kawasaki World Superbike ZX-10R   1min   35.662   sec
17.   Brendan Roberts   AUS Guandalini Racing Ducati 1198   1min   35.755   sec
18.   John Hopkins   USA   Stiggy Racing Honda CBR1000RR   1min   35.868   sec
19.   Shane Byrne GBR   Sterilgarda Ducati 1198   1min   36.051   sec
20.   David Salom   SPA   Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R   1min   36.086   sec
21.   Makoto Tamada   JPN Kawasaki World Superbike ZX-10R   1min   36.189   sec
22.   Karl Muggeridge   AUS Celani Suzuki GSX-R1000   1min   36.266   sec
23.   Ruben Xaus   SPA   BMW Motorrad S1000RR   1min   36.404   sec
24.   Ayrton Badovini   ITA   PSG-1 Kawasaki ZX-10R   1min   36.745   sec
25.   Luca Scassa   ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R   1min   36.758   sec
26.   David Checa   SPA   Yamaha France GMT 94 Ipone YZF R1   1min   36.908   sec
27.   Tommy Hill   GBR   Hannspree Althea Honda CBR1000RR   1min   37.041   sec
28.   Vittorio Iannuzzo   ITA SCI Honda CBR1000RR   1min   37.509   sec
29.   Matteo Baiocco   ITA   PSG-1 Kawasaki ZX-10R   1min   37.541   sec
30.   Roland Resch   SWI   TKR Suzuki Switzerland GSX-R1000   1min   38.225   sec


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (FP1 Spoilers)
Post by: zooom on April 03, 2009, 07:42:07 AM
Biaggi on Provisional Pole

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36035 (http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36035)

FIM Superbike World Championship
Valencia, Spain
April 3, 2009
Provisional Qualifying Results (all on Pirelli tires):

1. Max Biaggi (Apr RSV4), 1:34.775
2. Ben Spies (Yam YZF-R1), 1:34.907
3. Noriyuki Haga (Duc 1098 F09), 1:34.908
4. Michel Fabrizio (Duc 1098 F09), 1:35.243
5. Tom Sykes (Yam YZF-R1), 1:35.270
6. Jakub Smrz (Duc 1098R), 1:35.278
7. Max Neukirchner (Suz GSX-R1000), 1:35.285
8. Yukio Kagayama (Suz GSX-R1000), 1:35.316
9. Jonathan Rea (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:35.328
10. Ryuichi Kiyonari (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:35.372
11. Shinya Nakano (Apr RSV4), 1:35.416
12. Regis Laconi (Duc 1098R), 1:35.489
13. Troy Corser (BMW S1000 RR), 1:35.516
14. Leon Haslam (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:35.535
15. Carlos Checa (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:35.541
16. Broc Parkes (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:35.662
17. Brendan Roberts (Duc 1098R), 1:35.755
18. John Hopkins (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:35.868
19. Shane Byrne (Duc 1098R), 1:36.051
20. Davide Salom (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:36.086
21. Makoto Tamada (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:36.189
22. Karl Muggeridge (Suz GSX-R1000), 1:36.266
23. Ruben Xaus (BMW S1000 RR), 1:36.404
24. Ayrton Badovini (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:36.745
25. Luca Scassa (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:36.758
26. David Checa (Yam YZF-R1), 1:36.906
27. Tommy Hill (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:37.041
28. Vittorio Iannuzzo (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:37.509
29. Matteo Baiocco (Kaw ZX-10R), 1:37.541
30. Roland Resch (Suz GSX-R1000), 1:38.225



Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Q1 Spoilers)
Post by: zooom on April 03, 2009, 07:42:40 AM
DOHT...gm2 and I on the same page here!...LOL


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Q1 Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on April 03, 2009, 07:45:15 AM
;D


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Q1 Spoilers)
Post by: Speeddog on April 03, 2009, 07:51:03 AM
Glad to see Ben in 2nd, I thought maybe problems had cropped up after the times shown for FP1.

Now, go crush 'em in SuperPole, Ben!  [beer]


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Q1 Spoilers)
Post by: Spidey on April 03, 2009, 07:54:19 AM
I love that Haga and Spies are .001 apart.   [laugh]  Haga probably shouldn't have had that single extra blueberry in his muffin this morning.


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Q1 Spoilers)
Post by: MadDuck on April 03, 2009, 08:50:48 AM
Spies - Biaggi - Haga.....whooo boy, rockem sockem ----- it's been said before but what a fun season this is going to be!  Let's hope Moto GP is going to have tight fights this year too.


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Q1 Spoilers)
Post by: Jester on April 03, 2009, 10:42:17 AM
Spies - Biaggi - Haga.....whooo boy, rockem sockem ----- it's been said before but what a fun season this is going to be!  Let's hope Moto GP is going to have tight fights this year too.

Always some good fights for positions 4-8 in GP.   :P


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Q1 Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on April 04, 2009, 06:16:37 AM
what-what

http://www.crash.net/World+Superbikes/News/144875/1/spies_pole_supremacy_continues_at_valencia.html (http://www.crash.net/World+Superbikes/News/144875/1/spies_pole_supremacy_continues_at_valencia.html)


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Superpole Spoilers)
Post by: ute on April 04, 2009, 02:15:27 PM
Biaggi ...........the man

he should be on a Ducati


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Superpole Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on April 04, 2009, 05:34:01 PM
Biaggi ...........the man

he should be on a Ducati

huh?


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1 Spoilers)
Post by: derby on April 05, 2009, 03:43:26 AM
Valencia Superbike - Race 1
SUNDAY, 05 APRIL 2009 13:13

1 41 Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 36'44.766 (150,408 kph)
2 84 Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 3.677
3 76 Neukirchner M. (GER) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 3.959
4 55 Laconi R. (FRA) Ducati 1098R 4.210
5 91 Haslam L. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 13.824
6 71 Kagayama Y. (JPN) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 14.562
7 66 Sykes T. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 15.155
8 3 Biaggi M. (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 Factory 16.316
9 67 Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 20.361
10 23 Parkes B. (AUS) Kawasaki ZX 10R 23.878
11 121 Hopkins J. (USA) Honda CBR1000RR 30.902
12 9 Kiyonari R. (JPN) Honda CBR1000RR 31.298
13 111 Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 32.660
14 100 Tamada M. (JPN) Kawasaki ZX 10R 42.156
15 33 Hill T. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 43.040
16 31 Muggeridge K. (AUS) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 45.204
17 86 Badovini A. (ITA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 52.023
18 99 Scassa L. (ITA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 52.474
19 25 Salom D. (ESP) Kawasaki ZX 10R 55.775
20 15 Baiocco M. (ITA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 56.202
RET 7 Checa C. (ESP) Honda CBR1000RR
RET 94 Checa D. (ESP) Yamaha YZF R1
RET 24 Roberts B. (AUS) Ducati 1098R
RET 19 Spies B. (USA) Yamaha YZF R1
RET 77 Iannuzzo V. (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR
RET 88 Resch R. (AUT) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9
RET 96 Smrz J. (CZE) Ducati 1098R
RET 11 Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR
RET 65 Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR
 
:'(


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 2 Spoilers)
Post by: derby on April 05, 2009, 12:33:50 PM
Valencia Superbike - Race 2
Sunday, 05 April 2009 16:51    

1 41 Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 36'46.927 (150,261 kph)
2 19 Spies B. (USA) Yamaha YZF R1 5.105
3 84 Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 6.386
4 55 Laconi R. (FRA) Ducati 1098R 6.573
5 91 Haslam L. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 14.075
6 7 Checa C. (ESP) Honda CBR1000RR 17.333
7 76 Neukirchner M. (GER) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 19.207
8 3 Biaggi M. (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 Factory 20.697
9 9 Kiyonari R. (JPN) Honda CBR1000RR 21.015
10 66 Sykes T. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 22.581
11 67 Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 22.604
12 121 Hopkins J. (USA) Honda CBR1000RR 23.952
13 65 Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 29.082
14 96 Smrz J. (CZE) Ducati 1098R 29.277
15 11 Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 32.384
16 111 Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 35.125
17 23 Parkes B. (AUS) Kawasaki ZX 10R 38.344
18 24 Roberts B. (AUS) Ducati 1098R 39.161
19 31 Muggeridge K. (AUS) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 39.374
20 94 Checa D. (ESP) Yamaha YZF R1 49.904
21 25 Salom D. (ESP) Kawasaki ZX 10R 52.631
22 33 Hill T. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 52.966
23 77 Iannuzzo V. (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR 53.196
24 99 Scassa L. (ITA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 53.491
25 88 Resch R. (AUT) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'19.946
RET 71 Kagayama Y. (JPN) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9
RET 15 Baiocco M. (ITA) Kawasaki ZX 10R
RET 100 Tamada M. (JPN) Kawasaki ZX 10R
RET 86 Badovini A. (ITA) Kawasaki ZX 10R


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: mitt on April 05, 2009, 01:53:12 PM
I watched race 1, and didn't exactly see what happened to Ben.  Can anyone enlighten me?

mitt


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: Spidey on April 05, 2009, 03:08:59 PM
I watched race 1, and didn't exactly see what happened to Ben.  Can anyone enlighten me?

mitt

He was going into a turn (mebbe Turn 1), right behind Max N.  Haga was in first, with a gap building between Haga and Max N in 2d.  Spies caught up to Max N and looked like he was about to start looking for a way around him  He needed to get around him, as Haga was running away with it. 

It was pretty uneventful crash.  Ben lwas right behind Max N and lost the front just before the apex, I think.  It was really one of those really gradual slides where you're not really concerned about the rider getting hurt.  Ben may have had a slow speed roll in the gravel right at the end of his slide, but the bike caught and tumbled once it went off the track and was done.  If the bike had slide like he had, it may have been rideable. 


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: mitt on April 05, 2009, 04:44:44 PM
He was going into a turn (mebbe Turn 1), right behind Max N.  Haga was in first, with a gap building between Haga and Max N in 2d.  Spies caught up to Max N and looked like he was about to start looking for a way around him  He needed to get around him, as Haga was running away with it. 

It was pretty uneventful crash.  Ben lwas right behind Max N and lost the front just before the apex, I think.  It was really one of those really gradual slides where you're not really concerned about the rider getting hurt.  Ben may have had a slow speed roll in the gravel right at the end of his slide, but the bike caught and tumbled once it went off the track and was done.  If the bike had slide like he had, it may have been rideable. 

Thanks.  That is what I thought happened, but I was at a bar with no audio - scratch that, they had the nascar race and audio on - so it was hard to follow what exactly happened.  He was moving through the field pretty good before he went down.  Fab did too.

mitt


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: derby on April 05, 2009, 04:47:06 PM
ben was overriding the bike a tad due to an electronics issue. it's a shame he couldn't use that bike for race 2 since it was slightly faster than his other one.


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: El Matador on April 05, 2009, 06:46:06 PM
Haga FTW!  [bow_down] [bow_down] [bow_down]

Glad to see that the R1 with Spies is not invincible.

Good effort by Fabrizio, he pushed pretty hard both races.


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: BastrdHK on April 06, 2009, 05:50:48 AM
ben was overriding the bike a tad due to an electronics issue. it's a shame he couldn't use that bike for race 2 since it was slightly faster than his other one.

Derby,

Did they mention this in post race interviews?  I didn't get to see interviews from race 1 b/c Eurosport didn't show them.  I don't think Spies could've found 5 more sec out of either one of his bikes.

Haga was on a mission this round!!!  Post superpole interview was the freaking biz...and he backed it up!

I'll summarize:  (Insert Haga's thick Japanese accent at your discretion...love it)

Interviewer:  "Xerox Ducati rider Noriyuki Haga starting from 3rd position on the grid."

Haga:  "Yes, I'm very happy to be on the front row.  I have a good package, and I have already chosen my tires for the race b/c my lap times are quite consistent with these tires."

Interviewer:  "Looks like another tough weekend battling Spies at pole position."

Haga:  (Sharply) "Qualifying doesn't matter!....My setup/tires are for the race!  We are going to have a good weekend, win two races, and go to the next round."

Interviewer:  "Thank you Nori.  A very confident Noriyuki Haga starting from third position on the grid."


He really had me pumped up after that interview......I could not wait to see what would go down on the track  8)

I wish I could have been in the team meetings after Qatar.....someone lit a fire!    [popcorn]


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on April 06, 2009, 06:00:59 AM
Did they mention this in post race interviews?  I didn't get to see interviews from race 1 b/c Eurosport didn't show them. 

it was talked about after superpole, when he had to switch to the B bike


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: derby on April 06, 2009, 06:45:23 AM
Derby,

Did they mention this in post race interviews?  I didn't get to see interviews from race 1 b/c Eurosport didn't show them.  I don't think Spies could've found 5 more sec out of either one of his bikes.


i think ben mentioned it after the race 2 interviews.

http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Apr/090405qm.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Apr/090405qm.htm)

"Race one was unfortunate for me, I was pushing really hard to make up for an electrical issue going into the corner and crashed.


fwiw, you don't find 5 seconds, you find >0.2s a lap for 23 laps. ben said that the bike he used for race 2 was 3-4 tenths slower than the bike he crashed in race 1.



Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: ZLTFUL on April 06, 2009, 07:24:14 AM
And Nitro Nori is still my favorite rider in SBK.

Unfortunate for Ben. I enjoy watching him finish second to Nori.  ;)

But then any race where the Empress finishes outside of the top 5 is a good race. Keep it up Max.  ;D


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: BastrdHK on April 06, 2009, 11:52:29 AM

fwiw, you don't find 5 seconds, you find >0.2s a lap for 23 laps. ben said that the bike he used for race 2 was 3-4 tenths slower than the bike he crashed in race 1.



Really!?!.....thanks for the quick math lesson.  I know your feelings are hurt, but your reaching man...your reaching.

Let me put it bluntly,  Spies would not have challenged for the win on either bike.

Nori called the double after Superpole and backed it up.  I would give any rider credit for a weekend like that  8)


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: derby on April 06, 2009, 01:23:32 PM
Really!?!.....thanks for the quick math lesson.  I know your feelings are hurt, but your reaching man...your reaching.

nah, no hurt feelings. i was actually being serious. believe it or not, some people really don't get that.


Let me put it bluntly,  Spies would not have challenged for the win on either bike.


i'd have to look at the lap sheet, but i think he actually had the pace to catch nori in race 1.

notice i said "catch," not "pass."


Nori called the double after Superpole and backed it up.  I would give any rider credit for a weekend like that  8)


yup.. nori had a great weekend.

and before you label me a nori-hater, here's a pic of an old bike of mine:

(http://www.texastrailerman.com/derby/r71.jpg)


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on April 06, 2009, 01:27:50 PM
NORI HATER


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: BastrdHK on April 06, 2009, 04:17:51 PM
nah, no hurt feelings. i was actually being serious. believe it or not, some people really don't get that.


I took offense to that comment, but I know you were trying to be informative....you always are.


(http://www.texastrailerman.com/derby/r71.jpg)

Probably never have a chance to stradle one, but from what I hear (James Whitham) the R7 had one of the sweetest front ends of any bike ever.


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: EvilSteve on April 07, 2009, 05:11:35 AM
Haga was using his R7 front end for a while on the R1 I hear.


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: OT on April 07, 2009, 04:22:13 PM

"Race one was unfortunate for me, I was pushing really hard to make up for an electrical issue going into the corner and crashed.



OK, all the bikes have traction control, but......this sounds too much like he crashed because the autopilot malfunctioned, which triggers the old debate....


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: Speeddog on April 07, 2009, 04:33:25 PM
"Race one was unfortunate for me, I was pushing really hard (to make up for an electrical issue) going into the corner and crashed.

That's how I read it.


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: ducpainter on April 07, 2009, 04:38:24 PM
OK, all the bikes have traction control, but......this sounds too much like he crashed because the autopilot malfunctioned, which triggers the old debate....
"Race one was unfortunate for me, I was pushing really hard (to make up for an electrical issue) going into the corner and crashed.

That's how I read it.
I say tomahto...


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: Speeddog on April 07, 2009, 04:50:21 PM
OTOH, perhaps they're using an electronic throttle control instead of a slipper clutch, and it wasn't working.


Title: Re: 2009 World Superbike Round 3 - Valencia (Race 1+2 Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on April 07, 2009, 04:55:18 PM
or maybe an electrical issue isn't an electronics issue at all...


(yeah, it probably is)


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