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Title: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on April 05, 2009, 05:46:56 AM
My 696 is now fitted with a Stebel Nautilus Compact air horn... http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2137/ (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2137/) ... and whilst not as compact as it's name might suggest it is quite satisfyingly loud  :o  [evil].

Sooooo........ here's my installation:

Job #1 is to find a place to mount the thing (I allowed about 7 minutes for this part, but actual time taken to complete Job #1 was closer to 2 hours, lol). Eventually I decided that it would fit in the vacant area behind the non-existent-oilcooler cowling

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3217970686_60d33d107f_b.jpg)


Job #2 Make up a mounting bracket and.... um.... mount the thing. I removed the original horn & bolted up to the un-utilized oilcooler mount

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/3414704212_4dc41f04ea_b.jpg)


Job #3 Find the battery. A simple sounding task, but one made more interesting than a reasonable person might expect by the Journey-to-the-Centre-of-the-Bike expedition involved

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3512/3259911555_18842050d5_b.jpg)

What were they thinking? lol. Whilst I was in there I also fitted a fly-lead for my battery charger.


Job #4 Find a suitable place to locate the Stebel's relay, I chose to mount it right next to the existing relays, conveniently located (like almost everything else electrical) under the fuel tank.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3657/3414755704_0f0cf5efe8.jpg)    (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3331/3413929415_4495927d54.jpg)    

Yeah, a mess of wiring... but don't panic; these pictures are pre the final tidy-up!


Job #5 Wire it all up

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3394/3413805461_643da9670c_o.jpg)

Here's where I mounted the new fuse-block

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3414774148_c194ed1c4f_b.jpg)


Job #6 Test (at the tender age of just 49 I must be suffering some hearing impairment coz whilst it is loud, I didn't find it to be as nose-bleedingly stick-ya-fingers-in-ya-ears loud as others have suggested). I wasn't comfortable with the horn compressor's exposed terminals, so in my final tidy-up I fitted a weather resistant cap - in Ducati red naturally

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3559/3413991967_0b6789942d.jpg)


Job #7 Reassemble everything and job's done

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3462/3217970688_6416c4f6a2_b.jpg)


(http://www.ducatisti.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/eusa_dance.gif)


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: fasterblkduc on April 06, 2009, 07:48:15 AM
 [thumbsup]


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiSTi on April 06, 2009, 01:44:59 PM
Thanks for the write-up - great info and pics

I'm sure that horn will scare the hell out of cagers on their cell, kids playing on the road, tree rats, etc.

BTW, Where did you get the terminal cap for the horn?

Thanks
BucciMonster


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on April 07, 2009, 04:26:58 PM
Thanks for the write-up - great info and pics. I'm sure that horn will scare the hell out of cagers on their cell, kids playing on the road, tree rats, etc.

BTW, Where did you get the terminal cap for the horn?

Thanks
BucciMonster
Cheers!  Yeah, the Stebel makes one helluva noise  :o  ;D

Oh the terminal cap??  I liberated it from one of these....

(http://www.hospitalitydepot.com.au/files/catalog/janitorial/chemicals/general/miscellaneous/products/mr-sheen-regular-aerosol-250gm/600x600-1_1313570.jpg)


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: Sleeper_I on April 09, 2009, 12:27:40 AM
Thanks for the write up ungeheuer.
I am seriously considering this mod. The other day my attempt to honk an unattended driver at the light (it's turned green for a good 5 sec) was unsuccessful. The stock horn sounds like I've squeezed a clown nose in the middle of traffic. I was like what the...   ??? That's it?! I can barely hear it myself


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: CCEMN1 on February 19, 2010, 08:24:35 AM
Anyone done this on an S4RS? Just curious, as I'm about to perform the same task on my bike.


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DesmoReynoso on February 19, 2010, 10:46:59 PM
Great Write up!! I installed mine on the same spot as you although with a little differences from your install (left relay where old horn used to attach). How do you like the steblus? I love it!! It makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE.... Id highly recommend this mod to everyone as one of the cheapest, easiest and safest mod you can do to any bike. This after almost being run over by a guy backing up looking straight at me as I'm honking the stock horn at him.... Not anymore.....


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on February 21, 2010, 06:21:07 PM
Great Write up!! I installed mine on the same spot as you although with a little differences from your install (left relay where old horn used to attach). How do you like the steblus?.....
Thanks man  ;D.  I really like the Stebel Nautilus.  Bit of a PITA to install but makes a great noise  :o.  Unfortunately mine is still attached to my M696 and I am no longer attached to it.   Gotta find a hidden (as if  [laugh] [laugh]) spot on my M1100 to fit another one.  Or maybe I'll wimp out and go for second best with one of these >> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/High-Power-Magnum-500Hz-Single-Electric-Stebel-Horn-12v_W0QQitemZ350315832883QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5190736633 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/High-Power-Magnum-500Hz-Single-Electric-Stebel-Horn-12v_W0QQitemZ350315832883QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5190736633)  Not quite so loud, but much less hassle to install, no relay being required...


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: 696DCRider on February 24, 2010, 12:29:35 PM
I just found this write-up.  I actually had noticed you installed a stebel on ducatimonster.org, and I messaged you before noticing this.  Since I have one sitting around from my SV, and now I have your write-up, I will definitely be adding this to the near term modding list that I need to complete before riding season rolls around again.  Thanks a lot!


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on February 25, 2010, 01:10:37 AM
....I actually had noticed you installed a stebel on ducatimonster.org, and I messaged you before noticing this.....
Aaaaaargh..... my filthy past is catching up with me  :o  ....

Dont speak of that place in these hallowed environs.  

I dont go there anymore, so I'm sorry that you never got any reply to your message.

Oh the shame.....  :-[


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: hihhs on February 25, 2010, 03:38:27 AM
Ungeheuer-

Did you ever find a good spot for a Stebel on your M1100?


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: 696DCRider on February 25, 2010, 05:34:48 AM
Yeah, that was the first site I started looking at for info, but I've noticed that there's a lot more useful information on this site. Hopefully I can get that horn installed before summer time.  In DC, the pedestrians like to jaywalk across the street in front of my bike (probably because they see it's not as big as a car, idiots!).  So, the stebel comes in handy for that as well as the idiot drivers.  I'm sure as soon as I get that installed along with some unbaffled aftermarket pipes, I will scare them nicely back onto the sidewalks,  ;D

Aaaaaargh..... my filthy past is catching up with me  :o  ....

Dont speak of that place in these hallowed environs.  

I dont go there anymore, so I'm sorry that you never got any reply to your message.

Oh the shame.....  :-[


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: CCEMN1 on February 25, 2010, 09:29:38 AM
Not sure if you mean me? Mine was an S4RS, and yes, found the perfect spot for it:
(http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad309/Buckboard/IMG_1699.jpg)
(http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad309/Buckboard/IMG_1694.jpg)


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on February 25, 2010, 05:19:19 PM
Ungeheuer- Did you ever find a good spot for a Stebel on your M1100?
Not yet.  For as beautiful as it sounds, its gruesome to behold.  So until I can find an out-of-sight spot, it wont be happening.


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: 696DCRider on February 25, 2010, 05:27:50 PM
Have you guys had any battery drainage issues related to the stebel?  When I had it on my SV, I think it caused the battery to drain faster.  I had other electrical issues too though.  BTW, I don't use a battery tender currently.  I keep the bike in a parking garage, and I don't have access to a plug.  I'm sure keeping it on a tender would keep it charged even if it did drain it, but since ducati had to make it so damn difficult to access it, I'm not going to bother. 


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on February 25, 2010, 09:12:45 PM
Have you guys had any battery drainage issues related to the stebel? 
Nope.  Unless you're riding around Cairo how often is it drawing any current?


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: 696DCRider on February 26, 2010, 08:40:05 AM
Yeah, you're right.  I guess it was just electrical problems with the SV.  It got to a point where when I hit the horn, my headlight and dash dim.  I suppose I won't have those kind of issues with this bike though unless I wire it improperly.


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DesmoReynoso on February 28, 2010, 10:54:29 PM
Have you guys had any battery drainage issues related to the stebel?  When I had it on my SV, I think it caused the battery to drain faster.  I had other electrical issues too though.  BTW, I don't use a battery tender currently.  I keep the bike in a parking garage, and I don't have access to a plug.  I'm sure keeping it on a tender would keep it charged even if it did drain it, but since ducati had to make it so damn difficult to access it, I'm not going to bother. 

That was one of the first things I checked and it does draw a big chunk current, but I havent had any problems with it drainning my battery to the point where I cant start the bike up or have the headlight and dash dim when I use it. One quick way to see the effect of it is to have the bike turned ON but not running then going to the menu for the battery voltage on the dash and it should be at 13.9 or 13.7 (around there) then press the horn for a moment and youll see it go down to 13.6 do it again 13.5 and so on....... Probably not the best horn for a bike that has an  alarm system which uses the bike's horn as the alarm, but other than that the battery should be fine if you go on a ride.


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: 696DCRider on March 02, 2010, 01:05:38 PM
Awesome.  I will try that out.  Thanks a lot for the info.


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiTorrey on March 04, 2010, 05:20:06 AM
I am interested in doing a Stebel horn, a vizi tech rear light modulator, and a wiring harness for my cell phone from powerlet, any ideas on not drainging my battery? oh and maybe an alarm


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: Raux on March 04, 2010, 05:49:00 AM
I am interested in doing a Stebel horn, a vizi tech rear light modulator, and a wiring harness for my cell phone from powerlet, any ideas on not drainging my battery? oh and maybe an alarm

damn add a partridge and you got the twelve days of Christmas on that thing


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiTorrey on March 04, 2010, 05:52:08 AM
i know! i might nix the modulator, but i do want the stebel and the harness to charge my phone on long rides. the alarm might be overkill too. they make a harness that allows you to hook up lots of things like that, not sure its worth it...


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: Raux on March 04, 2010, 05:55:05 AM
i know! i might nix the modulator, but i do want the stebel and the harness to charge my phone on long rides. the alarm might be overkill too. they make a harness that allows you to hook up lots of things like that, not sure its worth it...

i would go, horn, alarm
charge the phone before you leave.
not sure about the light about legal and does it really work


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiTorrey on March 04, 2010, 08:19:02 AM
yeah good point, i do go on long trips though, we'll see

the modulator is supposed to work yeah, it strobes your tail light when you break to make you more visible. vizi tech is the company. youtube has some videos of monsters with them


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: 696DCRider on March 04, 2010, 12:36:06 PM
Does the modulator really use that much battery power?  I don't really see it using anymore than the regular light, but I'm just guessing


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiTorrey on March 04, 2010, 02:33:02 PM
Does the modulator really use that much battery power?  I don't really see it using anymore than the regular light, but I'm just guessing

exactly, and when are all these things going to be used at the same time. maybe an alarm with the stebel going off. (that'll teach em!)


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on March 05, 2010, 02:00:01 AM
I am interested in doing a Stebel horn, a vizi tech rear light modulator, and a wiring harness for my cell phone from powerlet, any ideas on not drainging my battery? oh and maybe an alarm
Draining the battery....  If you're parked with the motor not running whilst continually sounding your Stebel (you masochist, you), with your foot on the brake pedal and your phone drawing charge then you might drain the battery eventually.  But.... if you're on the move I'm sure that you'll be recharging quicker than you draw power even if you honked continuously whilst braking during protracted phone calls to Zimbabwe  ;D


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiTorrey on March 05, 2010, 04:42:40 AM
Draining the battery....  If you're parked with the motor not running whilst continually sounding your Stebel (you masochist, you), with your foot on the brake pedal and your phone drawing charge then you might drain the battery eventually.  But.... if you're on the move I'm sure that you'll be recharging quicker than you draw power even if you honked continuously whilst braking during protracted phone calls to Zimbabwe  ;D


have you been spying on me?


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: 696DCRider on March 05, 2010, 06:50:06 AM
I like to keep my finger on the horn while riding.  It's a safety thing...everyone can hear you coming ;)    [moto]


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on March 07, 2010, 02:19:34 AM
I like to keep my finger on the horn while riding.  It's a safety thing...everyone can hear you coming ;)    [moto]
Or you could try Termis, Db killers removed.  Draws no battery power at all  ;D.


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: Raux on March 07, 2010, 02:22:38 AM
Or you could try Termis, Db killers removed.  Draws no battery power at all  ;D.
in fact adds power


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiTorrey on March 07, 2010, 04:19:15 AM
what if you already have that, and want more


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiTorrey on March 19, 2010, 05:09:32 AM
did your stebel come with a wiring harness? this is the cheapest i could find it
http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=2587095# (http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=2587095#)

doesn't appear to have a harness. do i just use the stock wiring?

TIA

EDIT: Also just noticed they have some new horns. The Nautilus comes in all black now too

http://www.stebel.it/stebel2009/default.asp?menu=news (http://www.stebel.it/stebel2009/default.asp?menu=news)
(http://www.stebel.it/public/tm80magumMoto1-2.jpg)


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on March 22, 2010, 06:16:46 PM
Nope, no wiring harness.  Its really not that complicated though (I just make it look like it is....  [laugh]).

BTW that funky red Stebel you have there isn't an air horn like the Nautilus, but its probably almost as loud....


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiTorrey on March 23, 2010, 03:28:56 AM
ok good call, i checked out the sound clip on their site, i like the tone, just curious how big or small it is.

So, the nautilus uses the stock wiring? good to know.


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: CCEMN1 on March 23, 2010, 01:39:26 PM
Here's a size reference on my S4RS:
(http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad309/Buckboard/IMG_1694.jpg)
Not a whole lot larger than the OEM I removed from the same location.


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on March 27, 2010, 04:01:51 AM
So, the nautilus uses the stock wiring?.....
...Um... nope.   You supply your own wiring.

.....Not a whole lot larger than the OEM I removed from the same location.
A Stebel Nautilus is "not a whole lot larger than the OEM" ???.  Are you serious?  Thats like saying a Hummer is not a whole lot larger than a Mini.  


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: Wonked on May 16, 2010, 09:22:58 AM
Just did this mod to my 695. Took awhile, but that horn will take your breath away. Great mod. Mounted it according to OP's method (though, the battery access is much easier on the 695).

Recommend installing with supplied relay.


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on April 08, 2011, 05:27:39 AM
Ungeheuer-

Did you ever find a good spot for a Stebel on your M1100?
Yup.  A Stebel Nautilus lives in the vast space where the airbox now isnt. 


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiTorrey on April 22, 2011, 04:45:19 PM
stebel in my mailbox = check
wiring from ace hardware = check
connectors and relay = check
fuse and fuse holder = ummmmm

what do i do?  im doing the install sans the kit, all on my own, where can i get a hopefully black fuse box for one fuse?


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiTorrey on April 23, 2011, 12:06:27 PM
question, without spending $20 on a multimeter, how do i know which original horn wire is positive and which is negative? ones purple, ones black. one comes from + battery terminal, one goes to horn button.

if i had to guess, purple is +...

thanks


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: DucatiTorrey on April 23, 2011, 12:20:39 PM
ok so just checked out the bikes wiring diagram

the two wires from the horn are labeled BK and V

black and violet?

black goes to what seems to be ground, everything else has the same one.

V (violet?) goes up to the button.

i think i got it.

thanks


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: ungeheuer on April 25, 2011, 01:55:06 AM
ok so just checked out the bikes wiring diagram

the two wires from the horn are labeled BK and V

black and violet?

black goes to what seems to be ground, everything else has the same one.

V (violet?) goes up to the button.

i think i got it.

thanks
Sorry mate, I havent been keeping a close eye on this thread.  But yup, it sounds like you do got it  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: How to shoe-horn a Stebel Nautilus into M696
Post by: theprocess on June 09, 2012, 06:51:04 PM
Bump for an awesome tutorial...wiring diagram is a gem.  Thanks op! [thumbsup]


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