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that's right... here it comes!

schedule (left coast time):

Friday, 10 April 2009
125 FP1   10:30 - 11:10
250 FP1   11:30 - 12:15
MotoGP FP1   12:30 - 13:15

Saturday, 11 April 2009
125 FP2   08:05 - 08:45
MotoGP FP2   09:05 - 09:50
250 FP2   10:05 - 10:50
125 QP   12:05 - 12:45
MotoGP QP   13:05 - 13:50

Sunday, 12 April 2009
250 QP   (Sat) 14:05 - 14:50
125 WUP   (Sun) 08:00 - 08:20
250 WUP   08:30 - 08:50
MotoGP WUP   09:00 - 09:20
125 RAC   10:00
250 RAC   11:15
MotoGP RAC   13:00

Finally!   [clap]

yeah, wtf is it by now, August?

im super stoked  [moto]

just need to pull out my nicky shirt and do my nipple dance and watch some spankinf going on  8)

WTF - 10pm Eastern Time on Speed.  They must have something on that really important during prime time  [bang]

mitt

Yeah... its the running of the Bulls.  Very important.  I'm sure the ratings will be spectacular.

AMA's on this weekend?

 [roll]

I rechecked the tv listings and its Bull Run actually.... but either way it sucks they have moved 250 and GP back so late.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/143379/1/motogp_back_on_british_eurosport.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/143379/1/motogp_back_on_british_eurosport.html)

Damn I am ready for some good racing this season...

MotoGP FP1

Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Motorcycle Lap time Km/h Gap
1 27 Casey STONER AUS Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'57.053 328.967 
2 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'57.439 327.471 0.386
3 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1'57.835 322.677 0.782
4 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'58.272 326.579 1.219
5 15 Alex DE ANGELIS RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'58.452 326.975 1.399
6 65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'58.468 323.643 1.415
7 36 Mika KALLIO FIN Pramac Racing Ducati 1'58.499 328.367 1.446
8 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'58.506 325.693 1.453
9 33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Hayate Racing Team Kawasaki 1'58.757 324.812 1.704
10 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 1'58.771 321.332 1.718
11 52 James TOSELAND GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1'58.850 320.000 1.797
12 24 Toni ELIAS SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'59.094 327.471 2.041
13 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'59.158 324.519 2.105
14 7 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'59.348 316.437 2.295
15 72 Yuki TAKAHASHI JPN Scot Racing Team MotoGP Honda 1'59.437 319.621 2.384
16 59 Sete GIBERNAU SPA Grupo Francisco Hernando Ducati 2'00.595 323.547 3.542
17 88 Niccolo CANEPA ITA Pramac Racing Ducati 2'00.597 317.927 3.544
18 3 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 2'01.435 326.876 4.382

9 33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Hayate Racing Team Kawasaki 1'58.757 324.812 1.704

I am impressed! Good job Marco!

MotoGP FP2

Pos.    Num.    Rider    Nation    Team    Motorcycle    Lap time    Km/h    Gap
1    27    Casey STONER    AUS    Ducati Marlboro Team    Ducati    1'56.310    330.679    
2    46    Valentino ROSSI    ITA    Fiat Yamaha Team    Yamaha    1'56.406    330.679    0.096
3    65    Loris CAPIROSSI    ITA    Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    Suzuki    1'56.598    328.767    0.288
4    99    Jorge LORENZO    SPA    Fiat Yamaha Team    Yamaha    1'56.649    329.268    0.339
5    33    Marco MELANDRI    ITA    Hayate Racing Team    Kawasaki    1'57.135    326.777    0.825
6    4    Andrea DOVIZIOSO    ITA    Repsol Honda Team    Honda    1'57.290    328.667    0.980
7    7    Chris VERMEULEN    AUS    Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    Suzuki    1'57.576    323.741    1.266
8    5    Colin EDWARDS    USA    Monster Yamaha Tech 3    Yamaha    1'57.714    326.579    1.404
9    14    Randy DE PUNIET    FRA    LCR Honda MotoGP    Honda    1'57.971    323.159    1.661
10    52    James TOSELAND    GBR    Monster Yamaha Tech 3    Yamaha    1'58.125    323.159    1.815
11    15    Alex DE ANGELIS    RSM    San Carlo Honda Gresini    Honda    1'58.152    327.669    1.842
12    3    Dani PEDROSA    SPA    Repsol Honda Team    Honda    1'58.349    330.983    2.039
13    36    Mika KALLIO    FIN    Pramac Racing    Ducati    1'58.361    331.491    2.051
14    24    Toni ELIAS    SPA    San Carlo Honda Gresini    Honda    1'58.618    329.268    2.308
15    69    Nicky HAYDEN    USA    Ducati Marlboro Team    Ducati    1'59.226    328.567    2.916
16    72    Yuki TAKAHASHI    JPN    Scot Racing Team MotoGP    Honda    1'59.340    324.032    3.030
17    88    Niccolo CANEPA    ITA    Pramac Racing    Ducati    1'59.564    323.063    3.254
18    59    Sete GIBERNAU    SPA    Grupo Francisco Hernando    Ducati    2'00.256    324.714    3.946

wazzzup with Nicky?   thats waaaay off the pace

dayumn marco

nicky: 'mechanical gremlins'

It's early, but Jebus, Nicky  :'(

it's kinda hard to lay down competitive times when your bike goes boom and won't move under it's own power.

http://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistics/2009/QAT/motogp/QP (http://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistics/2009/QAT/motogp/QP)

nicky 16th on the grid w/ a MAJOR highside at the end of the session resulting in a visit to the medical center.

1.  Casey Stoner      Ducati    1m55.286s
 2.  Valentino Rossi   Yamaha    1m55.759s  + 0.473s
 3.  Jorge Lorenzo     Yamaha    1m55.783s  + 0.497s
 4.  Andrea Dovizioso  Honda     1m55.977s  + 0.691s
 5.  Loris Capirossi   Suzuki    1m56.149s  + 0.863s
 6.  Colin Edwards     Yamaha    1m56.194s  + 0.908s
 7.  Randy de Puniet   Honda     1m56.358s  + 1.072s
 8.  Chris Vermeulen   Suzuki    1m56.493s  + 1.207s
 9.  Alex de Angelis   Honda     1m56.790s  + 1.504s
10.  Mika Kallio       Ducati    1m56.852s  + 1.566s
11.  Marco Melandri    Kawasaki  1m56.962s  + 1.676s
12.  Toni Elias        Honda     1m57.225s  + 1.939s
13.  James Toseland    Yamaha    1m57.510s  + 2.224s
14.  Dani Pedrosa      Honda     1m57.729s  + 2.443s
15.  Sete Gibernau     Ducati    1m57.899s  + 2.613s
16.  Nicky Hayden      Ducati    1m58.215s  + 2.929s
17.  Yuki Takahashi    Honda     1m58.784s  + 3.498s
18.  Niccolo Canepa    Ducati    1m58.999s  + 3.713s

You have to tip your hat to Melandri, in the second free practice 5th, unreal, I really hope he can do something with that Kwaka in the race. Just stay behind the little Aussie
Don

for anybody that missed nicky's highside, it looked something like this:

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/59957-2/qatar_hayden_crash_qp_09.jpg)

since when is IZ a staff motogp photog?

 [laugh]    spot on.

mitt

 >:(

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/Hayden+doubtful+for+Ducati+race+debut (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/Hayden+doubtful+for+Ducati+race+debut)

That was a nasty highside.

It brings up the question of how is Nicky supposed to trust the electronics after that?

It's not supposed to happen.

I saw that, ouch!!!

125gp race redflagged due to ran...

nicky back on track in the morning, uh, evening warmup:

http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/145257/1/nicky_hayden_back_on_track_at_qatar.html (http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/145257/1/nicky_hayden_back_on_track_at_qatar.html)

looks like the 250 race has just been delayed and shortened due to the rain.

it'll be interesting to see if they also shorten the motogp race especially given the comments (http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/145223/1/rossi_predicts_entertaining_last_laps.html) rossi has made about the tires.

motogp race cancelled for today due to rain, possibly postponed until monday.

Rossi calls for end to night racing
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74438 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74438)

motogp race to be run monday at 9p local time (11a left coast time):

http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/145269/1/qatar_motogp_to_be_re-run_on_monday.html (http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/145269/1/qatar_motogp_to_be_re-run_on_monday.html)

yeah, but his statement doesn't take into consideration the significantly hotter temperatures during the day which, if i remember correctly, was one of the reasons for the night race proposal.

Anyone see when tv coverage will be??

set up a little picnic in the living room; beer, pretzels, & peanuts
cue up the dvr and the front row of the grid is all wrong  :-\
what the hell did i miss  ???

then i realize it's the last race from '08  [laugh]


speed had it scheduled to rebroadcast the race 2pm on tuesday...
we all know they won't cancel pinks  [roll]

The sky in Dubai

(http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/speedql/IMG_7992.jpg)


Qatar
Monday is supposed to be hazy and a balmy 91F.  101F by Thurs. Low 74F.
I wondered why there were so many fans sitting there in the driving rain at midnight in Qatar.

for the life of me, i thought the commentators were stupid for continuously referring to lorenzo's race as his "first motogp race"

i got 1/3 of the way through the race before i figured it out... yeah, i'm smart.

Yeah. No kidding. My wife & I were going out for Easter dinner and the race was being recorded. I kept saying something's wrong. They kept refering to "World Champ Casey Stoner" & Stoner had #1 on his bike. I was like WTF? This is last years race. Then I noticed the announcement stream at the bottom of the screen. Oh well.

MotoGP Warm Up 2 Classification PDF
Pos.    Num.    Rider    Nation    Team    Motorcycle    Lap time    Km/h    Gap
1    27    Casey STONER    AUS    Ducati Marlboro Team    Ducati    1'56.025    329.368    
2    46    Valentino ROSSI    ITA    Fiat Yamaha Team    Yamaha    1'56.498    326.777    0.473
3    4    Andrea DOVIZIOSO    ITA    Repsol Honda Team    Honda    1'56.698    324.226    0.673
4    99    Jorge LORENZO    SPA    Fiat Yamaha Team    Yamaha    1'56.744    325.301    0.719
5    65    Loris CAPIROSSI    ITA    Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    Suzuki    1'56.827    323.256    0.802
6    5    Colin EDWARDS    USA    Monster Yamaha Tech 3    Yamaha    1'57.485    323.450    1.460
7    3    Dani PEDROSA    SPA    Repsol Honda Team    Honda    1'57.735    329.972    1.710
8    7    Chris VERMEULEN    AUS    Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    Suzuki    1'57.741    319.243    1.716
9    14    Randy DE PUNIET    FRA    LCR Honda MotoGP    Honda    1'57.834    316.994    1.809
10    24    Toni ELIAS    SPA    San Carlo Honda Gresini    Honda    1'57.985    327.868    1.960
11    36    Mika KALLIO    FIN    Pramac Racing    Ducati    1'58.007    330.073    1.982
12    33    Marco MELANDRI    ITA    Hayate Racing Team    Kawasaki    1'58.119    326.185    2.094
13    15    Alex DE ANGELIS    RSM    San Carlo Honda Gresini    Honda    1'58.252    325.791    2.227
14    59    Sete GIBERNAU    SPA    Grupo Francisco Hernando    Ducati    1'58.278    325.890    2.253
15    69    Nicky HAYDEN    USA    Ducati Marlboro Team    Ducati    1'58.559    323.935    2.534
16    72    Yuki TAKAHASHI    JPN    Scot Racing Team MotoGP    Honda    1'58.597    320.284    2.572
17    52    James TOSELAND    GBR    Monster Yamaha Tech 3    Yamaha    1'58.905    321.811    2.880
18    88    Niccolo CANEPA    ITA    Pramac Racing    Ducati    1'59.705    321.620    3.680

ah man im totally rooting for nicky....but behind sete...

i know he wont be up to par for the race, but i still got the faith....

 8)

race is starting NOW!

 [clap]   [clap]   [clap]  Stoner

From the live timing last few laps, looks like it wasn't much of a race (at least at the end).

mitt

Stoner draws first blood...7.7 seconds ahead of Rossi.

+1  [thumbsup]

I was watching the live timing on Motogp.com, looks like Casey was pulling away

did anyone think Qatar wasn't going to go exactly like that?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74453 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74453)

Rossi was gaining on Stoner for a bit, but just couldn't keep up that pace and figured 2nd was good enough.

The robot was getting his fairings/hand bashed by de angelis on a pretty rough pass, I dislike the robot, but I was amazed how well he managed to hang on. Though I was bummed Nicky didn't pip him at the end :(

yeh Rossi and his fans

This Rossi fan thought the race ended exactly how it was going to. Losail definitely favors the faster trap speed over the more technical riders. Not demeaning Stoner's win because 7 second margins on any track on race day is damn impressive. Just saying that if the track was tighter and more technical, things would have been much closer if not different.

on that track (i meant)?  nah.

http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Apr/090413z69.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Apr/090413z69.htm)

http://superbikeplanet.com/newind.htm/: (http://superbikeplanet.com/newind.htm/:)  Qatar Quote Machine: Suzuki Vindicated In Not Hiring Spies. Oh, Wait, Did We Say Vindicated or Exposed As Idio ...
 

[laugh]

Ive always liked Hayden but after reading that article I like him even more .There is something refreshing about a someone that take responsibility for the stuff up and not someone or something around them. That and from what I read he is a really hard worker.

i wonder if they added up all laps run by all riders in the last several years if anyone has had as much saddle time as nicky.

Interesting race.

Man, DeAngelis put a lick on Pedrosa, surprised he stayed on.

BBC had reported the contact between DeAngelis and Pedrobot was under 'scrutineering'.

Anyone hear anything more about any repercussions besides the midget is all offended?    http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/Pedrosa+slams+De+Angelis (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/Pedrosa+slams+De+Angelis)

It really didn't look like a typical spot to highside to me...but I'm scared of highsiding. ;)

I never thought you couldn't crash one with electronics.

Looked like Pedrosa spun his tire and lost the drive coming off the corner, and DeAngelis had a run going on him.
Racing incident as far as I saw it.

It sucks that there was contact, the 'bot being hurt and all, but I don't think DeAngelis meant to do it.

yeah steve parish the bbc comentator said that too and they showed you the replay from lots of angles and it looks like he had no drive out of the corner. de nagelis wasnt expecting him to still be there when he got there.

from motogp.com
Pedrosa was enraged by the incident and although De Angelis was asked to give an explanation to officials after the race he was not sanctioned.

Yeah, at that level of racing you can't park the thing at an apex like that and expect nothing to happen. IMO it just shows what a spoiled little be-artch Pedrosa is that he complained afterwards. The guy really has no redeeming features.

Does anyone know why Edwards and Toseland are mad at each other again?

You mean still?

Oh, still the crew chief thing?

Yeah...

at least that was the impression I got from the interviews with them over the weekend.

I also got the feeling that the team owner is pretty concerned about Toselands' lack of performance.

Cue Spies? :-\

Pedrosa VS Hayden Estoril MotoGP2006 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLeqIAUIG0#lq-hq-vhq)

(http://tsfiles.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/pot-kettle-black.jpg)

(http://www.hdtalking.com/attachments/buell/2622d1238020338-buell_wins_a_double_at_fontana-repsol.jpg)

Replay on SPEED right now.

in case anyone wants to make a poster.

Looked like Pedrobot was going backwards to me.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3344/3441872377_0d44e42e10.jpg?v=0)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3310/3441872663_5e907e32f5.jpg?v=0)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3583/3441873635_8ed503d92e.jpg?v=0)

Yes - those pics show a huge speed differential between the 2 bikes.

mitt

"did you mean to hit him?"

"hell no!  what was he doing anyway, coffee break?"

"ok, you can go."

 [laugh] !

Look at Pedro's back wheel -> in the air
You can see the shadow doesn't meet the tire. 

I thought Pedrosa handled it well on the track.....he banged his clipon back in to place and kept racing.  Eurosport commentators correctly pointed out that DeAngelis lifted the front wheel on exit causing him to drift wide b/c he was trying hard to take advantage of Dani giving way too much room to Vermulen during the pass.

Total racing incident.

Toseland is toast!  He is cracking under the pressure.  I watched the pre-race interviews on BBC, and he came across as very shifty and nervous.  He contradicted himself in the span of 2 min. saying initially it was not his decision to "nick" Edwards' crew chief, but later admitted he knew his job was in jeopardy this year and needed to make changes to improve his chances.

The guy just looked like he was scheming during the whole interview.  I do not trust him!

The GP9 Desmosidici is looking the goods, It's so much smoother, Last year you could see the bike coming off the turns was bucking and kicking, this year you could watch Stoner roll on the power and most of the time it would shoot out of the the turn, even if it had a little wobble as the the tyres started going off, it was still a much smoother run compared to last year.
It's good to hear Stoner is feeling very happy with the bike, it's smoother and easier to ride on the ragged edge.

I think he could have another good year, I know 1 race does not make a championship year, but Ducati is happy with the new bike, Stoner is happy with the new bike, Nicky is happy with the bike, could be a very Interesting year.

More for steve parish.
The ducati is still an absolute pregnant dog of a bike that doesn't work for anybody but casey.

guess that stoner guy has some s-k-ills on the bike.

[laugh]

where did you get that idea?!

+1  lol.  I don't think Nicky is terribly happy with his situation right now.  He has a crew that speaks little to no English, a new bike that he hasn't figured out how to ride ( just like everyone else but Stoner ) and just got tossed down on the ground doing 130mph.  At least the only place to go is up!

Man, those guys were so boring and unhappy-lookin' in the post-race interviews.  WTF?  It's the opening race of the MotoGP season and you're on the podium.  Pretend like you like your job and that racing is fun.  Ya douchebags. 

small correction: WAY UP INTO THE AIR and then down on the ground for about 150ft @ 130mph.  i would not say he's in love with the bike so far. 

I hate agreeing with you, but I totally agree. 



Reading into it :

Vale:  shitting himself, pretending to be proud of first looser position almost 8 seconds back tires were made for Casey after Bridgestone worked with Ducati for years and years
Jorge: shitting himself, realizign 3rd place is a KILOMETER BACK
Casey: shitting himself with few friends, having won it, crashed it, lost it, climbed back and won a piece... praying, head bowed eyes closed during the national anthem, "hang on to it, hang on to it fk shit fk sht fk shit fk sht..."
Casey needs to market himself better with a little fun. Vale is fun no matter what happens. Everyone loves him for it.

There's no such thing as first looser. Maybe first loser, but not first looser ;D

Qatar was made for the Desmosedici. It's a bit ironic, since Qatar seems made for the inline 4's in WSBK while the 1098 F09 struggles a bit there. Casey's dominated this race 3 years running, so the results are no surprise. We'll see how he goes at Motegi.

what tires did rossi win the championship on last year?


not so ironic, one is a twin and the other is a 4cyl.


yup... and i don't think rossi is worried about round 1.

The tires that went out from under Stoner in 2 races ;D

ironic?  the GP bike is a 4 cylinder...

Reading into it :

 tires were made for Casey after Bridgestone worked with Ducati for years and years
Please tell me you are not suggesting that its the tyre's that gave Stoner the win, or is it the bike, surely it couldn't be that he has skill >:(
When Vale was riding for Michilan they would make a special (one off tyre) over night, fly it to the track by race morning and nothing was ever said about that WTF.
Casey: shitting himself with few friends, having won it, crashed it, lost it, climbed back and won a piece... praying, head bowed eyes closed during the national anthem, "hang on to it, hang on to it fk shit fk sht fk shit fk sht..."
Casey needs to market himself better with a little fun. Vale is fun no matter what happens. Everyone loves him for it.

Stoner is a racer not a popstar.
For every super hero (Vale) you have to have a villan (Stoner), the press and the public can get F#%ked, the little Aussie is taking it to Vale and some people are just not happy unless Vale wins.
Don

I know...it was more of a comment on Ducati ruling that track in GP and sucking wind there in WSBK. Of course, second place in both races ain't bad...

Stoner gets along with that track very well.  The first time he saw it in 2006 he put his Honda on pole.

i'm a fan of them both.. and that's ^^ kinda silly.  sure, no one is the showman that valentino is.  but casey is generally a nice guy and good with the press.  there were a couple key moments last year i thought he could have handled better, but he's no... villain (http://images.businessweek.com/ss/05/07/motogp/image/biaggi___umbrella_girl.jpg).

i know you understand this but you're still making an apples and oranges comparison  :)

He's even got the evil twin goatee...
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h212/mkalfus/spock5.jpg)

Isn't Pedroda a much better villian?  Or even Lorenzo (though he is less villanous than I originally thought he'd be)?  Man, Max was the best villan.  I miss the good ole days.

The villan is anyone that challanges Vale (Max, Sete, Stoner), Pedroso isnt in the hunt right now.

NO! I'm not saying I think Casey wins because of the bike, the tires, or any other singular element. At the end of the day, Casey kicks ASS!
I trust it's a team thing, and everything little thing helps, like Ducati chilling the fuel so that more calories fit in the tank, and all the other incredible attention to detail.
I'm guessing it all has to line up in that kind of competition.

Good point that Rossi won on those tires last year.

Comment based on hearing Rossi's prediction that his tires would be cooked by 7-laps-to-go and that the Duc was not as hard on the tires.
That's when Stoner gained most of his massive lead. Also about when Stoner said he turned off the fuel regulation.

I thought that was against the rules in MotoGP?

Commentary was made that the regulations are 15 degrees max chill below ambient temp. There is, they say on Eurosport, freezers in the back of the garage where they keep the tanks. Ducati was the only one who read the book and started doing that. Now it's common supposedly.
I heard pre-regulation SBK, Ducati had chilled fuel so much that riders would go out with a layer of ice on the tank like it was a can of frozed OJ.  [laugh]

I didn't see where Rossi said the Duc would be fine on tires... but the comment about the tires being cooked wasn't just from Rossi.  The other races had the same issue and it was due to the track being dirty more than anything.  The dirty track was very abrasive on everyone's tires, including Stoner.  Rossi had to push extremely hard to take back ground on Stoner mid-race, and therefore ragged his front all to heck and had to eventually back off to avoid crashing and take his 20 pts.

It's ok to be a villain(stoner) as long as the villain keeps winning...then maybe the naysayers will start to like him.Being a hero(vale) is great,but i'm sure he is envious of Mr.Stoner right now.

Its still hard to be a hero if you don't endear yourself to the masses.  Win or not.  That's why Rossi's army is so big.  I like Stoner's ability, but I don't like the person.  He's kind of like Pedrobot in that respect to me.

...because he won a race?  one that everyone, probably including valentino, expected him to win?

didn't valentino win the championship last year with races to spare?

and besides wherever it was that his video thingy fell off the bike last year (Le Mans?), his front tire frustrations in the middle of the season, and then the complete schooling he got at Laguna, when in the world was stoner so nancy whiner?  he embarrassed himself after laguna, but then kinda retracted that crap and made up for it.

he made a lot more noise in 2007, just wanting credit for what he was doing. 


i don't get all this villain stuff.  you guys need to go back and watch the '02-'05 seasons. 

Stoner's too noble Ausi-apple pie for the Villon roll.
I'm just glad they're all there. Imagine the season without Vale, or Stoner, or the Sthpaniards... It would be so boring.

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Those are great pics!!!