Cause you can go to jail. Not me, but a guy that was meeting up with us for a group ride [bang]
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Or, why not to stop after punching off the mirrors of the car that cut you off.
Question is
Should you punch off their mirrors because they obviously do not use them when they cut you off?
or
Should you NOT punch off their mirrors because maybe they need them and need to learn how to use them.
I say , their car didn't do anything to you, leave the car alone.....punch the driver.
no no no...just kidding, just kidding.............um.....yeah just kidding
True story. About 5 months ago, I'm going to work, 5:45 am, I travel 4 miles down a perfectly straight 2 lane road that illegal alien farm workers use to get to the fields. I'm on the CBR900RR about 50 ft back of a car, as we come up to a dirt road coming up to the road I'm on, a VW Jetta, obviously beater field car is coming up at the same time as me and the car in front of me. I know what he is going to do (by the way, I always ride with my highbeam on when the sun is coming up), he looks right at me and pulls out behind the car in front of me, and we are doing 50-60 mph. I saw it coming, and moved over to go around, when he moves over on me and comes up to and across the center line, which pissed me off. He tried to block me, not once, but twice. I've noticed these 5 foot nothing little shits drive real bad, and have no respect for motorcycles, I guess they figure we can move out of the way. Well, the second time, I came by real close at about 90 or 100, and punched his drivers mirror clean off. He starts passing cars trying to chase me, so I pull over, and wait for him. He sees me stop, and makes a u-turn and goes the other way. That's the only time I've ever had to do anything like that in 30 something years on the street, I was pissed and ready to fire his ass up. But hey, he has no insurance, no drivers license, no kind of Identification, what are the cops going to do? I'll tell you, in this town, they will do nothing. Agribusiness needs them and lets them do as they please.
wow. props for takin no shit is all i can say.
i was headin down mainst the other day downhill good gap between me and the truck in front of me. doin about the speed limit
lady sees truck go by, waits [forever] and pulls out just in front of me. really pissed bc slamming on the brakes in a cage is annoying, but on a bike its scary. (im 160lbs my suspension set up accordingly and i dive like a mfer when i panic brake)
i gave her the horn and the finger but if someone was being aggressive toward me i would love to punch their mirror clean off. bow to the biker i have no pity for cager who thinks not paying attention to the road is OK (or worse acting aggressive toward riders)
Quote from: corndog67 on April 11, 2009, 08:09:03 PM
True story. About 5 months ago, I'm going to work, 5:45 am, I travel 4 miles down a perfectly straight 2 lane road that illegal alien farm workers use to get to the fields. I'm on the CBR900RR about 50 ft back of a car, as we come up to a dirt road coming up to the road I'm on, a VW Jetta, obviously beater field car is coming up at the same time as me and the car in front of me. I know what he is going to do (by the way, I always ride with my highbeam on when the sun is coming up), he looks right at me and pulls out behind the car in front of me, and we are doing 50-60 mph. I saw it coming, and moved over to go around, when he moves over on me and comes up to and across the center line, which pissed me off. He tried to block me, not once, but twice. I've noticed these 5 foot nothing little shits drive real bad, and have no respect for motorcycles, I guess they figure we can move out of the way. Well, the second time, I came by real close at about 90 or 100, and punched his drivers mirror clean off. He starts passing cars trying to chase me, so I pull over, and wait for him. He sees me stop, and makes a u-turn and goes the other way. That's the only time I've ever had to do anything like that in 30 something years on the street, I was pissed and ready to fire his ass up. But hey, he has no insurance, no drivers license, no kind of Identification, what are the cops going to do? I'll tell you, in this town, they will do nothing. Agribusiness needs them and lets them do as they please.
Appreciate your story but please leave the prejudice out of it. ;) That is one of the things that sets this board apart from others and we'd like it to stay that way. [thumbsup]
Quote from: supakpow2 on April 11, 2009, 08:18:02 PM
Appreciate your story but please leave the prejudice out of it. ;) That is one of the things that sets this board apart from others and we'd like it to stay that way. [thumbsup]
Observations, not prejudice.
because its bad for the expensive gloves...right?
With some cars it might hurt and/or be extremely tough to do! Especially with a closed fist. For example, a 1985 Mercedes-Benz sedan, or other with an extremely solid and overbuilt mirror. That and it's going a bit too far. People carry guns nowadays, and I definitely wouldn't want to get shot when I could just pull over and swear in my helmet for a few minutes while the offensive cagers drove further on down the road. Road rage while seemingly irresistable at times is pointless and irrational and we must remember that. Things can get out of hand in a hurry.
everybody knows you kick mirrors
Quote from: Duki09 on April 11, 2009, 07:54:01 PM
I say , their car didn't do anything to you, leave the car alone.....punch the driver.
Done. Stupid kid didn't think he would have to stop at the light. Kickstand down, walked up to his window... he took off like a bat out of hell, ran a red light, etc. I didn't punch him, but he realized not to F with bikes.
People behind me were clapping and laughing. But I will not do that again, I was lucky... I also can't believe I lost my cool over being cut off and brake checked.
Just remember, if you punch the mirrors off of a car and the driver is carrying and you are dead on the side of the road, your lesson didn't work. [popcorn]
Quote from: silentbob on April 11, 2009, 08:20:50 PM
Observations, not prejudice.
Quote from: BomberHead on April 11, 2009, 10:23:44 PM
+1
My observations.........prejudice. I wasn't a jerk about it but reread his post.
Quote from: corndog67 on April 11, 2009, 08:09:03 PM
2 lane road that illegal alien farm workers use to get to the fields.......I've noticed these 5 foot nothing little shits drive real bad........But hey, he has no insurance, no drivers license, no kind of Identification, what are the cops going to do? I'll tell you, in this town, they will do nothing. Agribusiness needs them and lets them do as they please.
Really? just observation?
I didn't say this wouldn't make me really pissed.......it would, and I don't care for the way the immigration situation in this country stands, but I don't express it in this forum. I lose tens of thousands of dollars of work yearly because of it and have for a decade but this isn't the place for it. I'm not trying to criticize anyone here or be an ass. sorry for expressing my observations.
That guy is going to learn an expenive lesson if the driver presses charges....... A buddy of mine did they same thing on his bicycle. On the way to our Sat. ride, girl in a Volvo doesn't see him & almost kills him, she apologizes while he takes off the mirror. He then procedes to the other side & knocks off the right one & rides off to meet us. A mile into our warmup, a cop pulls us over, a group of 10 of us & 8 are wearing the same team kit & riding the same bike. The officer tells us the story about the road rage & then starts laughing because we all fit the description. Just as he's about to let us go, the other cop tells him to let us hang tight & the victim was on her way over with him. That's when the guity party rolled forward & we rolled away....... I don't know how much it ended up costing him as he never spoke abouit it but I do know he was taken to jail, booked & not released until 9PM that night.
IMHO you should never destroy someone's property like that....... when someone's wronged you either call the cops or ride away...... it's not wise to anger people in 3,500 lb. cages when you're on a bicycle or a motorcycle & if you happen to be riding with a group, you put all of them in danger as well.
I'll get off my soapbox now, gear up & ride home. Chances are I'll get cut-off at least once on the way home but if they don't hit me, I'm not stopping or flipping them off [cheeky]
QuoteI'm not trying to criticize anyone here or be an ass. sorry for expressing my observations.
You're not being an ass and don't be sorry. I tend to agree that Corndog was just relating his observations, but I also think that you were on the right track in keeping us on the right track.
As far as I'm concerned, everyone on the road is trying to kill me with their every action. Since that's my norm anytime someone doesn't screw up is a little bonus.
The bigger question is how do we go about changing the driving culture in this country? Better driver awareness and courtesy would most surely decrease accidents and increase the flow of traffic. I know it's a really tall order but there's a chance.
Quote from: supakpow2 on April 11, 2009, 10:36:43 PM
My observations.........prejudice. I wasn't a jerk about it but reread his post.
Really? just observation?
I didn't say this wouldn't make me really pissed.......it would, and I don't care for the way the immigration situation in this country stands, but I don't express it in this forum. I lose tens of thousands of dollars of work yearly because of it and have for a decade but this isn't the place for it. I'm not trying to criticize anyone here or be an ass. sorry for expressing my observations.
Stop crying.
And for the rest of you that are concerned about guns or criminal charges, stop being pussies. The whole point of violent actions is to cross the line between civil actions and uncivil in an attempt to deter further retard actions from the opposing party. If you disagree with me then you can go report this post to the police, see what they'll do for you.
Let's not get this locked due to racism, politics, and cop talk....
OK? [roll]
Look, some of this is just being silly.
We're all aware that the majority of the time, the idiot in the cage who just cut you off didn't even see you-hence they pulled the idiot move in the first place.
Consider that scenario from the cager perspective. You looked, didn't see anything, pulled out, then some crazed motorcyclist zoomed from out of nowhere and knocked my mirror off! Wtf?!
It should not be news that on a bike, we are invisible to cars. Getting pissed off because they should see us is an exercise in futility.
Anyone who does it to us on purpose is a different matter, but how can you be sure?
OK, I received a PM from someone, maybe a mod (?), maybe I went too far in my description. But, it's a fact, there is a very, very large, illegal, undocumented, unlicensed, uninsured motorist population in this area. We have the highest hit and run level, for the population, in the United States, due to the population mentioned above. Maybe he is 5'2", it doesn't matter, but he came across the line twice, trying to either hit me or block me from passing.
We have 28 guys at the race shop where I work. According to the guys, in the past 4 years or so, 3 of the guys have been in major accidents on that road, 50 mph plus, all with illegal, undocumented, unlicensed, uninsured field workers, all due to them pulling out in front of cars going straight down that road. Does that make me prejudiced? How about when the cops pulled a drivers license/seat belt checkpoint out there, and towed 137 unlicensed, uninsured vehicles in either 6 or 8 hours? Does that make the cops prejudiced? We did have some snivelers in the newspaper crying that it was racial profiling. Now if those were Canadian illegal immigrants, without insurance or a license, would that be racial profiling and prejudice on the cops part?
What makes my post prejudiced, the 5 foot nothin' remark? Most of them are. Calling them little shits? Should I have said little rat bastards instead? I just had an electrician come over and do some wiring. He was Hispanic. Legal. Makes approx. 3 times what I do, no problems. Now if I would have said, I don't think so, no Hispanics in my house, that would have been prejudiced. But I do have a major problem with the illegal aliens here. Of course Agribusiness is making big dollars off of them, so they are of use to them anyway, and it's only going to get worse.
By the way, my wife is from South America.
And that's about all I have to say about that.
Quote from: corndog67 on April 12, 2009, 11:01:50 AM
OK, I received a PM from someone, maybe a mod (?), maybe I went too far in my description. But, it's a fact, there is a very, very large, illegal, undocumented, unlicensed, uninsured motorist population in this area. We have the highest hit and run level, for the population, in the United States, due to the population mentioned above. Maybe he is 5'2", it doesn't matter, but he came across the line twice, trying to either hit me or block me from passing.
We have 28 guys at the race shop where I work. According to the guys, in the past 4 years or so, 3 of the guys have been in major accidents on that road, 50 mph plus, all with illegal, undocumented, unlicensed, uninsured field workers, all due to them pulling out in front of cars going straight down that road. Does that make me prejudiced? How about when the cops pulled a drivers license/seat belt checkpoint out there, and towed 137 unlicensed, uninsured vehicles in either 6 or 8 hours? Does that make the cops prejudiced? We did have some snivelers in the newspaper crying that it was racial profiling. Now if those were Canadian illegal immigrants, without insurance or a license, would that be racial profiling and prejudice on the cops part?
What makes my post prejudiced, the 5 foot nothin' remark? Most of them are. Calling them little shits? Should I have said little rat bastards instead? I just had an electrician come over and do some wiring. He was Hispanic. Legal. Makes approx. 3 times what I do, no problems. Now if I would have said, I don't think so, no Hispanics in my house, that would have been prejudiced. But I do have a major problem with the illegal aliens here. Of course Agribusiness is making big dollars off of them, so they are of use to them anyway, and it's only going to get worse.
By the way, my wife is from South America.
And that's about all I have to say about that.
PM was from me (you can read that in the 'from' line by the way). one public posted warning from an admin and one pm from another obviously wasn't enough.